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When will we get rosetta on Lion

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Moosbach Calculating status...
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Jul 23, 2011 6:14 PM

I am using many software, wich requires rosetta. When will rosetta be available vor Lion?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7)
  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,010 points)
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    Jul 23, 2011 6:16 PM (in response to Moosbach)

    Well, your only good option is not to upgrade.  Rosetta does not exist on Lion and very likely never will.

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (23,930 points)
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    Jul 23, 2011 6:17 PM (in response to Moosbach)

    Never. If you want to use old software you must use the operating system that matches it.

  • Kappy Level 10 Level 10 (221,190 points)
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    Jul 23, 2011 6:18 PM (in response to Moosbach)

    Never. There will be no Rosetta from this point forward. Lion and its successors will no longer provide support for PPC-only software. You can check with the software developers for possible updates or look for suitable replacements.

  • Carlo TD Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)
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    Jul 23, 2011 6:20 PM (in response to Moosbach)

    take a look at this: http://youtu.be/MJhT3HAGog8

  • Kappy Level 10 Level 10 (221,190 points)
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    Jul 28, 2011 11:51 AM (in response to Moosbach)

    Sure. You can repartition your drive if you don't have a Boot Camp partition already on it.

     

    To resize the drive do the following:

     

    1. Open Disk Utility and select the drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list.

     

    2. Click on the Partition tab in the DU main window. You should see the graphical sizing window showing the existing partitions. A portion may appear as a blue rectangle representing the used space on a partition.

     

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    3. In the lower right corner of the sizing rectangle for each partition is a resizing gadget. Select it with the mouse and move the bottom of the rectangle upwards until you have reduced the existing partition enough to create the desired new volume's size. The space below the resized partition will appear gray. Click on the Apply button and wait until the process has completed.  (Note: You can only make a partition smaller in order to create new free space.)

     

    4. Click on the [+] button below the sizing window to add a new partition in the gray space you freed up. Give the new volume a name, if you wish, then click on the Apply button. Wait until the process has completed.

     

    You should now have a new volume on the drive.

     

    It would be wise to have a backup of your current system as resizing is not necessarily free of risk for data loss.  Your drive must have sufficient contiguous free space for this process to work.

  • chuckthetekkie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:04 PM (in response to Moosbach)

    I guess I won't be buying Lion until they include Rosetta as I have many PowerPC apps that either don't have an Intel version or I prefer the PowerPC version because it works better.

     

    My Granda will never buy an Intel Mac because they removed Classic support and he has hundreds of dollars invested in Classic apps that he prefers.

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,010 points)
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:10 PM (in response to chuckthetekkie)

    chuckthetekkie wrote:

     

    I guess I won't be buying Lion until they include Rosetta as I have many PowerPC apps that either don't have an Intel version or I prefer the PowerPC version because it works better.

     

    My Granda will never buy an Intel Mac because they removed Classic support and he has hundreds of dollars invested in Classic apps that he prefers.

    I would never buy a Mac for the same reason - it won't run my Apple-II software!  I paid $400 (in 1982 dollars) for my Apple-II version of Appleworks and I don't want to give it up.

  • Kappy Level 10 Level 10 (221,190 points)
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:19 PM (in response to Philly_Phan)

    "If a man makes a statement... And there is no woman present to hear him... Is he still wrong?"

     

    If a women makes a statement does any man really care?

  • Kappy Level 10 Level 10 (221,190 points)
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:22 PM (in response to chuckthetekkie)

    Your problem is solved. You will never own Lion because there will not be a Rosetta. Keep hanging on to the past.

  • Richard Wessels Level 2 Level 2 (240 points)
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:25 PM (in response to chuckthetekkie)

    It would go without saying that you will be waiting in vain then.  Apple has long since stated that they are no longer supporting the PPC platform.  They ended hardware level support nearly four years ago (or was it longer?).  And this year marks the final end for supporting the software.

     

    Apple has always been ready to push forward when they felt it was worth the effort to do so.  This has been Microsoft's main problem, and strength in some ways, over the years.  Continiously supporting older and older platforms year after year, when technology has progressed so far ahead of where we where just 3 years ago, is detrimental to the company and ultimately to the user.

     

    Yes, we all make sizable investments in your hardware and our software.  I am using an Early 2008 MBP.  I just learned that I am likely going to have to replace it next year at a cost of roughly $3,000.00, because there are now features in the OS that I can not make use of.  However, the machine I will get for that amount of money in 2012 will far outclass whatever I bought in 2008.

     

    Software in some ways moves even faster then hardware.  I know it is painful to have to consider purchasing replacement software.  But, that new software will undoubtably also have new features and functions that may well be usefull to you and may make you even more efficient, or make using them more enjoyable.

     

    To the point of never upgrading because you spent X amount of dollars on some software more then 6, 7, or even 10 years ago, seems foolish.  More likely then not, you will find better software available now, maybe for less money then way you spent back then.  And that is not even covering the issue of security updates and patches.

     

    This is the same mentality that lead to the issues when MS released Vista.  We has all been so used to XP (since we have been using it for 9+ years) that we just expected all of our hardware, drivers, and software to work with Vista..  We where all so intrasigent to change after that long a span between releases.  This goes for the PC makers as well.  In fact they where worse.  They simply used the same software and drivers they had created for XP and just slapped them into Vista.  Vista was not bad, so much as the software we where using with it was bad.  So it got a really bad name and many people got a really bad taste from it.  So the press attacked it as well and the rest is history.  Thankfully that paved the way for Windows 7 (which is mainly Vista tweaked) because we now had the new software for it and the new hardware, and the new drivers.

     

    Apple was smarter with Lion and Snow Leopard...  Starting the SL, they gave us the portents of what was to come.  They told us that this change was NOT long in coming and that we should all be ready.  They also let us all know that they will not continue to support something they consider outdated.  Lion was just the next step in a long chain of steps that went from PPC to Intel/PPC to Intel only to what I imagine will be Intel 64 Bit only in the next release.  At least they made the transition a lot easier to handle then a 10 year gap with the shock at the end.

     

    If you did not make the transition along with Apple, then yes, this is a major shock and one not easy to swallow, but you can not say they did not warn you, or try to bring you along.

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,010 points)
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:33 PM (in response to Kappy)

    Kappy wrote:

     

    "If a man makes a statement... And there is no woman present to hear him... Is he still wrong?"

     

    If a women makes a statement does any man really care?

    Naah!

  • Richard Wessels Level 2 Level 2 (240 points)
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:34 PM (in response to Kappy)

    Kappy, you are a level 10 user.  Presumably because you have been helpful in the past.  What sort of purpose does this statement have in the discourse of this discussion.

     

    Maybe it would be better if we where all a bit more civil and a bit less glib.  Maybe we could offer some advice or comfort to the other users who find change so hard to deal with, or just plain scarry.

     

    I am and always have been an early adopter, where my limited monetary resources allow, and one of the joys in this has been helping others to join me along the way.

     

    I would hope that you find the same joy in that as well.

  • Kappy Level 10 Level 10 (221,190 points)
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:42 PM (in response to Richard Wessels)

    You should really work on not being so condescending. If you object to my opinion on technical grounds, then comment on the technical matter. Ad hominum comments serve no purpose.

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