JMWhitt

Q: 27" iMac Hard Drive Fan Problem

I have a 27" iMac with 3.06ghz processor 1tb hdd and 4gb of ram purchased around march and I am having a weird problem with the hard drive fan. I brought it to the genius bar and they said the problem was with a program i was running(I dont believe them). I find the problem to be strange. I keep my computer running all the time and restart from time to time but rarely shut down. I noticed that the fan was running at high rpm's and they only solution was to shut down and restart would do nothing to resolve the problem. Then I noticed up in the next week that the same problem was happening. I started noticing a trend it was happening at the same time every week on the same day. I look up if there is anything in Activity Monitor causing the problem and I find nothing. Currently the only apps I have running mostly are Google Chrome, Mail, Adium, Itunes, Echofon and Dropbox. I wouldn't think that any of these apps are causing this problem. Anyone have any idea what could be causing this problem? Any help will be appreciated.

27" iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.4)

Posted on Aug 1, 2010 5:46 PM

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  • by pedro3178,

    pedro3178 pedro3178 Feb 25, 2011 12:02 AM in response to PhyZix
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    Feb 25, 2011 12:02 AM in response to PhyZix
    I can understand this was driving you crazy and you just tried everything, you have to see it from my point of view, i would not be in my job much longer if i was to advise people to pull out the mains power while the machine was running let alone when the hard drive is at the most point of strain during boot! I know and understand you are saying it worked for you but the next person might not be so lucky and could end up with a dead HD or worse!
  • by BenSurtees,

    BenSurtees BenSurtees Mar 29, 2011 7:46 PM in response to JMWhitt
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    Mar 29, 2011 7:46 PM in response to JMWhitt
    Hi, for anyone having issues with a overactive fan due to the HDD temp sensor not working, I have created a program that will let you set a fan speed to HDD S.M.A.R.T temperature relationship.

    I made this as I was having the same issue having upgraded my HDD to a model that doesn't provide the correct temperature using the sensor cable.

    I started using smcFanControl with sleepwatcher but didn't like the manual setup and the fact I was limiting the fan speed no matter the HDD temperature. now thats not a problem.

    You can grab the software from

    http://www.hddfancontrol.com

    Its heavily based on Fan Control, but has been modified for use with the iMac and the HDD Fan, and now reads HDD temp using S.M.A.R.T. It also controls the speed OK with the overactive fans.

    Hope this helps some of you. Let everyone and me know if it does.

    Thanks

    Ben
  • by napple21,

    napple21 napple21 Apr 10, 2011 11:40 AM in response to JMWhitt
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    Apr 10, 2011 11:40 AM in response to JMWhitt
    I've tried a couple programs but none of them have the option of setting a max rpm so I've decded I'll be best off just shorting out the cable, how did you guys go about doing that?
  • by BenSurtees,

    BenSurtees BenSurtees Apr 15, 2011 1:32 PM in response to napple21
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    Apr 15, 2011 1:32 PM in response to napple21
    Hi napple21, HDDFanControl does exactly that, it sets the max and min speed for the fan as set by you.
    At least give it a try before shorting out the cable. It works and means your fan will still cool the drive properly.
  • by PDub65,

    PDub65 PDub65 Apr 17, 2011 6:43 PM in response to JMWhitt
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    Apr 17, 2011 6:43 PM in response to JMWhitt

    I was having problems with the fan running at 5000+ rpm after replacing the existing Seagate 1TB drive with a Seagate 2TB drive. I tried HDDFanControl and smcFanControl but neither worked, they didn't show the temperature. I ended up fixing the problem by going to the Apple Icon / About This Mac / More Info / and clicking on Serial-ATA. As soon as I clicked on the Seagate  drive entry, the fan slowed down and I could now see temperature inside HDDFanControl. Maybe something didn't get updated when I replaced the drive?

     

    I did a clean install on the new drive and installed all updates.

     

    Who knows, but now my fan is running at 3000 rpm and the drive is at 38 degrees celcius.

  • by BenSurtees,

    BenSurtees BenSurtees Apr 17, 2011 8:36 PM in response to PDub65
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    Apr 17, 2011 8:36 PM in response to PDub65

    Hi PDub65, it sounds like something was holding on to your SMART data, going to More Info and clicking on your HDD probably released it (More Info reads the SMART data when you click on the HDD) this would then have allowed HDDFanControl to read HDD temperature correctly.  iStat is a know to prevent other applications from reading SMART data.

     

    Glad your system is now OK.

     

    Ben

  • by BenSurtees,

    BenSurtees BenSurtees Apr 17, 2011 9:24 PM in response to BenSurtees
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    Apr 17, 2011 9:24 PM in response to BenSurtees

    Just as a side note, I have now updated HDDFanControl to V1.1, it now works alongside iStat etc, and should not have the issue PDub65 had.

     

    By the way PDub65 thanks for your post, it gave me an idea of how to get round iStat in HDDFanControl.

     

    Thanks

     

    Ben

  • by PDub65,

    PDub65 PDub65 Apr 18, 2011 7:22 AM in response to BenSurtees
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    Apr 18, 2011 7:22 AM in response to BenSurtees

    Thanks Ben!

     

    HDDFanControl is working great on my late 2009 27" iMac.

     

    pdub

  • by bitznbytes,

    bitznbytes bitznbytes Apr 21, 2011 11:31 AM in response to PDub65
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    Apr 21, 2011 11:31 AM in response to PDub65

    Thanks Ben!

     

    HDDFanControl is working great on my late 2009 27" iMac. I've been YEARS looking for a fix for this!!!!!! What should my IDEAL Base, Lower, and Upper Thresholds be set at? And based on that, what should my IDEAL temp and fan speed be?

     

    Thanks,

     

    B

  • by BenSurtees,

    BenSurtees BenSurtees Apr 21, 2011 11:41 AM in response to bitznbytes
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    Apr 21, 2011 11:41 AM in response to bitznbytes

    I'm happy it helped, The default settings are OK, I purposely have not recommended settings, I am using 44C as lower, 52C as higher, and 1400 RPM as base.

     

    But it really depends on your drives specs, and how careful you want to be and if you can stand a fan sound.

    I find at my values the drive sits from about 37C to 43C depending on usage and temperature of apartment.

     

    I use these settings as my drive specs 62C as its upper safe limit, I dont really want it getting anywhere near that, but also dont want a fan going when its not needed, so I have a resonable base rate, and a steep ramp above normal operating temperatures to prevent it overheating.

     

    Hope this helps, perhaps post on here setting you found worked well for you.

     

    Thanks

     

    Ben

  • by jyavenard,

    jyavenard jyavenard Jun 10, 2011 9:24 AM in response to BenSurtees
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    Jun 10, 2011 9:24 AM in response to BenSurtees

    $29 for such utility?

     

    What a good example of greedy behaviour to exploit trouble of others...

    Especially when all the bricks to build such tools came from publicly disclosed information and free tools (such as smartmontools)

  • by aoreyes,

    aoreyes aoreyes Jul 1, 2011 8:23 AM in response to BenSurtees
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    Jul 1, 2011 8:23 AM in response to BenSurtees

    Hi Ben,

    I have carefully read all posts referred to Imac fans. My problem was overheating: I use to run BOINC and ROSSETA (SETI) whenever the activiy of my computer is low and my CPU could reach temperatures above 75º. I learned about the existence of smcFanControl and started using it. It allows me to run the three fans, including the HDD one, at necessary speeds to keep temperature at adequate levels (around 60/65º at 3000 rpm), lowering or raising the speeds with the help of a bar, and thought it could really solved most of the problems explained in the post.

    I am also using Disk Drill and have in my upper right corner two indicators: temperature and speed (fixed all the time) of CPU and the temperature of the HDD. If I want to see the rpms of it I have to go to smcFanControl's preferences.

    I think Ben that your app is very helpful. My suggestion is that you could widen its scope to the ODD and CPU fans, and add to them the automatic fixing of rpm depending on the temperature of each one. My solution works ok for me but lacks flexibility because rpms are fixed all the time.

    By the way, before starting using smcFanControl,+-*

    I had to change the original Mac HD WD 250MB to a Samsung 750MB and never had this problem most of you are pointing. I have an early 2008 iMac8,1

  • by sean287,

    sean287 sean287 Oct 16, 2011 5:17 AM in response to JMWhitt
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    Oct 16, 2011 5:17 AM in response to JMWhitt

    Ok so i know a lot of u guys dont care and all but i know how to fix this and did this with god knows how many macs that had this problem. On so imma use the 27in imac as the example and the same goes for the 21.5 but lets just keep it simple with just mentionin the 27in.

     

    So today i had an imac on the bench that the previous owner reported issues with and her problem was video related...got the imac for a great deal and it turns out the video connected was disconnected so once i plugged it back in it was back up and running except it didnt have a hdd so i put a brand new wd 1tb hdd in there so i can resell the machine after loading the os...soon after turning it on the hdd fan spun balls fast and smc fan control didnt help one bit since it controls the minimum fan speed not the max fan speed so i was like **** what did i break?? So i checked the plug for the hdd and it was inserted correctly so i hit google and foun out apple uses some ******** hdd firmware/sensor combo that forces u to use an appl hdd...or so people think. Like i said i have multiple machines i worked on so i noticed the optical drive sensor cable was the tame connector the hdd sensor cable uses to connect to the main board itself and since i had them layin around i though what the **** lets give it a shot since its not like it would kill ne thing...well turns out it did...the fan noise....once i plugged in the spare odd sensor into the hdd connector the computer fired right on up and best of all the machine ran for hours without the slightest bit of maxed out fan noise like before. I use smc so before the fans would hit like 5300 rpm but after the sensor was added the fans stayed at the 2050-2100 they should be at so in short buy an odd sensor for ur imac if the connector is the same size because thats wayyyy better then usin some software to trick ur machine that can prevent it from speedin up when it really needs to...sorry if my post was ballz long but i wanted to share all the info since this is a perfect way to bypass any future hdd size limit imposed by apple and we all know apple hdd or non appl hdd they do the same **** thing so why should u be forced into buying apple only hardware?? Well luckily for u now ya dont lol. Best of luck guys and anyone that tried this post ur results so others know what im sayin isnt bs because im genuinly tryin to help out.

  • by jyavenard,

    jyavenard jyavenard Oct 16, 2011 1:54 PM in response to sean287
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    Oct 16, 2011 1:54 PM in response to sean287

    It wasn't a mid-2011 iMac though. Earlier mac did use a sensor cable, the the 2011 ones.

  • by im7md,

    im7md im7md Dec 7, 2011 2:00 PM in response to sean287
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    Dec 7, 2011 2:00 PM in response to sean287

    Hi sean287,

    Can you please tell me what is the [ hdd sensor cable ] u used to solve this issue?

    and how I can get it ?

    if you have links please provide.

     

    I installed Western digital 1TB and having 4800rpm fan speed. imac27" late 2009

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