Currently Being ModeratedJun 22, 2011 9:54 AM (in response to bambe009)
Hello, bambe009, and welcome to the forums,
Because it hasn't actually shipped yet any answers here are speculation and nothing is actually known for certain.
That being said it does appear that the only means of distribution will be via the App Store (with some 'sort of' exemptions for large institutional and educational buyers) so some form of Leopard appears it will be necessary.
It may be possible that your client Leopard to Lion Server may very well work (there's nothing to stop you from installing client Leopard on the Xserve) but the obvious downside of this is that you will need to recreate all your services and accounts etc from scratch in Lion. There is a upgrade/migration path for going from 10.4 to either 10.5 or 10.6 that updates your old services and accounts from one server set-up to the new one. I speculate that Lion will have a similar system to move from Snow Leopard Server to Lion Server and assuming it does you would lose this moving from the client version to server.
In addition it seems that the Lion Server "add-on" is essentially $50 upgrade to the product itself making the total cost more like $80 total, but still distinctly less than before.
Again - this is several layers of speculation about a product that does not exist yet so several large grains of salt should be taken with this.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 21, 2011 6:11 PM (in response to bambe009)
Bambe09, sorry but there is no clear upgrade path to lion from tiger. Even if there was I do not recommend this.
Your safest bet is to backup or clone your server drive export all your users/groups, note your sharepoints and settings and setup a new lion server. I have even gone through 10.5 to 10.6 server upgrades they are all a bundle of hurt that ultimately result in clean installs. Take from my experience and save yourself the trouble.
To do a clean install of lion you need at least a snow leopard machine that you can download lion. Then from the download right click "show package contents" inside this there is a shared content folder. You will find a installesd.dmg or something similar. Use disk utility to restore that dmg to a thumb drive or DVD. You can then use you standard option boot manager to boot from the lion installer. You will need to erase your installation drive to hfs+ otherwise the lion installer will say it cannot upgrade your version of OSX.
I hope this helps.
Also look out slot of features have been removed from lion that existed in previous OSX servers. FTP print services qtss. Some can be used via command line tools other completely removed.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 12, 2011 2:48 AM (in response to PleaseandThankYou)
Does anyone have any more info on this topic. We are currently stuck with an XServe running 10.4 Tiger. We want to upgrade to Lion but there is no way to do that it seems. Snow Leopard Server is gone from the Apple Store and Snow Leopard doesn't install on an XServe. How on earth can we upgrade?
Currently Being ModeratedAug 12, 2011 3:03 AM (in response to hmeerlo)
Email me your contact info I will be more then glad to call you and explain your options. I'm on my iPhone and that's just alot of typing. Thanks - Eric Eric@ericfoust.com
Currently Being ModeratedAug 12, 2011 6:24 AM (in response to hmeerlo)
Snow leopard client does install on an xserve, just a few functions do not work like the front pannel lights. You can upgrade it to 10.6.6 all the way up to 10.6.8 to get the mac app store. You can now download lion and the server version.
Or you can wait and buy the 60-70$ USB install stick then pay for server once you are online.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 23, 2011 6:54 PM (in response to ClassicII)
If your Xserve Intel is running 10.4.x Server, it must be a Xserve Late 2006. You should first should make a backup. Erase you boot partition and do a clean install of SL Server 10.6.8. You can give a call to Apple and you should able to buy Snow Leopart Server from them. +/- 499$. Lion Server is not ready for business..
BTW better stock NOW for those Xserve ADM, Power Supply, ...
Google is your friend ;-)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 23, 2011 11:03 PM (in response to keith1999)
Thanks. I hate the lack of focus from Apple on users who invested a lot of money in these machines and are left in the dark. Anyway the quickest, and in the end cheapest solution for us was to buy a new Mac mini server with Lion pre-installed. So that's what we did.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 24, 2011 2:13 AM (in response to bambe009)
Did no one read my earlier post there is no need to by snow leopard server or go get a Mac mini server. I described quickly how to make a bootable copy of lion from the download as long as you had one machine that was capable of having the app store. From there you can have a clean install of lion then once installed purchase the server components. I just finished a 10.5 to 10.7 migration. I just backed up 10.5 using carbon copy cloner. Used my method above to install lion on the Xserve. I then setup the server then used passenger by macinmind to do a custom import of teachers and all current students to retrieve home profile as my scheme for shortnames changed and uids were reassigned. I left my email above for anyone who wished to email me their contact I info I would gladly return a call and explain. I'm not in the position to be a consultant for hire simply willing to help the community.