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  • 15. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Welshcloggy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You are right, I should speak for my self. It sounds as if you work for Apple to me, though, as they seem to be the only people who don't want Flash to work on an iPad as they have problems with Adobe. I do understand that HTML5 might be preferable to Apple for future development, but it seems odd to me that they don't give people what they ecpect when they buy their device, namely a device that always works.

  • 16. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (38,405 points)

    Almost everyone here is a volunteer. You can tell the Hosts, who work for Apple by their purple apple avatar.

     

    I think you also misread my post. I don't care, as in have no preference one way or the other, about Flash on iOS. I also have no particular opinions about Adobe. Once again, you're generalizing about who wants what and why.

     

    Other people on these forums disagree with me but I believe that people should do a little research before they plunk down $500 plus dollars on a tool to make sure that it meets their requirements.

  • 17. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Welshcloggy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So you think it is acceptable for a company who knows how to make their device work (as on the Apple MacBook Flash works) to sell it knowing that it will give their consumers grief? You think it is the customers fault when a product doesn't do what it says on the box and in the advertizing? Or should those glossy pictures that are shown on the tv night after night not also tell us the drawbacks of buying it? The fault is with the customer when the product doesn't work, that is a good one!

  • 18. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (38,405 points)

    Please show me where, in any advertising Apple has ever done, it says that Flash works on any iOS device. Please show me ads for ANY product that list all the potential drawbacks to owning the product.

     

    Given the number of iPads sold, the high demand for the second version, I also question your idea that the device is one that will "give their customers grief". The device works to spec. If people don't research ahead of time on a purchase that large or figure out within 14 days that it doesn't do what they want, yes, I think it's their fault that they have a device inappropriate to their needs. iPads have a high resale value, as well. No one is forcing anyone to buy, use or keep one.

  • 19. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Martin_UK Level 2 Level 2 (150 points)

    >> So you think it is acceptable for a company who knows how to make their device work (as on the Apple MacBook Flash works) to sell it knowing that it will give their consumers grief?

     

    Flash isn't Apple's device or product and the iPad runs a different OS to the MacBook. Apple can't go rewriting Abode's software for them.

     

    >> You think it is the customers fault when a product doesn't do what it says on the box and in the advertizing?

     

    There's no advertising or info on the box which says Flash works on the iPad.

     

    >> The fault is with the customer when the product doesn't work, that is a good one!

     

    The fault is with the consumer for not checking their intended purchase meets their needs.

  • 20. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,705 points)

    Meg St._Clair wrote:

     

    There are also people who are actively opposed to the idea.

    Yes, it is unfortunate that there are those that don't like to use Flash and are therefore opposed to anyone else using it.

  • 21. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,705 points)

    Martin_UK wrote:

     

    The fault is with the consumer for not checking their intended purchase meets their needs.

    However, if a product does meet the consumer's needs but, in the opinion of the consumer, an improvement can be made, should the consumer be prohibited from making his/her feelings known?

  • 22. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (38,405 points)

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Frequently, those opinions include what they think other people should or should not do. I'm fine with that. In my opinion, I don't have to care about anyone else's opinions. Except my mother's.

  • 23. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Martin_UK Level 2 Level 2 (150 points)

    >> However, if a product does meet the consumer's needs but, in the opinion of the consumer, an improvement can be made, should the consumer be prohibited from making his/her feelings known?

     

    I never even came close to suggesting the OP or anyone else couldn't or shouldn't ask for additions or refinements.

     

    The person I replied to was looking to place blame on someone for there being no Flash on iOS and for him/her having something which didn't suit their needs. IMO the fault is theirs for not checking before putting the cash down.

     

    That doesn't stop anyone else wanting Flash. Personally having reviewed a number of Android phones with supposed Flash support I'm not convinced it'll be the experience people expect/hope for but so long as I can opt-out/switch it off it would cause me no probs for Flash to be an option.

     

    Suspect it'll never happen tho.

  • 24. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,705 points)

    I'd be more shocked than anyone if Flash ever came to IOS.  I've maintained for quite some time that it's an Apple/Adobe pizzing contest and I believe that both parties have dug in their heels.

     

    I have zero personal experience with Android devices but I do use Flash on my Mac on a regular basis and have never had any difficulties.  However, even if it is lousy on IOS, it's better than nothing when there is content that I need or want that is supplied only via Flash.  Yes, I can go to my computer but I would like the convenience of not having to do so.

     

    Last fall, I didn't care one way or another but, since then my medical condition made it necessary for me to obtain web information that's supplied via Flash.

  • 25. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Martin_UK Level 2 Level 2 (150 points)

    >> I have zero personal experience with Android devices but I do use Flash on my Mac on a regular basis and have never had any difficulties.

     

    I've reviewed an Android phone every month for the past 4-5 months, even Flash content on sites like the BBC isn't always compatible with the version on the handsets.

     

    How Flash works on a laptop/desktop versus how it works on a mobile is VERY different. It may be different again on a tablet.

     

    If it's available that's fine by me, if it's not that's also fine by me. I have no preference one way or the other!

  • 26. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,370 points)

    Welshcloggy wrote:

     

    I, like everyone else on this forum would like Flash to work on my iPad. It is very disappointing that Apple made a web access and consuming devise that only supports the format they want customers to use, rather than what everyone on the Web is using. It is not good enough to tell customers, who bought a consuming device that they can only use it to consume some of the Web content as it is produced in the format that Apple likes. I don't want to power up my Pc or MacBook every time the 'do not support flash' box pops up. Very poor customer support, Apple. Would like you to tell us how to use Flash, not HTML5.

    I don't want Flash on my iPad, and I, like you am a consumer who can buy a device that supports Flash when I want one, as can you.

  • 27. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,370 points)

    The fault lies with the consumer who chooses not to research what they are buying before they buy it.

  • 28. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,705 points)

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    The fault lies with the consumer who chooses not to research what they are buying before they buy it.

    Why are you trying to assign "fault?"  If a product does meet the consumer's needs but, in the opinion of the consumer, an improvement can be made, should the consumer be prohibited from making his/her feelings known?

  • 29. Re: How do I get flash player on iPad.
    Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,705 points)

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Welshcloggy wrote:

    I don't want Flash on my iPad, and I, like you am a consumer who can buy a device that supports Flash when I want one, as can you.

    No one has ever suggested that using Flash should be mandatory.

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