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Aperture saving layered TIFF files incorrectly from CS5

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Grizzle6 Calculating status...
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Mar 16, 2011 9:01 AM
Hello All--
I've had a problem for some time now.

The short and no so sweet:
I open a RAW file as a TIFF file in CS5 directly from Aperture. I work on the file in CS5, incorporating layer masks, etc. and then save the final version back to aperture as a layered TIFF file. This is where the problem occurs. Aperture corrupts the file upon saving. When I try and view the file in Aperture, it only displays a portion of the image (or one of the masks) and that's it.

Right now, it seems to happen at random. Super frustrating as I never really know when it will or won't occur. Has anyone else experienced this problem? I found an old post here that seemed to note the same issue on a much older version of Aperture (http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=3343863). I'm currently running the latest version of Aperture.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Adam Barker

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  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,830 points)
    Have you done of the the troubleshooting steps outlined in the post you referenced?
    iMac Intel 3.06 GHz 8GB Mem; Macbook5.1 2.4ghz 4GB Mem, Mac OS X (10.6.6), Aperture 3.1.1
  • Jim Calderwood Calculating status...
    Has your image been flattened before saving?
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  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,830 points)
    This has come up a ton in the recent past. Doing a search on +layered files+ brings up a number of possibly relevant hits. This one [Aperture 3 and Photoshop workflow|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=13177423&#13177423] discusses the problems and limitations of Aperture and layered files.Might be of help.
    iMac Intel 3.06 GHz 8GB Mem; Macbook5.1 2.4ghz 4GB Mem, Mac OS X (10.6.6), Aperture 3.1.1
  • DLScreative Level 4 Level 4 (1,595 points)
    First of all, Aperture does not save files. It may not properly display the file that CS5 saved, but it didn't save it.

    When you say you've exported the files and they appear corrupt, do you mean export version or export master. The later will export exactly what CS5 saved.

    If you have extra channels- other than R, G, B and the RGB composite channel- in Photoshop including saved selections (but not including layer masks which only appear in the Channels Panel when the layer is active) it will not display properly in Aperture.

    This goes back to version 1.0. If you need to save a channel, save it as a disabled layer mask. You can easily test to see if this is the problem: Open two images in Photoshop and save a channel in one of them but not the other. See how Aperture handles them.

    DLS
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  • Tony Gay Level 4 Level 4 (1,625 points)
    Adam
    Is there a reason for using tif files over psd's? I would give the psd files a shot as they handle layers, masks and the like much better than tiff's.

    Let us know how you go.

    Tony
    Mac Pro Dual 3GHz Quad Core 12GB RAM, RadeonX1900 512MBVRAM, Dual 23" screens, Mac OS X (10.6.6), http://library.digital-image.com.au
  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,570 points)
    I would give the psd files a shot


    Agree. It is certainly worth running a parallel experiment on TIFF and PSD for the same image and see if one performs well.
    MacBook Pro 13", Mac OS X (10.6.6), 4 G / 500 G internal / 4 TB external / NEC 2490 / ColorMunki Photo / Sony a850
  • riddlywalker Calculating status...

    ...and watch out for these files in staorage- a mac will display the thumbnail for the tiff as the whole file image, but the contents will be whatever the mask was showing- I'm running CS6, and I just ordered a large scale print online- using the recommended tiff file.....you can imagine what has just arrived.

  • dbmoore Calculating status...

    When using Layerers with masks place those layers in a folder above the original image in the layers panel of PS. It helps to then check Chanels for saved masked and delete them it you are wanting to go back to AP  No extra channels other than RGB  can be there for AP

     

    Cheers dbm

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