Currently Being ModeratedJul 31, 2011 5:22 AM (in response to Martin Terp)
My shutdown issue has become intermittent. Now, most of the time it will shut down ok. I make sure all open programs are closed before shutting down my MBP. Last night when I shut down the computer, I closed all programs and shut down the computer and it made it to the gray screen with the little spinning circle (not beach ball) and didn't shut down. I was watching TV before going to to bed, so I thought I'd just let it stay in the gray screen mode to see if it eventually would shut down on its own. 40 minutes later, it still hadn't shut down and I had to finish the shut down process by pressing and holding the power button.
I have not reset the PRAM or the SMC Power Management. Actually didn't even know what those acronym's meant until they were mentioned here and I looked them up...
Currently Being ModeratedJul 31, 2011 8:59 PM (in response to KennyA)
I have reset the PRAM and all, but now it seems to shutdown fine on it's own. Only 1 out of 5 times it'll get stuck now. But bootup is still messed up. 9 times out of 10 it will come up with a login screen, even though I only have one user account and set it for automatic login. If I put in my password and continue, the menu bar is solid, not clear and airport is not functional.
I have to boot, come to the login screen, then click restart for it to be usable on nearly every boot where the iMac has been shutdown more than 2 hours. It is acting like it is hibernating rather than shutting down. Apple Care has no answers. I originally did the upgrade, then fresh installed twice. Resetting everything didn't help a lot, but after 1 week it mostly will shutdown like normal, just won't boot normal now.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 2, 2011 8:44 PM (in response to atgrazi)
When I boot up, before it asks me for the password and loads a wonky GUI with no airport... I can see a progress bar under the Apple logo with spinning wheel. Normally after you hear the Apple startup sound, you should see an Apple, get a spinning wheel for about 10-20 seconds, then boot into the OS fine.
But every time my iMac has been shut down more than 2 hours, there is a progress bar that will load half way during the spinning logo and then bring me to a wonky OS. The only solution is to restart at the login screen or restart after it has finished booting. Maybe I should start a new thread about this issue.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 3, 2011 3:53 AM (in response to atgrazi)
I think I found a solution. But perform these steps at your own risk.
First download the latest beta version of Onyx for Mac. Verify your disk, SMART status, etc. Then go to the cleaning tab and check off everything. Clean out all the caches.
Now you can use Onyx or Disk Utility to verify and repair permissions.
If you have and iMac, you should reset the SMC by shutting it down, then disconnecting the Power Cable. It also doesn't hurt to hold the Power button down for 15 seconds. Then wait a minute, reconnect the power cord.
Then reset the PRAM. For my Mac, I had to switch on my keyboard, turn on the Mac, then quickly hold Command, Option, P and R while booting. Hold them down until you hear the Apple sound twice.
After that, my Mac booted like lightning. Everything is fast and my fans are working properly. The OS is no longer glitchy and Wonky.
Now for all you iMac users out there who get stuck booting into safe mode, where airport (wifi) doesn't work and the graphics are messed up. The solution is kinda weird. Make sure when you boot your Mac, the keyboard and mouse are turned off, or any other BT device. Then the system will boot normally and quickly.
I don't like the solution for the safe boot, so I hope Apple comes up with a bluetooth or bootloader fix soon. As for all the Macbook Pros out there, I suggest like some others about resetting the PRAM and SMC may help you out, but bluetooth would not be the cause for your booting into safe mode with no wifi. You just have to reboot a few times and cross your fingers or go back to Snow Leopard until 10.7.1 comes around.
Hope this helps everybody!
Currently Being ModeratedAug 17, 2011 7:26 AM (in response to atgrazi)
I was having slow shutdown times (20+ seconds vs. 2 seconds) on my new AIR. I think I traced it down to one thing in particular. VMWare!! When I launch a Virtual environment during my session, shutdown hangs. When I don't open VMWare, my shutdown remains very fast.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 17, 2011 8:58 PM (in response to atgrazi)
I have bought Macs for others before but I finally got a MBA 13" last week. And today was the first day I tried to shut it down. It's been over minutes and all I have is a grey screen with revolving timer.
Did I buy the wrong computer? I had much higher hopes.
I am not running any VMWare and I have been mainly using it for browsing. Any found an actual root cause yet? Should I take it back to the shop as I just got it?
Currently Being ModeratedAug 18, 2011 3:20 AM (in response to dmbcanadian)
After I did a fresh install, I started using Virtualbox instead of VMWare Fusion and my shutdown issues are gone.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 18, 2011 4:27 AM (in response to atgrazi)
I have discovered a work around. In vmware, I switch my virtuals to Bride network mode from NAT and the shutdown doesn't hang any more. Not great solution, but obviously something has changed with lion's network stack and Fusion needs an update to addresss it.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 21, 2011 12:08 PM (in response to atgrazi)
Same problem here. What i have noticed is the following - if i am using MS Office 2011, Photoshop CS5 or ESET Smartsecurity shut down is slow - over one minute. On the other hand, if i use the mentioned apps and quit them before the shut down, shut down process is almost instant - it only takes about 4-5 seconds like it did on SL.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 12, 2012 3:51 PM (in response to atgrazi)
I too was experiencing this same problem which started out intermitent and progressed to all the time. After researching the issue, I found a solution: http://kb.iu.edu/data/aoxn.html It could be as simple as repairing your disk permissions from the Disk Utility. Goodl Luck!
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 16, 2012 6:02 AM (in response to atgrazi)
I have the same issue: https://discussions.apple.com/message/17608731#17608731
Should I go back to OS X 10.6.8?
Currently Being ModeratedMar 8, 2012 10:03 AM (in response to atgrazi)
Same issue here. Defintely due to Lion upgrade. Also I upgarded my HD to a SSD/Spindle Hybrid drive that caches like a SSD but stores on the traditional rotational disc. I can't see anyway around this except wait for an Apple update or to get a different HD install in my MBP.
Also I heard the relaunch programs checkbox will not be enabled by defualt anymore after the next OSX update. I sure hope not, I hate that feature being enabled by default.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 19, 2012 12:51 PM (in response to lonestarry)
I finally was able to fix my problem with Lion. After multiple support call with Apple, it was determined it must be a corrupt file in Lion. I did a clean install and everything worked ok and shutdown was fine, but when I restored from Time Machine to get my settings, Mail, documents, etc., Time Machine restored the corrupt file!! I had to do another clean install after exporting all of my POP email messages from Mail, saving all documents on a USB drive, getting copies of major software applications like Filemaker, Office for Mac so I could re-load them after wiping the hard drive, uploading photos to the cloud and saving anything else from my computer that I wanted to keep. You get the drift, a major undertaking.
I was able to get everything back on my MacBook Pro and haven't connected to Time Machine since and my computer is working like it's old self again!! I plan on erasing the data on my Time Machine drive and starting over with new backup.
Currently Being ModeratedMay 15, 2012 11:59 PM (in response to KennyA)
Having been a Windows user for many years - this shutdown problem is yet another example that the Apple OS is no more reliable than Microsoft.
I have had many OS related problems since buying my wizzy high spec iMac 18 months ago.
I too, have the latest iteration of Lion installed. My machine is scheduled to shutdown and restart. Some chance. The machine does not shutdown - always complaining that some App or other is stopping it - ridiculous!
Of course, as appears to be the norm with Apple, there is a deafening silence from Apple on these forums on any of the multitude of issues discussed here.
For the world's most advanced operating system, as loudly touted by Apple, is it really reasonable for it's users to be asked to constantly tinker under the bonnet to just get the thing to working properly? In my humble opinion - of course not!
Currently Being ModeratedMay 16, 2012 7:23 AM (in response to wmike1503)
I did a clean install of Lion - problem solved.
This forum is for users to share information - not a forum for reaching Apple. You have to contact them directly, if you have a problem.
No OS is perfect, there can be problems with a Mac OS - as there can be with any other OS.
If an App is built not to allow a shut down, blame it on the software - not the OS. It's a safety feauture, that has been around since pre OS X-days. If you got an open docement, thats not saved - should it just let it disapear..? Offcource not - it will ask you what to do. I like that.