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Lion - no more "save as" in text edit

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gsusser Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Jul 23, 2011 3:59 PM

Or am I blind?

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  • the707 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jul 31, 2011 1:32 PM (in response to gsusser)

    Same here. Upgraded to Lion and now I can no longer save anything that has already been saved. I am trying to save a text file to a new loacation but there is no "Save" or "Save As". How am I supposed to save my document to a chosen location?

     

    Super frustrating. Can I have my $30 back? This is not progress...

  • Don Archibald Level 10 Level 10 (101,125 points)
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    Jul 31, 2011 1:52 PM (in response to the707)

    Apparently it's one of the 'advances' in human interface studf.

     

    Autosave is the default in Lion, hence the absence of a Save function after the initial doc creation and naming.

     

    Apparenty some of the "old" Save As function's abilities are made available through the Export or Duplicate function in Lion.

     

    And then there's "versions"....

     

    Personally, I like Save As, especially in a graphics app.

     

    More info here -

    http://web.me.com/pondini/AppleTips/LionChanges.html

    http://www.macworld.com/article/161357/2011/07/how_to_make_lion_more_like_snow_l eopard.html

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/15407131#15407131

  • synthview Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Aug 2, 2011 7:31 AM (in response to gsusser)

    Hello,

    I've noticed the lack of "save as" today too...

    I've really disappointed by this "new" ergonomy. They want to make desktops to be similar to an iPad. Maybe it can be fanny for the common user, but for professionals it's a real pain!

     

    And even from a conceptual point of view, "save as" it's not at all comparable with versioning. Someone must be drunk at Cupertino! Or that was an idea of some guy from Marketing, they're always up to this dumb ideas.

    Is there any way to create a petition to ask Apple reintroduce these options?

  • Red Robin Level 3 Level 3 (560 points)
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    Aug 2, 2011 7:41 AM (in response to Don Archibald)

    The critical question is how OFTEN does Save happen automatically in Lion? Or is it just Save As which has been dropped?

     

    In Adobe CS and Logic Studio I want to Save immediately after getting the project to a state I want to protect/keep before progressing on.

  • synthview Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Aug 2, 2011 7:51 AM (in response to gsusser)

    but "save as" can be used to start from a file and go to a different direction, expecially with text files.

    I've discovered you can click on "file" > "duplicate" now but there is no shortcut to do it, and you have an alert "are you really sure..?"

    it symply makes me loosing time

  • baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (59,145 points)
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    Aug 2, 2011 12:26 PM (in response to gsusser)

    Welcome to the iOS world of nonthinking, wherein the OS does everything for you. Salient details described in http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/auto-save.html and http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4753

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  • William H. Magill1 Level 2 Level 2 (200 points)
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    Aug 2, 2011 12:35 PM (in response to baltwo)

    Sorry, but this is the world of the Nanny state --- you do things the way Apple envisions them or you're out of luck... call it "Redmond-think" takes over Cuppertino.

     

    Lion is so Windows like as to no longer provide a reason to switch.

     

    And the "save" feature is even worse... try saving new files (like cutouts from an existing image) ... It defaults to your desktop, and Png. If you decide to change the file location and name from Undefined, and THEN change the file type to jpg from png ... you have to choose your location and rename the file AGAIN... it forgot that fast.

  • Red Robin Level 3 Level 3 (560 points)
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    Aug 2, 2011 4:25 PM (in response to William H. Magill1)

    ^

    If it Saves to the Destop by default it's doubly worse for someone like me who has the Mac OS X installed on an internal Solid State Drive but works with all data files on the internal other HD. The Desktop is part of the Finder and OS and anything deposited there needs trashing because moving it only moves a duplicate. Double double duplicates!!

     

      Not clever!

  • etrauer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Aug 23, 2011 6:24 AM (in response to gsusser)

    What is going on with our decision power? I'm having much more steps to edit a simple .xml file!!!
    Hey Apple, I'm using Word to edit, it's amazing!!! Please, back "Save As"

  • AppleMan1958 Level 7 Level 7 (27,335 points)
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    Aug 23, 2011 6:35 AM (in response to gsusser)

    Here is how to do a Save As in Lion.

     

    1. With your original textedit file open, click FILE/DUPLICATE.

    2. Select the duplicate. It will have the original file name plus the workd "copy"

    3. Click FILE/SAVE...

    4. You will get the SAVE AS dialog box.

     

    If you do not save the copy, it will prompt you when you exit it.

  • synthview Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Aug 23, 2011 6:39 AM (in response to AppleMan1958)

    4 steps where 2 would be enough. It doesn’t seem to be a progress.

  • baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (59,145 points)
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    Aug 23, 2011 12:29 PM (in response to Red Robin)

    If you want to report this issue to Apple's engineering, send a bug report or an enhancement request via its Bug Reporter system. To do this, register as an Apple Developer—it's free and available for all Mac users and gets you a look at some development software. Since you already have an Apple username/ID, use that. Once a member, go to Apple BugReporter and file your bug report or enhancement request. You'll get a response and a follow-up number; thus, starting a dialog with engineering.

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  • Don Archibald Level 10 Level 10 (101,125 points)
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    Aug 23, 2011 12:52 PM (in response to synthview)

    Another example of designers (the folk who determine the features of apps) deciding they know better than I do what it is that I want to do, what my workflow should be, how I should do things.

     

    Nuts. "Smart" apps, functions, etc., are so dumb they get in the way.

     

    That's one of the reasons I liked like OS 9 so much - its flexibility.

     

    Bring back the choices - let me decide my own path. I'll guarantee you I'll find a more efficient way to do things than someone else deciding for me.

  • baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (59,145 points)
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    Aug 23, 2011 12:49 PM (in response to Don Archibald)

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