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Apple Becomes Big Brother

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Apr 20, 2011 11:23 AM
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  • varjak paw Level 10 Level 10 (167,145 points)
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    Apr 20, 2011 12:04 PM (in response to privacy)

    Apple would only be spying on you if this information was sent to them, and there's been absolutely no indication that this has ever been the case. Cellphones and cell systems have kept this sort of information for years, but I don't see anyone getting their dander up over it.

     

    Personally I think this a small issue; the only people would could ever access this information would be someone who stole your iPhone or computer, and at that point that would probably be a lessor worry for you than other issues. But you can comment to Apple on the matter via their feedback page, if you wish:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

     

    Regards.

  • wooster7 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Apr 20, 2011 12:49 PM (in response to privacy)

    The phone company analogy is flawed.  Phone companies track details of cell phone calls to manage their networks and do billing. That info is stored behind firewalls, and only released if there's a court order.

     

    This info is stored on the phone and any computer you synch to, and it doesn't do you any good. It also doesn't help Apple serve you any better.  So it serves no useful purpose, takes up some disk space, and has to potential to be abused -- it needs to go away.

     

    A victim of domestic violence could have their movements tracked by their abuser. They may have left home without "permission", or gone somewhere they've been told not to go.

    If you have a phone for work, or just sometimes synch your own phone to your work computer, your employer could track your movements. 

    When you travel internationally, and customs takes away your laptop for inspection, in some cases they are copying your hard drive, and they'd have this info.

     

    It's creepy, and entirely unnecessary.  I have sent feedback to Apple, too.

  • varjak paw Level 10 Level 10 (167,145 points)
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    Apr 20, 2011 1:35 PM (in response to privacy)

    For now, you can encrypt your iPhone backups and make sure you have a passcode on your iPhone. That's not an absolute protection from someone being able to extract the information from your iPhone, but it would make access to that information more difficult.

     

    Regards.

  • spiffing Calculating status...
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    Apr 20, 2011 2:05 PM (in response to varjak paw)

    So I loaded up the tracking app to see where I'd been even though I'd switched off location services and low and behold it shows exactly where I've been AND the "person" who had the phone before me. Yes, I sent mine in for repair and received a "new" unit and it shows the locations the previous "person" has been, by the way I haven't been to these locations with this phone and the concentration of these places aren't random "noise". So send an iphone in for repair and they can see where you've been.

     

    So anyone could "borrow" your phone without you knowing, sync it and know where you've been!!! Disgusted, barely describes how I feel.

     

    This is going to be one of the biggest issues in the history of Apple.

  • ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)
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    Apr 20, 2011 2:21 PM (in response to spiffing)

    Think that's bad?

     

    This device is configured to read over 3000 cell phone models, bypassing the password and encryption.

     

    http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/34/3458.asp

     

     

     

    The flash/ssd drives are not being erased neither, despite what you do in software

     

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/02/17/1911217/Confidential-Data-Not-Safe-O n-Solid-State-Disks

     

    http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.html

  • wjosten Level 10 Level 10 (91,315 points)
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    Apr 20, 2011 2:16 PM (in response to privacy)

    Aliens have been spying on you for decades. They even copy SMS's to read for entertainment on they're way home

  • Lawrence Finch Level 7 Level 7 (24,500 points)
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    Apr 20, 2011 2:17 PM (in response to privacy)
  • DavidK2010 Level 2 Level 2 (160 points)
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    Apr 20, 2011 3:17 PM (in response to spiffing)

    This is disgusting, I cant get it to work because im on windows, but how do apple get away with this? it's an invasion of privacy

     

    The way Apple are going they will lose customer after customer.

  • DavidK2010 Level 2 Level 2 (160 points)
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    Apr 20, 2011 3:19 PM (in response to varjak paw)

    Dave Sawyer wrote:

     

    Apple would only be spying on you if this information was sent to them, and there's been absolutely no indication that this has ever been the case.

     

     

    So why do apple want the phone to do it?

  • Kiwiphone4 Level 4 Level 4 (1,425 points)
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    Apr 20, 2011 4:07 PM (in response to DavidK2010)

    It's not good that Apple has not said anywhere that the phone is logging this information.

    I'm not too happy with this kind of data being able to be used to track me.

    And the worst thing is that it is taking apace on my iPhone! I need all the space I can get.

     

    But, and there are more then a few buts...

    • I tried it and it was wildly inaccurate.
    • My iphone archive is encrypted (which is recommended by Apple) so no-one could easily get the information; I had to temporarily unencrypt it see the data.
    • This data is in no way sent to Apple or anyone else at the moment.
    • This kind of data is already being logged by cellphone companies anyway.
    • This kind of data would really help if you are having troubles with connections; Apple can instantly see if it is a network issue or a phone hardware issue.
    • And it was kind of cool to see where I had been; I was actually sad to see it wasn't accurate at all.
  • PacificBlue Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Apr 20, 2011 5:57 PM (in response to privacy)

    Anything is trackable these days. Anything that has to do with technology. Email, social networks, the internet, cell phones, walkie-talkies and so on. There is a reason why certain individuals share a single email account and communicate by writing messages and saving them as Drafts. Nothing sent = nothing traced. Privacy is the price we all have to pay for many of the things we take for granted, mainly our security and freedom. Why do you think certain organizations from the middle east cannot be traced? They use no technology to communicate with each other.

  • spiffing Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Apr 21, 2011 4:27 AM (in response to spiffing)

    Thankfully someone has come up with a solution so I can keep my iPhone a little longer, then I'll be swapping to a different manufacturer who doesn't spy on us.

     

    http://www.tuaw.com/2011/04/21/untrackerd-wipes-stored-location-data-on-your-jai lbroken-iphone/

     

    We never have to accept invasion of our Privacy, no matter what technology we use.

  • Lawrence Finch Level 7 Level 7 (24,500 points)
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    Apr 21, 2011 4:35 AM (in response to spiffing)

    Not ideal, as it requires jailbreaking your phone. I'd never considered jailbreaking....until now.

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