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How do I uninstall Lion

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  • Jason Watkins Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Jul 23, 2011 6:39 AM (in response to nickers831)

    Upgrading a computer's operating system is not a trivial matter. One is changing the system on which the computer's hardware is used and the software programs run. Also, the upgrade is not mandatory, it is discretionary. Apple did not make anyone upgrade their operating system, the choice is upon the user. One should ALWAYS make a backup of their data, to an external storage medium, on a regular basis. Especially, if an operating system upgrade is to be performed. Asking that is not a stretch of any situation. Since a restore would require wiping the hard drive, reinstalling the former operating system, a restore of user data is the next logical step.

     

    Waiting, for manufacturers to catch-up and produce drivers for the new OS is always a good idea. Many device manufacturers have such a small customer base in Apple users that they often do not obtain beta version of OS X software for development/testing, it is just not a priority for them. Those same folks often do not pre-create new drivers for new versions of Windows either (HP).

     

    I don't mean to be pedantic, but this is not Apple's problem. Waiting and a little bit of background-checking may have prevented what seems to be a bad upgrade experience. I am far from an Apple apologist and often call them out on some of their questionable choices.

  • john strass Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jul 23, 2011 10:13 AM (in response to thomas_r.)

    The problem with my late 2008 MBA is that I bought it with the max RAM (2 gig).  So 10.7 will never wok on this computer..

     

    I do agree with one poster "I think Apple should be offering a 'Restore to Snow Leopard' option NOW."

     

     

    As for my ordeal, I went back to 10.5, then was (with the help of telephone support - Thanks Apple!!)  able to get my 10.6.8 Time Capsukl backup installed.  

     

    Interestingly, my brush with 10.7 did leave a mark on my computer: when I was in 10.5 and restarted with command, it gave me a choice of a HD option - restore....I just cant remember what that was, but the tech told me thats the lagacy of having run it throught 10.7 and then back to 10.5

     

     

    Than you all for your help.

     

    There should be a system check warning before you try to dowload 10.7 for $29 in the first place.... BTW, where is my refund???

  • Jason Watkins Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Jul 23, 2011 10:29 AM (in response to john strass)

    I asked the same question. Apparently all AppStore sales are final. With no trial option available for the offerings, I am all-set with purchasing from the AppStore.

  • Barry Hemphill Level 7 Level 7 (33,215 points)
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    Jul 23, 2011 10:46 AM (in response to john strass)
    The problem with my late 2008 MBA is that I bought it with the max RAM (2 gig).  So 10.7 will never wok on this computer..

    Just out of idle curiosity, what brings you to that conclusion?

     

     

    Barry

    iMac, Mac OS X (10.7), 4 GB memory,DSL
  • stevenfrommaysville Calculating status...
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    Jul 23, 2011 10:46 PM (in response to PTBud)

    I just lost my partition by trying to upgrade to Lion blowing away the other side of my partition where all of my Windows 7 files and applications are.  This will take 2 weeks to repair and cost $1,000s of dollars in lost time and lost sales.  Why is it I can install Windows 7 on one side of a partition and not affect the other side but when I try to install Lion on one side of a partition it reaches across to destroy whats on the other side.  I will be selling this Macbook pro 17 and going back to Windows where you can depend on things.

  • Jason Watkins Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Jul 24, 2011 6:48 AM (in response to Barry Hemphill)

    I would go with a clean install for that machine. 2GB is the minimum requirement for Lion and in my experience it uses all of that. SAV not withstanding, the Mac is using 1.7GB of RAM just sitting. That wouldn't leave much for anything else like a web browser or MS Word. If it were my Mac, I'd stay with 10.6, or upgrade the RAM (if possible).

  • B. Bruce Brinson Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Jul 24, 2011 5:13 PM (in response to Kappy)

    Actually - my machine now won't use the Snow Leopard install disk as a startup option - everything is as normal - I can select the SL install disk - but then, it fails to starup.  Spins the DVD, thinks, goes to sleep.

     

    Now what?

  • Justin High Calculating status...
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    Jul 24, 2011 5:18 PM (in response to thomas_r.)

    I wish I could say this to the customers I support! I'm serious, not trying to be rude. I sometimes wish I could just tell them that they made the mistake.

  • MacEP Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Jul 24, 2011 5:26 PM (in response to thomas_r.)

    Just to keep this balanced. I live in iWorks and use large keynote presentations (an Apple product by they way). Lion upgrade has made keynote unusable with frequent spinning wheels and hangs/crashes.  I spent an hour with apple on the phone and they replicated the problem on their end by putting together a large presentation.  Now, I have to be happy with their response (they have elevated this and will be calking me Wed to follow up) but you have to be a little bit peeved that an Apple product as basic as iWork doesn't work.

  • Jason Watkins Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Jul 24, 2011 5:28 PM (in response to MacEP)

    Latest version of iWork? Albeit, Apple needs to kick-out an update for that product.

  • Jason Watkins Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Jul 24, 2011 5:31 PM (in response to B. Bruce Brinson)

    Can you use the Option key or Command + C to select the boot volume at start-up?

  • Jason Watkins Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Jul 24, 2011 5:34 PM (in response to Justin High)

    I can understand your position and am glad I am not in it. Sugar-coating the obvious does nothing to fix the problem.

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Jul 24, 2011 5:38 PM (in response to B. Bruce Brinson)

    B. Bruce Brinson wrote:

     

    Actually - my machine now won't use the Snow Leopard install disk as a startup option - everything is as normal - I can select the SL install disk - but then, it fails to starup.  Spins the DVD, thinks, goes to sleep.

    Be sure it's the right disk; either the one that came with that particular Mac, or a retail (white) one.

     

    Try cleaning it.

     

    What happens if you insert the disk, but boot up while holding the Option key down?  Does it appear as one of the options?

  • B. Bruce Brinson Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Jul 24, 2011 5:46 PM (in response to Pondini)

    Hi Pondini - thanks for your resonse - most appreciated.

    Yes, if press Option, the Snow Leopard install disk appears as an option.  If I select it, ti basically repeats the behavior observed if I hold down C during the startup process - DVD spins, thinks, then the MBP fails to boot.  No error,etc, the computer just goes dark, and has to be restarted.   I know the Install disk works, aaa I just used it yesterday to install SL on an older MacBook, upgrading it from OS 10.5, in preparation for updating IT to Lion.

     

    Thanks again,

    Bruce

  • Eric Westby Level 4 Level 4 (1,795 points)
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    Jul 24, 2011 5:59 PM (in response to john strass)

    john strass wrote:

     

    I'm pretty upset with apple for the first time in my 25 years of using macs.    My Macbook air late 2008 (2gig ram, 128 gig flash drive)is now so darn slow that it is nearly unusable now that i've loaded Lion.

     

    Be sure the slowness isn't simply due to Spotlight indexing. You can tell if it's still indexing because there's a dot visible in the Spotlight menu bar icon.

     

    My MacBook Pro is far older than yours -- 2006-era, to be exact -- and if anything Lion feels faster than Snow Leopard. There's something specific slowing you down.

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