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How do you turn off the leather look in iCal and Address Book?

12751 Views 93 Replies Latest reply: Jul 21, 2012 6:04 PM by Ignatz RSS
  • Richard Hutto Calculating status...

    Must say I disagree with most of the comments on this thread. I think the leather look as well as the address book look great.

  • DanielTobias Calculating status...

    Bob - I'm afraid your point is facile even if it is well-meant.

     

    As an aesthetic design solution literal metaphors in computer graphics have been out of date for decades, even if language and naming conventions don't always reflect this.  You probably talk about going to the movies.  It doesn't mean you're distinguishing that from a visit to a display of still photographs.

     

    The problem with the new Address Book is that it fails as a skeuomorph.  Read John Siracusa's perceptive analysis of this here at Ars Technica:   http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars/5

     

    As John rightly observes

     

    "Address Book goes so far in the direction of imitating a physical analog that it starts to impair the identification of standard controls...  the amazing detail of the appearance implies functionality that doesn't exist. Pages can't be turned by dragging, and even if they could, the number of pages on either side of the spine never changes. The window can't be closed like a book, either. That red bookmark can't be pulled up or down or removed. (Clicking it actually turns the page backwards to reveal the list of groups. Did you guess that?) The three-pane view (groups → people → detail) is gone, presumably because a book can't show three pages at once. Within each paper "page" sits, essentially, an excerpt from the user interface of the previous version of Address Book. It's a mixed metaphor that sends mixed signals."

     

    Or as I said, less elegantly, the "book" metaphor is counter-intuitive and confusing.

  • TheSmokeMonster Level 4 Level 4 (3,240 points)

    Really? There are so many other things wrong with Lion then iCal and Address book, the two simplist things in the world.

     

     

    "This is a book. It opens, like this."

    Screen Shot 2011-07-23 at 5.50.51 PM.png

  • Thebestplacehere Level 3 Level 3 (700 points)

    Can't be turn off can it?

  • TheSmokeMonster Level 4 Level 4 (3,240 points)

    this question is better reserved for http://www.macthemes.net/ if you are so aesthetically displeased. The people there work on changing the whole UI design when it comes down to it.

  • l3g3nd4ryf0x Calculating status...

    This real-life look and feel seems to me more like the infamous Microsoft Bob than a cool iOS app... moreover this one looks like an actual object that a few people still use nowadays because it is evidently inconvenient with respect to electronic address books!

     

    By the way: yes, there is "Book" in the app's name, but I didn't notice anybody complaining about the Trash because it does not resemble an actual bunch of garbage with trashed PDFs really smelling like rotten bananas!

     

    And I haven't ever seen anybody licking the stamp's icon of Mail either, only because, well, that's what's "intuitive" to do when you want to post real mails

     

    Real-life metaphor does not always win the day, and this brand new Address Book is rushing for the medal of bad taste. IMHO, of course!

  • TheSmokeMonster Level 4 Level 4 (3,240 points)

    http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/23/change-ical-leather-interface-back-to-aluminum-in -os-x-lion/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+osxdaily+ %28OS+X+Daily%29

     

    as I thought, you can go into the theme of ical and change it by changing the texture image. Not on MacThemes but these sorts of things are all over mac themes if you really want to change the UI.

     

    @l3g3nd4ryf0x: I've never seen MS do leather binding before. I have seen iOS mimick a whole book and bookshelf or the calculator with a faux plastic look. I've also seen address book (for ages) have this leather binding for the icon in contacts). This is totally not the worst thing about Lion and definitely not uncharacteristic of what we are used to or what people of iOS are used to, which lion is mimicking. But here's the link anyway. I've seen stamp licking gestures in an April fools gag turned real for gmail.  I bet you'll see a lot more faux leather on websites and on designs.

  • Dirk Calculating status...

    You can go back to the aluminum view. works nicely...

     

    http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/23/change-ical-leather-interface-back-to-aluminum-in -os-x-lion/

     

    Have fun!

  • nathannookie Calculating status...

    Apple has created some amazing apps... Apps that are better, in most respects, than what you find on a PC and about as professional as apps get.. apps like Final Cut, Aperture, Garage Band and so many more.

     

    An app that manages your time, contacts, and e-mail, is essential to most users, and they've done a good job with Mail for Lion.  So why, with all their billions, do they not create a suite that rivals Outlook?

     

    Why don't I just use Outlook Mac 2011?  Because it doesn't play well with Apple's existing mail, calendar, and address book, and the connection with the upcoming iCloud and the existing MobileMe.  MS has already stated that the calendar in Outlook Mac doesn't sync with MobileMe, so it's useless to me..... Nor do I want to go back to using Microsoft Applications.

     

    Why don't I use Contacterizer or the others?  Because I don't feel the quality is there, and many complain of bugs. Besides, something as vital as this, something that has to work with iCloud, should come from Apple. It would be nice if it was a part of iWork, but even if it weren't, I'd pay for it.

     

    I don't think it would take a huge investment for Apple to create a product that rivaled Outlook... and of course, had the benefit of working with iCloud and Mobile me and the existing iCal, Mail, and Address Book.

     

    How about it Steve Jobs?  You've been a hero to most of us for as long as I can remember... so why not either make Address Book better or create the suite?

     

    Thanks....

  • fnauta Calculating status...

    Just posted this:

     

    Dear people at Apple,

     

    I could file this under 'Design/ease of use' as well. The changes you've made to iCal and Address Book are really horrible from a efficiency/workflow point of view. I have lost a pane in Address Book, which makes it impossible to easily work with groups. In iCal I lost a pane as well, so I have no way of knowing which calendars are active or not, at least not without using the mouse.

    I seriously wonder if the people who designed this use these two apps themselves. It's really bad thinking, very un-Apple.

    So for iCal I've now bought BusyCal, which solves most of my problems. $30. Same price as Lion. Thank you Apple!

    For Address Book I haven't found an alternative yet, but I'm sure some developer will dive into this. Probably another $15.

     

    Really, what were you thinking?

  • TheSmokeMonster Level 4 Level 4 (3,240 points)

    why did you spend money on an app that's just as much as your os when I already gave you a link to change how native iCal looks?

  • DanielTobias Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Because as fnauta says it's not just the look - the horrible leather design is the least of it - it's the loss of functionality that makes the new iCal and Address Book so appalling.

     

    So can people stop posting and reposting that we can change to aluminium look. We know.  It's still crap.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,380 points)

    What you mean is "I don't like the way it looks" which (for you) justifies the critique, I don't have any issues with the way it looks so as far as I am concerned it can stay as it is.

  • DanielTobias Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    As an aesthetic design solution literal metaphors in computer graphics have been out of date for decades, even if language and naming conventions don't always reflect this.  You probably talk about going to the movies.  It doesn't mean you're distinguishing that from a visit to a display of still photographs.

     

    The problem with the new Address Book is that it fails as a skeuomorph.  Read John Siracusa's perceptive analysis of this here at Ars Technica:  http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars/5

     

    As John rightly observes

     

    "Address Book goes so far in the direction of imitating a physical analog that it starts to impair the identification of standard controls...  the amazing detail of the appearance implies functionality that doesn't exist. Pages can't be turned by dragging, and even if they could, the number of pages on either side of the spine never changes. The window can't be closed like a book, either. That red bookmark can't be pulled up or down or removed. (Clicking it actually turns the page backwards to reveal the list of groups. Did you guess that?) The three-pane view (groups → people → detail) is gone, presumably because a book can't show three pages at once. Within each paper "page" sits, essentially, an excerpt from the user interface of the previous version of Address Book. It's a mixed metaphor that sends mixed signals."

     

    Or as I said, less elegantly, the "book" metaphor is counter-intuitive and confusing.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,380 points)

    DanielTobias wrote:

     

    As an aesthetic design solution literal metaphors in computer graphics have been out of date for decades, even if language and naming conventions don't always reflect this.  You probably talk about going to the movies.  It doesn't mean you're distinguishing that from a visit to a display of still photographs.

     

    The problem with the new Address Book is that it fails as a skeuomorph.  Read John Siracusa's perceptive analysis of this here at Ars Technica:  http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars/5

     

    As John rightly observes

     

    "Address Book goes so far in the direction of imitating a physical analog that it starts to impair the identification of standard controls...  the amazing detail of the appearance implies functionality that doesn't exist. Pages can't be turned by dragging, and even if they could, the number of pages on either side of the spine never changes. The window can't be closed like a book, either. That red bookmark can't be pulled up or down or removed. (Clicking it actually turns the page backwards to reveal the list of groups. Did you guess that?) The three-pane view (groups → people → detail) is gone, presumably because a book can't show three pages at once. Within each paper "page" sits, essentially, an excerpt from the user interface of the previous version of Address Book. It's a mixed metaphor that sends mixed signals."

     

    Or as I said, less elegantly, the "book" metaphor is counter-intuitive and confusing.

    For you that is true, I have (as I said) no issues with it.

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