FCPX at the London FCPUG

The London Final Cut Pro Usergroup was held earlier today. As someone who was, shall we say, "somewhat disappointed" by the latest release, I was eager to hear what others thought, and whether or not there would be any word from Apple as to the future of Final Cut Pro.


During the second half, Larry Jordan took the stage. One of the first things he asked was how many people were pleased about the direction Final Cut Pro had taken with the new release (I'm paraphrasing here). Out of about 300 people, maybe a dozen raised their hand. He then went on to give a bit of a tour of the new version, in an effort to dispel some of the misinformation circulating about the release. He also explained that while he isn't directly affiliated with Apple, he had been in contact with the development team (if I have some time tomorrow I will try to post a transcript of the email he read out from them).


I will try to summarise the main points below:


  • Audio cross-fades can be done, but the process is ugly. Probably will be fixed soon.
  • Media does not have to be copied to the local drive.
  • Plugins will work, but the developers need to recode them.
  • Keyboard shortcuts are same as FCP7
  • It will be down to blackmagic et al. to get SDI out monitoring
  • Apple Color is dead
  • Audio mixing is not very good at the moment
  • The magnetic timeline will grow on people, as will the skimmer
  • You can do versioning by duplicating projects, otherwise everything is saved as you go along (my own guess is that this will tie in to OS 10.7's autosave and versioning functionality in the future anyway)
  • Markers are still supported, with a new type of marker (a "to-do" marker)
  • There's no way to have a separate viewer and sequence window like in FCP 7
  • Dual screens can be used, in a limited sense
  • There should be a major update within 4 months
  • There's no way to work collaboratively right now
  • It's mad that it doesn't import FCP7 projects
  • It will be down to third-parties to create support for EDLs, XML, and decks (Apple is not interested in any of these).


For me personally, it's the last point that kills it for me. Everything I do in post revolves around interchange. EDLs are 30 years old, but they work because they are incredibly simple. It should be so trivial to code EDL export for Final Cut Pro that I'm actually looking into doing it myself. But to "outsource" FCPXML -a specification created by Apple, no less - to third-parties, will just not work in the long term. Who will decide how the format grows (and unlike EDLs, it must grow)? Autodesk, Adobe, and others actively support the FCPXML format. That Apple are effectively abandoning it is bad news for the post industry.


Anyway, I hope that's food for thought for some of you. I'll update this post tomorrow if I think of anything else I've missed.

Posted on Jun 23, 2011 3:59 PM

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Jun 23, 2011 5:20 PM in response to jackjames

Keyboard shortcuts are same as FCP7

This is a categorical lie. Almost none of the keyboard shortcuts are the same. All the primary editing shortcuts have changed.


Markers are still supported,

But not chapter markers. Jeez, even iTunes podcasts have chapter markers, but, no, not our professional editing software.


Basically, he's saying, they knew it was awful, they knew professionals would hate it, they knew it was an overpriced, worthless piece of kaka, but they went ahead and did it any way and the customers be ******.

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Jun 24, 2011 3:25 AM in response to NezihSavaskan

RedHavoc wrote:


I'd like to hear the rest of this. Were you there yourself?

I was. I have to say as much as there is a lot of negativity towards Larry Jordan, I really respect him for not shying away from adversity and talking about the issues quite Frankly. I mean, his talk was laced with quite a lot of rhetoric ("it's not the end of the world", etc etc), but he didn't decline to answer any questions (including my own: "what were they thinking").



RedHavoc wrote:


Having spent the past three days on this forum, I think that list only covers about half of the gripes people have and the problems people are facing!

These are just the things I remember off the top of my head. Sadly I didn't make any notes, in all honesty because I was expecting the whole thing to be a whitewash. Remind me of anything I've left out and I'll try to cover it.


I'll try to transcribe the recording today as it was the only thing that's come close to an official word on the situation from Apple, though I have to say the recording is not particularly good :/

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Jun 24, 2011 3:22 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

Tom Wolsky wrote:


Keyboard shortcuts are same as FCP7

This is a categorical lie. Almost none of the keyboard shortcuts are the same. All the primary editing shortcuts have changed.

I have to admit, I personally don't use a lot of keyboard shortcuts, except for zoom, playback, insert/overwrite/etc. None of these are different by default. If there are others that are different, they can be remapped, so this seems like a bit of a moot point.



Tom Wolsky wrote:


But not chapter markers. Jeez, even iTunes podcasts have chapter markers, but, no, not our professional editing software.


DVD/Blu-ray authoring support is dead. Thanks for reminding me, I will add to the list.


EDIT: Great I can't edit previous posts. Nice one Apple.


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Jun 24, 2011 3:59 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

Tom,

Jordan kept saying that this is just version 1 and that we need to give time to Apple and third party developers to provide what is missing but I believe he also said that if in 4 months or so Apple does not release a major update he will start teaching only other editing software. I honestly believe Apple is going to feed its new baby with relevant updates pretty soon, I might be wrong, but I think it is going to happen. Not sure though when or if these updates will ever make everyone happy.

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Jun 24, 2011 8:03 AM in response to jackjames

That saddens me that DVD/Blu-Ray support is dead.


IDK about some of you but so far everything that I get paid to do involves me putting the finished content on a DVD. Heck, i just bought a blu ray burner so that I could offer customers blu ray DVD's if they want.


The future might be digital downloads and whatnot, but right now do you really think grandma or technologically unoriented parents are going to want to use the internet to get all their content?


Heck, my mom still can't figure out how to change the channel

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