jamesfromwood

Q: I didnt encrypt my backup files but it is locked and I cant restore my new iphone

I replaced an iphone that had hardware or software problems(my wife's) she backup the current iphone the week before we exchange it. When we tried to restore the new one it required a password to open the backup file but we didnt encrypt it. How can we remove the password or retreive the file from the computer.

                                                                                                                                                             thank you

iPhone 4, Windows Vista

Posted on May 1, 2011 8:01 PM

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Q: I didnt encrypt my backup files but it is locked and I cant restore my new iphone

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  • by Ingo2711,

    Ingo2711 Ingo2711 May 1, 2011 10:49 PM in response to jamesfromwood
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    May 1, 2011 10:49 PM in response to jamesfromwood

    You can't remove the password from an encrypted backup:

    Warning: If you encrypt an iPhone backup in iTunes and then forget your password, you will not be able to restore from backup and your data will be unrecoverable. If you forget the password you can continue to do backups and use the device, however you will not be able to restore the encrypted backup to any device without the password. You do not need to enter the password for your backup each time you back up or sync.

    If you cannot remember the password and want to start again, you will have to do a full software restore and when prompted by iTunes to select the backup to restore from, choose Set up as a new device.

     

    copied from http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1766 "About backups"

  • by Tom_Cheltenham_UK,

    Tom_Cheltenham_UK Tom_Cheltenham_UK May 14, 2011 4:05 PM in response to jamesfromwood
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    May 14, 2011 4:05 PM in response to jamesfromwood

    Right there with you mate.  All I want to do is stop my future backups from encrypting but for some reason iTunes has AUTOMATICALLY decided that all backups will be encrypted from now on.  As it has done this for me (I have never requested this) I have no idea what the password is and so now (according to some very unhelpful Apple drones) I have no choice but to sacrifice time and data.  When are Apple going to admit this farce and offer users a realistic solution to the mysterious encrypted backups situation?  I for one give it 3 months before I move to Android at this rate.

  • by Ingo2711,

    Ingo2711 Ingo2711 May 15, 2011 4:22 AM in response to Tom_Cheltenham_UK
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    May 15, 2011 4:22 AM in response to Tom_Cheltenham_UK

    @Tom
    As provided, to stop the backups from being encrypted, set it up "as new iphone" without using the backup.
    After that your backups will not be encrypted anymore.


    There are no Apple drones here, just users like you, trying to help other users.

  • by Tom_Cheltenham_UK,

    Tom_Cheltenham_UK Tom_Cheltenham_UK May 15, 2011 12:27 PM in response to Ingo2711
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    May 15, 2011 12:27 PM in response to Ingo2711

    Yeah, the solution presented tells me I'm going to lose all my data (as thanks to an apple tech I have no unencrypted backups to revert to).  Are you proposing I erase my device just forget my data?

  • by Ingo2711,

    Ingo2711 Ingo2711 May 15, 2011 12:59 PM in response to Tom_Cheltenham_UK
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    May 15, 2011 12:59 PM in response to Tom_Cheltenham_UK

    Sorry, there is no other way to stop iTunes encrypting your backups.
    Follow this article to transfer as much data as you can and set it up "as new iphone" http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4137

  • by Tom_Cheltenham_UK,

    Tom_Cheltenham_UK Tom_Cheltenham_UK May 15, 2011 2:16 PM in response to Ingo2711
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    May 15, 2011 2:16 PM in response to Ingo2711

    Again, not really that helpful.  Ho hum, basically coming from a PC background "there is no way..." is not a phrase I am used to hearing being applied to IT.  If you seriously telling me that I have to sacrifice data , "in-app" purchases, created content, etc.etc. to do this then I will be either a) jailbreaking my device or b) going Android.  Either way I'm less likely to have to deal with this bullspunk in future.

     

    Thanks for nothing.

  • by wjosten,

    wjosten wjosten May 15, 2011 2:21 PM in response to Tom_Cheltenham_UK
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    May 15, 2011 2:21 PM in response to Tom_Cheltenham_UK

    Look, get over it. It is what it is. Move on, and stop posting to every thread you can find regarding this. If there were an easy way to bypass the encrypted backup feature, well, there wouldn't be much point in having it in the first place. Jailbreaking your phone won't solve your problem either. Sell your phone and buy something else.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch May 15, 2011 3:49 PM in response to jamesfromwood
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    May 15, 2011 3:49 PM in response to jamesfromwood

    If the phone has been provisioned for a corporate account with a secure Enterprise provisioning profile iTunes will require that the backup be encrypted, and there is no way to override this. This will happen automatically when the phone is connected to an Exchange account that includes a provisioning profile, and there is no way around it short of restoring the phone as new. So is the phone in question used with a corporate account?

  • by Tom_Cheltenham_UK,

    Tom_Cheltenham_UK Tom_Cheltenham_UK May 15, 2011 4:41 PM in response to wjosten
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    May 15, 2011 4:41 PM in response to wjosten

    Great that is exactly what I was expecting, especially from reading some of your previous responses.  Perhaps your pearls of wisdom should be bookmarked for future reference.

     

    "If you have a problem with glitchy Apple software that neither we or Apple can solve, get over it and sell your Apple product!". You make a wonderful ambassador for Apple! 

     

    Tell you what, I think I will follow your advice and when I write to Cupertino to inform them why I will be striking Apple products from my organisations procurement register I will tell them I am basing it on your recommendation.

     

    Have a nice day.

  • by david_edwards2,

    david_edwards2 david_edwards2 May 24, 2011 8:31 AM in response to Ingo2711
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    May 24, 2011 8:31 AM in response to Ingo2711

    The original posting said clearly that he didn't choose to encrypt the backup, and choosing to backup without encryption going forward, cannot be deselected without entering this mystery password that has not been set. This happens frequently to other people. Your posting infers that he set a password. Also, choosing to setup the iphone as new, will delete the information he is looking to back up. I'm looking for a solution to this as well and have found nothing.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch May 24, 2011 8:43 AM in response to david_edwards2
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    May 24, 2011 8:43 AM in response to david_edwards2

    See my message below this one.

  • by david_edwards2,

    david_edwards2 david_edwards2 May 24, 2011 9:25 AM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    May 24, 2011 9:25 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

    The issue I just dealt with happened to involve an individual without being attached to any IT server. This was a private individual looking to backup his old phone to his new one. He had never used his phone for work purposes. Your suggestion was viable if that were the case. Not to be rude. Sorry if it came across that way. Some suggestions here on this discussion board are given out as a general response that you'd hear from tech support with a KB that is not relevant to the original issue.

  • by MimiSeven,

    MimiSeven MimiSeven Jul 5, 2011 6:54 PM in response to jamesfromwood
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    Jul 5, 2011 6:54 PM in response to jamesfromwood

    I too was experiencing multiple software/hardware problems and was told to restore my phone by customer support.  Lost all notes, photos, etc.  Would have never attempted the fixes if I had been properly warned.  Apple support assured me all data would be restored.

    I love my Iphone, but hate the drama.  I will be updating soon and am on my way to an Android.

    The encryption password problem is the last straw.

  • by Tom_Cheltenham_UK,

    Tom_Cheltenham_UK Tom_Cheltenham_UK Jul 6, 2011 5:37 AM in response to MimiSeven
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    Jul 6, 2011 5:37 AM in response to MimiSeven

    I feel for you MimiSeven I'm havin a few problems with my iPad still revolving around an encryption password I never set.  Unfortunately no one on here or Apple phone line tech support is helpful so I feel I will be joining you in moving to Andoid.  I might also see if I can't sell my iPad if I can load it with Android instead of an operating system (iOS) that doesn't seem to care about personal data.

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