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Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2005 12:05 AM (in response to jayhawk)I'm having the same problem!
I came here to post about the problem, but thought I'd search the forum first. I'm accessing IMAP accounts, as well -- but they're AOL accounts. I was prepared to blame AOL for this, but since you're not using AOL, that seems to point back to Mail itself as the culprit.
What's interesting is this: If you know how AOL works, you know there's an AOL application that one would typically use to read mail and access all of AOL's features. But when I switched to Mail, a little over a year ago, I stopped using the AOL app. I haven't needed it. However, every time I get an undecoded, "gibberish" message in Mail, if I then log on with the AOL app, I'm able to acces that message just fine!
Sometimes the messages are displayed as "gibberish," but at other times, they're completely blank -- no text, no anything. Then, 100% of the time, I'm able to access those messages with the AOL app.
The problem messages always have attachments: either PDFs, zipped files, or a single image file (JPEG, etc.). When the attachment is a zipped file -- say 5 photos zipped together -- Mail will often display one or two of the images, but not all 5. But not consistently! At other times, Mail will correctly display all 5 images -- and this inconsistent behavior happens even with mail from the same sender!!
Just today, someone sent me five separate messages, sent from the same e-mail address, each containing five, zipped images. In two of the messages, Mail displayed all 5 images properly. In another two messages, Mail only displayed 2 images, and in the 5th message, Mail displayed none!
What on earth is going on??? I'm having to launch the AOL app several times a day, just to access standard attachments! But, as Jayhawk said -- it's not 100% of the time. For me, it's somewhere between 25 and 35% of the time.
I'm a loyal Apple fan -- but I'm fuming over this.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2005 4:05 AM (in response to jayhawk)In my experience, this has to do with IMAP accounts in MAIL. I have had an AOL IMAP account and frequently experienced the same problem (with attachments of all kinds). Once I started using my .Mac account only, the problem has disappeared. So, it could be simply AOL or, it could be any IMAP account. I don't have time to experiment which it is. I do believe that Apple knows about this issue.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2005 6:43 AM (in response to Austin Kinsella1)It is also possible that the sender is using a poorly written mail program (like almost anything Microsoft...outlock, OuthouseExpress).
Plus you're using Group-unWise? It's possible that your GW server is doing something funky with the mail/attachments as they're recieved on the server.
Or they're inserting, instead of attaching.
But why Mail is even displaying the contents of a ZIP file is odd.
I wonder why you're not using the program associated with the file type?
Word for word docs, stuffit/finder for ZIP's/preview for JPG's..
Try saving the attachment like Austin suggests. Then open the saved file.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2005 7:44 AM (in response to Rick Van Vliet)I would gladly save the attachment if mail recognized that there was an attachment. It doesn't as you can see below.
I am not sure we can post images, but here is a screenshot of an email that contained 1 attachment. the attachment looked great in entourage and it looks great on mail.app on my other macintosh, but on this laptop (powerbook 1.25 Ghz) it is jibberish w/ no attachment recognized. And, other mail attachments from this student will work just fine. It really seems random.
If that didn't work, here is the URL: http://homepage.mac.com/jayhawk/.Pictures/no_attachment.jpg
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2005 8:45 AM (in response to jayhawk)OK, I see what you mean.
I would almost suggest trashing the Mail prefs (since your mail SHOULD know how to handle these kinds of mail msgs.)
I sure seems that Mail just plain forgets how to handle attachments, and sometimes hangs on as an atachment, and sometimes tries to display 'inline' (in the msg).
But if you're convinced that it's nothing to do with the Sender, or their Server, or your Groupwise Server...then look at rebuilding your prefs. (I'm not on my Mac just now, so I can't point you to which plists to delete.)
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2005 12:21 PM (in response to jayhawk)This is not intended as a fix, but as a work-around so that you can retrieve the pics. Use File/Save as... to save the message. I don't know whether it will make a difference, so if Raw Message doesn't work try Plain Text. Drop the resulting file onto Stuffit Expander. It may expand in the same location as your saved file, or it may make a new folder there and expand in that. Either way you will have two (maybe more) files, one containing the text (and maybe the headers) of the email and one containing the jpeg.
I use this technique for extracting student reports sent as attachments, but automated in an Applescript - if you like I can post it.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 20, 2005 8:21 AM (in response to Austin Kinsella1)Wow! Beleive it or not, that workaround actually worked! Thanks for the idea. I am having the problem with message created on mac and sent via my own internal mailserver from someone else on my network so I definitely think the problem resides in Mail. (also, never saw this before upgrading to Tiger!) Hope Apple comes up with a fix soon...
Currently Being ModeratedOct 26, 2005 8:47 PM (in response to jayhawk)My wife and I each have an account within the same Mail app on a single computer (as a single user).
When I send using my wife's pop account, attachments are sent fine.
But when I send using my .mac account, attachments are scrambled.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 26, 2005 9:11 PM (in response to Neil Saravanamuttoo)Interesting. (Thanks Neil)
Not to raise more questions than are warranted, but are we:
1) dragging the file into the msg, or using the attach/paperclip button an browsing?
2) Are you using "Windows-Friendly Attachment" setting?
3) are messages being composed using Rich Text or Plain Text (Preferences)?
But dot-mac is IMAP-based, isn't it...
Is there some reason to believe that these two IMAP servers aren't somehow misconfigured?
Or that the client isn't misconfigured.
We need Ernie to pop in with an idea --- he's really good with mail. I'm just trying to eliminate a few variables (and Mail has a few(!) built in. Not to mention the variety of screwed up mail servers. sorry, groupwise
Currently Being ModeratedOct 27, 2005 7:04 AM (in response to Rick Van Vliet)Rick
To answer your questions:
1- I am using the paperclip
2- yes, Windows-friendly attachments
3- probably Rich Text (sorry, away from my home computer right now)
Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2005 3:47 PM (in response to Neil Saravanamuttoo)I'm experiencing a similar problem.
We've got a TiBook and an iMac connected to the same IMAP account.
Sometimes the iMac doesn't download MS Word attachments correctly, displaying them as garbage text within the original email. The Powerbook though doesn't have trouble at all. I can even forward an email, which doesn't display properly on the iMac, to myself using the PB and the iMac will download the forwarded attachment without any issues. Furthermore, the iMac refuses to check for emails from time to time, telling me there aren't any new messages. I restart Mail and all of a sudden, new (actually, rather old) messages are flying in. This didn't get fixed by upgrading to 10.4.3.
Will try deleting prefs...
Mail was acting up on a different AlBook as well. We had an IMAP account functioning fine for months, then over night Mail reverted to it's default state, displaying that "welcome, please enter your account information.." screen at launch. (Luckily we're using IMAP, so I just punched in the server settings and let Mail sync again.) FileVault user, btw.15 PB G4 Ti 867Mhz; 768 RAM; iPod;, Mac OS X (10.4.3)
Currently Being ModeratedDec 22, 2005 12:27 PM (in response to Austin Kinsella1)Your workaround doesn't work well enough. I have emails like that that say they have 4 attachments, but Mail thinks they are just long text files. When I save the message to a file and expand it with Stuffit Expander, one of the attachments is decoded but the others are not.
I am getting my mail through an imap server.
We need a reliable workaround or a fix! Like the rest, I think this only started happening when I upgraded to Tiger - the earliest such mail that I seem to have was received on Aug. 24.
(I can get the attachments through a web email interface, but it is a pain compared to the convenience of OS X Mail.)
PowerBook G4 15 (Titanium) Mac OS X (10.4.3)
PowerBook G4 15 (Titanium)