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benwiggy Level 3 Level 3 (780 points)
I'm getting lots of strange behaviour relating to fonts since updating to 10.6.7. This is all in things that used to work perfectly.
PostScript output causes errors in Distiller (problems in font definitions); and manipulating PDF objects can cause embedded fonts to become .... unembedded.

As I understand it, there were lots of security fixes to font handling in the update, but it seems to have caused loads of trouble.

The developers for an app I use, Imposition Wizard, have confirmed that things aren't working as they are supposed to and have filed bug reports with Apple.

However, as I do a lot of work with PostScript and PDFs, I will have to reinstall the OS to 10.6.6.

iMac 2006 2Ghz, Mac OS X (10.6.7), MacBook 2008
  • 1. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (71,735 points)
    Let Apple know here too:

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

    In general, probably best to not apply OS updates to production machines until you are sure critical apps still work right, and in general also good to always have a bootable clone of your right-working OS on another drive in case something goes wrong with the one you normally use.
  • 2. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    benwiggy Level 3 Level 3 (780 points)
    Well, while you are right, of course, though it's impossible to know how my particular combination of hardware and software (Finale music notation; Distiller; Imposition Wizard) is going to react in the absence of other people doing exactly the same thing.

    I've been applying point upgrades since 10.2 and this is the first one that has stopped me working.

    I've never had to roll back the OS before: but I always think that if you're going to reinstall the OS, best do it fresh rather than a clone that may already have some cruft on it.
  • 3. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (71,735 points)
    it's impossible to know how my particular combination of hardware and software (Finale music notation; Distiller; Imposition Wizard) is going to react in the absence of other people doing exactly the same thing.


    You don't need other people's experience for this, just an extra drive with a partition where you can install an upgrade and test your requirements before moving to it permanently. Lots of people who cannot afford to have OS update problems work this way. Superduper has a "sandbox" feature which makes this really easy.

    I always think that if you're going to reinstall the OS, best do it fresh rather than a clone that may already have some cruft on it.


    Perhaps. The main value of the clone is that you can keep working without losing the time required to reinstall, which could be important for a particular user on a particular day.
  • 4. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    DarkHorse27 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi,

    I updated to 10.6.7 yesterday and during my work load today I noticed problems exporting PDF files under Mac now become unreadable to Window machines, and this for me is a huge problem - I might have to get onto the App Store to see if there's a PDF converter that will work for the meantime.
  • 5. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    SithLord883 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    This is the worst update ever. I have a font unique to our corporate branding (Myriad Pro).

    Cannot convert to PDF from Pages without it looking like a jumbled mess. Plus, I cant even print directly from Pages to our network printer! I get an invalidfont error.

    <Edited by Host>
  • 6. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    benwiggy Level 3 Level 3 (780 points)
    I reinstalled Snow Leopard. It took an hour (over lunch) to reinstall and run the Combo to 10.6.6.

    No further tinkering was required. Unlike previous OS X versions, everything seems to be retained and nothing needed to be copied over from a "Previous System" folder.
  • 7. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    -mcs Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I'm having problems with Myriad Pro (OTF version, all 40 faces), as well. Only difference on this end is that it's in Motion/Final Cut, where it drops letters, haven't noticed anywhere else. The spaces for the letters are there - just not the glyphs themselves.

    Just checked through FontBook - validates OK.

    Going to try a different font (Frutiger), to see if it has the same problem.
  • 8. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    thobie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    DINPro -family (.otf) broke same time with 10.6.7 update I think.

    The problem is with Office 2008/2011 Word - when using the font in document, and Print -> PDF -> Save as pdf... (Quartz PDF) Adobe Acrobat Pro / Reader hangs when opening (Windows or OS X). Same thing sometimes with Preview depending of the document. Only Skim opened files fine.

    If I try to use Adobe PDF creator instead, it hangs while "Rendering document...".

    Font works correctly if used in other programs, and saving PDF.

    Example file (this one works with OS X Preview, but Adobe programs will hang): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2663692/OSX106_7pdf.pdf
  • 9. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    thobie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Myriad Pro -family (OTF) is broken too, it atleast opens, but with errors and lacks letters.

    PDF should say "Myriad Pro": http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2663692/Myriad_Pro.pdf

    Something to do with OTF-fonts?
  • 10. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    -mcs Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Okay - tried with Frutiger, all appeared okay, but haven't gone back to double-check.

    Also tried with Myriad Pro (in a bunch of sizes & weights) in Pages - and one of the sizes (Semibold) defaulted back to Helvetica. Tried in Mellel (another word processor) and it Seemed to print fine... so maybe it's a combo of 10.6.7, Myriad Pro (OTF) and Apple apps
  • 11. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    C42D Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    This is absolutely a major problem here at the office today. Apple, you really screwed us. I have never EVER DOWNgraded my OS until just now, and I have used macs since 1989.

    Simple. Postscript files were not distilling one hour ago under 10.6.7, and now they are under 10.6.4.

    SOLUTION: Re-install the OS that came with your machine and install the 10.6.6 combo here: http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1349

    THIS THREAD IS SOLVED. Thanks for <edited by host> us apple.
  • 12. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (71,735 points)
    I have never EVER DOWNgraded my OS until just now


    Font problems requiring downgrades were a major "feature" of 10.6.0 if I remember right…

    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2154431&start=0&tstart=15
  • 13. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    C42D Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    oh yes I spent days sorting out the mess with Keynote fonts. I still dont even know how I fixed it. Probably luck. Its not like anyone who uses macs places a high value on fonts that work... or anything... or perhaps requires Adobe software to be functional... or anything...

    stop doing bong hits Jobs
  • 14. Re: Font problems after 10.6.7
    -mcs Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Did some further print testing and here's my final results:

    Tried four apps. The two non-Apple applications (MS Word and Mellel) printed fine; the two Apple apps I used (Text Edit and Pages) swapped out different faces for Helvetica while keeping others. While not really insightful to the whole Motion problem I've been having (glyphs not showing, but spacing remaining), I can't help but suspect that the root cause of both behaviors is the same.

    Back to 10.6.6 for us...
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