melican
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Q: is iDVD included with the new Lion iMacs?

Macrumors just posted this on the front page, and I want to make sure iDVD is included with the new iMacs (that come with Lion pre-installed).

 

from Macrumors front page:

"Apple is in the process of phasing out iWeb and iDVD and does not offer them for download via the Mac App Store or include them on the new MacBook Air and Mac mini."

 

And I notice on Apple's iMac page, they don't mention iDVD:

http://www.apple.com/imac/software.html#ilife

Posted on Jul 29, 2011 8:38 AM

by annefromcardiff,Solvedanswer
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A:

Well I've just received a new iMac with Lion installed and it has neither iWeb nor iDVD on it - I was looking on this discussion board to see if anyone else has found the same.

Posted on Jul 29, 2011 12:21 PM

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  • by rkaufmann87,

    rkaufmann87 rkaufmann87 Jul 29, 2011 8:53 AM in response to melican
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    Jul 29, 2011 8:53 AM in response to melican

    Yes it's included.

     

    NOTE: I stand corrected, I'm not sure. I would recommend calling the online Apple Store to find out though. The phone number is in the upper left corner of the store's home screen.

     

    Message was edited by: rkaufmann87

  • by melican,

    melican melican Jul 29, 2011 10:17 AM in response to rkaufmann87
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    Jul 29, 2011 10:17 AM in response to rkaufmann87

    I just called.  They said that iDVD and iWeb is included with all new computers.  I'd still like some verification from someone who has a new computer that came with Lion installed.

     

    Apple Support did confirm that neither iDVD nor iWeb are available from the online store.  Which makes me wonder how you are to reinstall those programs if you do a clean install of Lion.  (If you do a clean install, you download the other iLife applications from the online store.)

  • by annefromcardiff,Solvedanswer

    annefromcardiff annefromcardiff Jul 29, 2011 12:21 PM in response to melican
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    Jul 29, 2011 12:21 PM in response to melican

    Well I've just received a new iMac with Lion installed and it has neither iWeb nor iDVD on it - I was looking on this discussion board to see if anyone else has found the same.

  • by rkaufmann87,

    rkaufmann87 rkaufmann87 Jul 29, 2011 1:38 PM in response to annefromcardiff
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    Jul 29, 2011 1:38 PM in response to annefromcardiff

    I'm not surprised about iWeb but iDVD I wasn't expecting.

  • by melican,

    melican melican Jul 29, 2011 5:47 PM in response to annefromcardiff
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:47 PM in response to annefromcardiff

    Can I get anyone else to confirm this?  If it's true, I would have expected more than one person to be posting (and complaining) about it.

     

    Can anyone else who has a new iMac that came with Lion pre-installed confirm that it includes neither iDVD or iWeb?

     

    Thanks

  • by Belmana,Helpful

    Belmana Belmana Jul 29, 2011 7:24 PM in response to melican
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    Jul 29, 2011 7:24 PM in response to melican

    My new iMac came with Lion preinstalled and neither iWeb or iDVD are installed on it, and as there are no restore disks included and they are not available for download through the App store there is no way of installing them.

  • by melican,

    melican melican Jul 29, 2011 8:22 PM in response to Belmana
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    Jul 29, 2011 8:22 PM in response to Belmana

    Thanks.  That seems like a bad decision on Apple's part.  When I order my iMac, I might ask if they can include a free copy of the retail version of iLife '11.  I need iDVD.

  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Jul 29, 2011 9:29 PM in response to Belmana
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    Jul 29, 2011 9:29 PM in response to Belmana
    and as there are no restore disks included and they are not available

     

    That sounds like a foul-up at the Chinese factory to me.

     

    When your hard drive fails (notice I didn't say "IF"). The restore disk is necessary to rebuild and service your computer.

  • by melican,

    melican melican Jul 30, 2011 1:14 AM in response to Ziatron
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    Jul 30, 2011 1:14 AM in response to Ziatron

    No foul-up, computers with Lion pre-installed don't ship with restore discs.

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718

  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Jul 30, 2011 1:00 PM in response to melican
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    Jul 30, 2011 1:00 PM in response to melican
    computers with Lion pre-installed don't ship with restore discs.

     

    So if you have no Internet access, you are doomed.

     

    With Internet access you are faced with a complicated mess.

     

    All of this, to save a $0.50 DVD

  • by grahamlaws,

    grahamlaws grahamlaws Jul 30, 2011 1:16 PM in response to Ziatron
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    Jul 30, 2011 1:16 PM in response to Ziatron

    Hi Ziatron,

     

    Sorry this is badly off-topic, but i wanted to ask:

     

    I've seen you recommend iMovie 6  over the later versions ('08, '09, '11) due to an increase in picture quality when sending to iDVD, is this relevant to DV (tape) only? Or does it have any bearing on HD capture (AVCHD)?

     

    Thanks

     

    Graham

     

    Message was edited by: grahamlaws (typos)

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Jul 30, 2011 1:09 PM in response to Ziatron
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    Jul 30, 2011 1:09 PM in response to Ziatron

    I was looking at this thread yesterday because I also use iDVD extensively and decided to do some searching on the Apple website. It appears they're wanting to concentrate on iMovie (new "movie trailers" feature plus new themes) and FCP X which hasn't proven to be a big hit so far. And, since they've built in "share" to pretty much everywhere (Facebook, etc, etc) from both iPhoto and iMovie, I guess they think it's time to ditch iDVD.

     

    May I suggest that anyone using iDV D send some feedback about keeping it:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/idvd.html

     

    As for saving on a DVD, I don't believe that has anything to do with it; I believe it is Apple's idea to move us away from physical media and become MAS and "iCloud dependent". No install media, no external backups - only digital downloads and iCloud storage/backup. I'll stick with my LaCie's and SL if necessary (fortunately I have a fully functioning SL clone).

  • by Apple4Ever556,

    Apple4Ever556 Apple4Ever556 Jul 30, 2011 2:52 PM in response to babowa
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    Jul 30, 2011 2:52 PM in response to babowa

    if they get rid of IDVD Does this mean I Won't be able to Play anymore DVD's on My iMac Computer? I Have like 2000 DVD Movies at Home

  • by Robert Lane AZ,

    Robert Lane AZ Robert Lane AZ Jul 30, 2011 2:58 PM in response to Ziatron
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    Jul 30, 2011 2:58 PM in response to Ziatron

    Just to be clear about this:

     

    Lion currently is only available as a download from the App Store or, with a newly shipped Mac computer.

     

    Apple is going to release a USB thumb-drive with Lion on it for $69 USD soon, that would enable you to restore your computer if you have no internet access.

     

    However, you could easily avoid this problem by using Carbon Copy Cloner and an external drive to make clone of your entire main HDD for an immediate restoration anytime, internet or not.  CCC is fully compatible with 10.7 Lion.

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