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  • 555. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    cathy fasano Level 2 Level 2 (340 points)

    Cacus wrote:

     

    My Point was that Apple is abandoning the "Pro" user. Look at the history

     

    Xserve - Dead

    Shake - Dead

    DVD Studio Pro - Dead

    Final Cut Server - Dead

    Soundtrack - Dead

    Final Cut - Butchered

     

    I haven't seen lion server so can't comment but I understand it's lost a number of features

     

    If we are keeping score, add "ARD -- broken"

  • 556. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    bastipadan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I had just Problems when i updated to Lion, so i change it to Snow leopard again and now i'll wait for the (i hope it comes soon) next Update so i can try it again , because all over i think it's a great OS like Snow Leopard but still with to much bugs !

     

    I would give Lion a 3+ ( C ) !

     

    (sorry when my english isn't that good, because i'm german ! )

  • 557. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    coocooforcocoapuffs Level 3 Level 3 (845 points)
    If we are keeping score, add "ARD -- broken"

    I agree with you on all of the above but ARD...its still working, albiet the uncheck/recheck Remote Management on clients bug. U might want to add QuickTime Pro - unsupported? Color - dead, Cinema Tools - unsupported/dead?

     

    But I am not sure what relavence any of it has to anything else. Software companies change. Pro tools are available from others. Huh?

  • 558. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    cydcharisse Level 1 Level 1 (140 points)

    Very disappointing.  It not only feels bloated and slow, but it caused so many problems with freezing, crashing, and apparent file corruption that I gave up, zeroed out my HDD and reinstalled Snow Leopard, after first trying

    Lion again, with same negative results.

     

    I feel lucky I had the SL disc so I was able to clear the HD.  Apple should have a physical disc available for cases such as this.

     

    My computer is running beautifully now that I'm back to the Leopard.

  • 559. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    RicksonQ Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    We also need to tell Apple that an installation file/image is necessary. It does not have to be delivered on DVD, an USB disc/pin is as good or better.

     

    However, we must have an installable full version of the operating system and accompanying programs. This is absolutely necessary so that the system can be installed and re-installed whenever we want - without any dependence on the Net and of the availability of a software service in order to get the machine up and running.

  • 560. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    Michele Gardner Level 2 Level 2 (390 points)

    On my MBP, I love Fullscreen & Launchpad.  On my iMac I don't like them.  I usually like restoring my windows when I relaunch an app or restart, but sometimes I don't.  I love reverse scrolling on my trackpad but dislike it on a mouse.  So I guess you could say, I mostly like the flexibility to use these new features or not.  I will say though that I love Sandboxing but hate the lack of color.

  • 561. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    Cacus Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    coocooforcocoapuffs wrote:

     

    If we are keeping score, add "ARD -- broken"

    I agree with you on all of the above but ARD...its still working, albiet the uncheck/recheck Remote Management on clients bug. U might want to add QuickTime Pro - unsupported? Color - dead, Cinema Tools - unsupported/dead?

     

    But I am not sure what relavence any of it has to anything else. Software companies change. Pro tools are available from others. Huh?

     

     

    Companies do change I agree but the point is Apple don't see themselves as "Pro" anymore and this attitude is filtering down to the OS.

     

    Pro tools are available from others but when you've trusted Apple, undergone the learning curve for some of these highend (and high priced)  packages like Shake, FCS etc you get pritty ****** off when they dump it.

     

    Do you think if Adobe suddenly stop making photoshop that users would be happy saying thats ok cos lightroom looks nice!

     

    Think of it like this if Apple continue on their ipad cloning path and sandbox the **** out of the mac cos they think users are too stupid to organise files so lets get rid of finder... would you be happy?

     

    Don't get me wrong I like the iPad for what it is. But I don't want my mac to become one.

  • 562. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    Cacus Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    cydcharisse wrote:

     

    Apple should have a physical disc available for cases such as this.

     

     

    I agree. Or at lease make creating one easier. Alot of folk won't know about the hidden DMG

  • 563. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    Cacus Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    RicksonQ wrote:

     

    However, we must have an installable full version of the operating system and accompanying programs.

     

    You do there just not telling you about it.

     

    On the Install Mac OS X Lion app control click and go to show package contents. Open the contents folder and then SharedSupport folder in their is a DMG (InstallESD). Burn that to a disk and boot from it.

  • 564. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    babowa Level 7 Level 7 (23,280 points)
    On the Install Mac OS X Lion app control click and go to show package contents. Open the contents folder and then SharedSupport folder in their is a DMG (InstallESD). Burn that to a disk and boot from it.

     

    Actually, you do and you don't.  I burned a DVD and I booted from it yesterday. And then the waiting game began: the dialog stated "downloading additional components". Started out with 24 minutes remaining. After it had gone down to 12 minutes, it started increasing - total was over an hour. After that, the dialog changed and said "installing". That took more than 30 minutes. The two different dialogs in addition to the increasing time it took for the initial stage (which is normal for my Comcast connection - it always drops down to DSL speeds after a while), I would say that the .dmg is NOT a full installer - why else would it spend over an hour downloading more stuff? The time spent on that was actually about the same as when I initially downloaded it; the install time was also about the same.

     

    Total time spent: more than 2 hours.

     

    Obviously, internet connection also required.

     

    Won't be doing that again. Instead, I still have the actual installer; although it isn't bootable, it should work if placed back in the Applications folder and launched from there. So I will copy that to someplace safe. And, my first line of defense will be duplicate bootable copies of my entire system. Unless you want to reinstall and reinstall (including the lengthy downloads), I'd suggest doing bootable copies and/or copying the entire installer.

     

    FWIW: the only reason I did this was to a) test it and b) somehow my install did not include the recovery partition. Once finished, I was able to install the recovery disk assistant to a thumb drive, but I won't be using that either because it also involves another visit/download to MAS.

  • 565. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    coocooforcocoapuffs Level 3 Level 3 (845 points)
    Do you think if Adobe suddenly stop making photoshop that users would be happy saying thats ok cos lightroom looks nice!

    I don't think users will ever be happy, judging from the activity on this board for the past 5 years or more. But ur right, if Adobe discontinued PS, there would be a riot like the ones in London right now. However, the outcome would be another company making the same type product at less cost to us. Now there is something I would shout about.

  • 566. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    macpeople1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I responded initially to this thread after first installing Lion. After some issues immediately after installing Lion it's been running strong with no real problems. The experience is better now that I have added a Apple Trackpad for my iMac which is the only Mac I now have running Lion. Since Lion is obviously designed to be more like the iOS a trackpad dramatically changes the landscape of my Lion experience. For the better.

     

    It's still troubling that so many dedicated Mac users have experienced such a wide array of issues with Lion and still no update from Apple. I hope that Apple OS engineers and programmers recover from the party (Apple being the most valuable single company in the world) and start addressing these myriad issues.

     

    As for the philosophical questions and comments...

  • 567. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    stefano67 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I did not expect what is happening to me.

    In these last days, when I use my iPad it reminds me of Lion (and of the things I dislike about Lion) so much that I am starting to dislike my iPad... I can't believe it.

  • 568. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    taxicab6109 Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Comparing an application to an Operating system is like comparing a ball player to the team manager. The latter is in charge of everything and the former only that part of the field he has been assigned to defend as in the case of baseball. In short your analogy doesn't hold water.

  • 569. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    Bob_H Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You are correct to an extent, but when a radical change to the operating system is going to occur is it expected the OS vendor make that known before enticing people to upgrade.

     

    and the upgrade in my mind is truly a significant downgrade...

     

    Apple should at least send out a messge indicating they are working on reasonable solutions... not leave long time useres swinging in the breeze.

     

    Different business climate when a company thinks they do not owe there Patrons anything, ask Sears, I mean K-Mart.

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