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Q: MAC OS LION FAQ's

I've been answering the same question over and over again. Please spend a little bit of time to look around before posting. Chances are, someone else has already posted and had the same question answered. myimagination.

 

Topics covered in the FAQ.

0. Cautions / Before Upgrading.

1. Apple UpToDate Program.

2. How many Macs?

3. Re-downloading from App Store?

4. Reinstalling Lion. (Clean Install)

5. Making a Lion DVD.

6. Java

(further updates will be posted when i'm online)

 

 

 

// CAUTION! //

- Please note: SNOW LEOPARD 10.6.6 is a REQUIREMENT for LION and

  please check that you mac meets the minimum system requirements for Lion before upgrading.

 

  • Mac computer with an Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or Xeon processor
  • 2GB of memory
  • OS X v10.6.6 or later (v10.6.8 recommended)
  • 7GB of available space

 

- Some applications may not work or have compatability problems, it is advised that you check before upgrading.

 

- ALWAYS BACK UP YOUR DATA! Time capsule or External HDD.

 

 

 

1. Apple's UpToDate Program.

"The Mac OS X Lion Up-To-Date upgrade is available at no additional charge via the Mac App Store to all customers who purchased a qualifying new Mac system from Apple or an Apple Authorized Reseller on or after June 6, 2011. Users must request their Up-To-Date upgrade within 30 days of purchase of their Mac computer. Customers who purchase a qualifying Mac between June 6, 2011 and the date when Lion is available in the Mac App Store will have 30 days from Lion’s official release date to make a request."

http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/.

2. How many macs for one download of Lion?

As long as you are logged in with the same APPLE ID, you can download it to any Mac you own. No need for family-packs.

 

3. Re-downloading?

In the Mac App Store, option (alt) click the "Install" or "Download" button and a dropdown menu will let you re-download it again for free*.

*internet download charges still apply.

 

4. Reinstalling Lion using Recovery HD. (clean install)

Use the new Recovery HD. Reboot whilst holding down Option (alt) and "R".

Select Recovery HD and follow the installation.

 

5. Lion Install DVD.


To do a CLEAN install of Mac OS Lion you can also make your own Lion Install Disk.

// YOU MUST HAVE A LEGAL COPY OF MAC OS LION 10.7 FROM THE MAC APP STORE! //


BURNING A INSTALL DISK.

 

WARNING: BURN BEFORE INSTALLING


1. Locate the "Install Mac OS Lion 10.7" app (from your Applications or Download folder) and copy/drag to desktop.

2. Right-click and show package contents.

3. Open "Contents" folder > Shared Support.

4. Copy the "InstallESD.dmg" file to your Desktop and burn in to a DVD. Check (Tick) the "Verify Burn Data" option.

 

INSTALLING LION USING DISK.

Restart you Mac while holding the option (alt) key down and follow the installation process.

 

6. Java for Lion

Download link: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1421



 

Infomation here will be updated. Feel free to link to this discussion page but please do not just copy and paste without reference to me.

Leave a comment to add your FAQ's so that others in the Apple Community can benefit. I will reference to you.

 

Have I made a mistake? Please comment below and I will fix my errors.

 

Just to be safe, follow these instructions at you own risk. Don't kill me. Thankyou.

myimagination

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8), Mid 2010

Posted on Jul 25, 2011 4:56 AM

by myimagination,Solvedanswer
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A:

A useful link to Apple's Lion Support:

http://www.apple.com/support/lion/

 

Please note this FAQ will no longer be updated as frequently,

but i'll be around the Apple Support Community to help.

 

myimgination

Posted on Jul 27, 2011 1:33 AM

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  • by Graham Perrin,Helpful

    Graham Perrin Graham Perrin Jul 26, 2011 1:32 PM in response to myimagination
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    Mac OS X
    Jul 26, 2011 1:32 PM in response to myimagination

    I recommend caution to any user who used, or will use, the ESD alone for 10.7 (Build 11A511) — without Apple's .app — to produce a USB flash drive or DVD. For your consideration:

     

    http://identi.ca/conversation/76905136#notice-79505996 —

    #Lion #FileVault 2 users: never attempt reinstallation of Mac OS X 10.7 from a Recovery OS where the #USB flash drive or #DVD was #hacked …

    Thank you

  • by Lanny,

    Lanny Lanny Jul 26, 2011 1:43 PM in response to Graham Perrin
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    Jul 26, 2011 1:43 PM in response to Graham Perrin

    Graham,

     

    Well, it was worth the effort, but no cigar:

     

    Screen Shot 2011-07-26 at 4.40.30 PM.PNG

  • by RaiMan,Helpful

    RaiMan RaiMan Jul 27, 2011 1:25 AM in response to Graham Perrin
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    Jul 27, 2011 1:25 AM in response to Graham Perrin

    I moved the installation.dmg from inside the install-lion.app to a 4GB USB-Stick using the disk utility (on a SnowLeo).

     

    on a SnowLeo equipped with the USB stick holding ALT at start up shows the USB stick as one startup volume. Use it and select "New Lion install": worked perfectly for me in any cases.

     

    the starup menu contains some more options, that can be used to e.g. prepare for a clean install.

  • by myimagination,

    myimagination myimagination Jul 27, 2011 1:27 AM in response to myimagination
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    Jul 27, 2011 1:27 AM in response to myimagination

    It seems I've made an error with the shortcut to boot from a DVD.

    The correct ways is to hold Option - or - Command and R.

    Thankyou babowa for picking up my error.

  • by myimagination,Solvedanswer

    myimagination myimagination Jul 27, 2011 1:33 AM in response to myimagination
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    Jul 27, 2011 1:33 AM in response to myimagination

    A useful link to Apple's Lion Support:

    http://www.apple.com/support/lion/

     

    Please note this FAQ will no longer be updated as frequently,

    but i'll be around the Apple Support Community to help.

     

    myimgination

  • by Graham Perrin,

    Graham Perrin Graham Perrin Jul 27, 2011 2:12 AM in response to Lanny
    Level 2 (259 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jul 27, 2011 2:12 AM in response to Lanny

    The pictured topic do I have to pay twice for OS X lion since I have a laptop and desktop discusses none of the things for which I suggest caution. In that topic, so far, all is good.

     

    Clarification

     

    Some people take risks with home-produced bootable media not provided by Apple. The risk-taking:

     

    • began long before Apple released 10.7 (Build 11A511) with a primary focus on download
    • might continue until Apple provides Lion (maybe something greater than 11A511) on a bootable USB thumb drive
    • might continue after Apple provides Lion on bootable media.

    Metaphorically

     

    I can stack some milk crates, drape velvet over the stack, sit on it, call it a chair. To a degree, I can rock back and forth. If I rock too far, the thing will collapse, I might knock myself unconscious:


    • it is not a rocking chair.

     

    From an image of a disk (a .dmg) I can create a disk, boot from it, call it a bootable disk. To a degree, I can do things with it. If I do some things, the system might become unusable:


    • my home-produced bootable thing hacked from a part of Apple's installer is not Apple's rocking installer.

     

    Test results

     

    With a hunch that damage might be caused, I tested just one thing. The first run of the test did cause damage.

     

    I doubt that the many people who promote hacked use of the ESD (electronic software distribution) performed more advanced tests.

     

    Please

     

    Begin above with the conversation in Identi.ca, not only the quote; please read everything below the part of the conversation that offers caution, follow links from each lower part of the conversation …

  • by Graham Perrin,

    Graham Perrin Graham Perrin Jul 27, 2011 2:09 AM in response to Lanny
    Level 2 (259 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jul 27, 2011 2:09 AM in response to Lanny

    … duplicate post deleted (some problem with Apple Support Communities).

  • by myimagination,

    myimagination myimagination Jul 27, 2011 2:20 AM in response to Graham Perrin
    Level 1 (30 points)
    Jul 27, 2011 2:20 AM in response to Graham Perrin

    So to sum it up, BUY and USE the Apple sold USB thumb drive when it available in August as THE safe option instead of the home-produced media (i mentioned above). I would like to change my original post but it seems I am no longer able to modify it.

  • by RaiMan,

    RaiMan RaiMan Jul 27, 2011 2:34 AM in response to Graham Perrin
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    Jul 27, 2011 2:34 AM in response to Graham Perrin

    I produced a bootable 4GB USB stick using disk utility and the install-lion.dmg contained in the install.app under SnowLeo.

     

    Installing Lion booting from that stick worked perfectly on 4 different machines. I did not try a DVD, but should be the same.

     

    So the warning should be: use the well defined way how to produce a new bootable medium from a disk image, containing a bootable system: use disk utility !!!

  • by Graham Perrin,

    Graham Perrin Graham Perrin Jul 27, 2011 2:36 AM in response to myimagination
    Level 2 (259 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jul 27, 2011 2:36 AM in response to myimagination

    … Apple sold USB thumb drive …

     

    +1

     

    … home-produced media. …

     

    Media not provided by Apple is fine.

     

    See for example Apple's PDF attachment to Apple's [Apple] Mac OS X Lion Upgrade Information (2011-06-17), in particular Deploying Lion.

     

    If (within the terms of a license/agreement) a customer wishes to use a DVD or USB thumb drive to copy the whole installer, that's fine.

     

    Clarification

     

    Problems may arise from people ignoring the installer .app as a whole. Nowhere does Apple recommend ignoring the whole. Nowhere does Apple recommend using the .dmg part of the .app for 11A511 in isolation to create something removable and bootable.

     

    I know well a method to quickly work around at least one situation in which a home-produced bootable USB flash drive left a system unusable. That method is off-topic.

     

    The longer method is far longer and potentially frustrating.

     

    It will happier for everyone if people do not risk putting themselves in situations such as this

     

    You maybe replied to my previous message whilst it was incomplete; Apple Support Communities seemed to cause some loss then duplication. I encourage readers to follow the links from my microblog on Identica.

     

    Thanks again!

    Graham

  • by Graham Perrin,

    Graham Perrin Graham Perrin Jul 27, 2011 2:43 AM in response to RaiMan
    Level 2 (259 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jul 27, 2011 2:43 AM in response to RaiMan

    RaiMan wrote:

    … the warning should be: use the well defined way how to produce a new bootable medium from a disk image, containing a bootable system: use disk utility !!!

     

    Sorry, no, it's not so simple.

     

    I did use Disk Utility to produce my USB flash drive. With that drive and with a hunch of what to test, I quickly and easily turned a system that was previously good into a system that was completely unusable.

     

    A good number of people might not encounter such difficulties, but are you (as a promoter of home-produced bootable media) willing to provide technical support to people whose systems do become unusable as a result of your promotion?

     

    Warnings should take account of things that are necessarily discussed elsewhere. Please follow the links from fuller conversation on Identi.ca …

  • by woodmeister50,

    woodmeister50 woodmeister50 Jul 27, 2011 5:25 AM in response to myimagination
    Level 5 (5,500 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jul 27, 2011 5:25 AM in response to myimagination

    Those with problems using USB might consider the fact

    that the USB stick itself may be at fault.  Not all USB sticks

    work well as bootable media.  And can generate corruption

    even if they appear to boot cleanly.

  • by lisaroser,

    lisaroser lisaroser Jul 27, 2011 11:59 AM in response to myimagination
    Level 1 (16 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jul 27, 2011 11:59 AM in response to myimagination

    Hi myimagination!

     

    I am specifically sending a link to you because after reading some of your posts, I think you can help me. You seem to have a good handle on some of these Lion issues and eventhough this one seems outside the FAQ realm, I think you can help me find an answer.

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3217523

     

    I hope this is not an inconvenience and I truly appreciate it.

     

    Have a great day,

     

    AppleLisa Rose

     

     

  • by Graham Perrin,

    Graham Perrin Graham Perrin Jul 28, 2011 8:15 AM in response to woodmeister50
    Level 2 (259 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jul 28, 2011 8:15 AM in response to woodmeister50

    The flash drive that I used for testing was well tested immediately before my test.

     

    Immediatly after my use of the hacked USB flash drive, the FileVault 2 system to which I reinstalled was unusable. To me, the test result was an unmistakable echo of Apple's advice, "… Please note that Recovery HD must be … not an external Recovery HD …".

     

    A subsequent reinstallation to the same volume, using the Apple-installed Recovery OS, did not resolve the issue. My initial conclusion was that damage caused by use of a hacked USB flash drive is not easily reversible.

     

    (What Apple provides, what Apple writes to the minimal hidden partition on the hard disk alongside the Core Storage encrypted volume, is designed more for proper reinstallation than for attempting to repair damage caused by hacks.)

     

    On a different computer with FileVault 2 enabled, reinstallation using the method recommended by Apple worked flawlessly first time.

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