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Q: Font problems in Safari 5.1 (Lion)

I am seeing the type replaced with an "A" inside a box on multiple websites.

 

I've rebooted my system and still seeing the same error.

 

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

 

 

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Safari 5.1, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 9:19 AM

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  • by ray sharpe,

    ray sharpe ray sharpe Aug 6, 2011 11:06 PM in response to futurejosh
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    Aug 6, 2011 11:06 PM in response to futurejosh

    I found that arial in my font manager was clashing with arial in font book, so turned off arial in font manager and the problem has gone away

  • by ntruchon,

    ntruchon ntruchon Aug 14, 2011 9:39 PM in response to mr_proud
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    Aug 14, 2011 9:39 PM in response to mr_proud

    For me same : Turn off and delete Helvetica Rounded in Suitcase Fusion 3, then restart. Problem resolved! Thx mr_proud!

  • by Kurt Weber,

    Kurt Weber Kurt Weber Aug 16, 2011 1:58 PM in response to ray sharpe
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    Aug 16, 2011 1:58 PM in response to ray sharpe

    Ray-

     

    As much as I dislike tinkering with the internal files this fix solves the problem. I got sick of waiting for Apple to fix the bug and I want to continue to use my Font Explorer.

  • by ray sharpe,

    ray sharpe ray sharpe Aug 16, 2011 3:11 PM in response to Kurt Weber
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    Aug 16, 2011 3:11 PM in response to Kurt Weber

    Kurt, what fix are you referring too?

  • by ray sharpe,

    ray sharpe ray sharpe Aug 16, 2011 5:09 PM in response to futurejosh
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    Aug 16, 2011 5:09 PM in response to futurejosh

    This issue is not fixed in 10.7.1

  • by Kurt Weber,

    Kurt Weber Kurt Weber Aug 16, 2011 5:56 PM in response to ray sharpe
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    Aug 16, 2011 5:56 PM in response to ray sharpe

    You had posted a link to a fix which involves modifying the webkit file. I hate messing with system files but the fix worked. After a restart OS X was correctly seeing FontExplorer's folder in Safari And fonts displayed properly.

     

    I believe the link you posted correctly identifies the problem and gives a temporary solution which will be moot when Apple updates the webkit to see the font mananger programs.

     

    Kurt

  • by PacNW,

    PacNW PacNW Aug 17, 2011 9:00 AM in response to futurejosh
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    Aug 17, 2011 9:00 AM in response to futurejosh

    I don't know if this will work for anyone else, but this has worked for me on my 2009 MBP and 2008 MP which both have FontExplorer installed and active. I did a clean install of 10.7 the other day to try and resolve some other issues and found that the font issues had dissappeared. Then when I updated to 10.7.1 yesterday they reappeared.

     

    This morning I decided to give Starting up in Safe Mode a go on the MP, let it boot up completely and then restarted normally. I then checked pages where I was having the font display issue, such as IE6 Countdown and the fonts were displaying properly. I then repeated the procedure with the MBP and got the same positive result.

     

    Hope this might prove useful for some.

  • by Kurt Weber,

    Kurt Weber Kurt Weber Aug 17, 2011 11:33 AM in response to PacNW
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    Aug 17, 2011 11:33 AM in response to PacNW

    I think the problem will continue to appear until the webkit fix is applied. I am having no problems after several restarts.

     

    Kurt

  • by Pete Goode,

    Pete Goode Pete Goode Sep 6, 2011 8:00 AM in response to futurejosh
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    Sep 6, 2011 8:00 AM in response to futurejosh

    osX Lion ***** A BIGGUN!

     

    IMHO.

     

    (and I'm a mac fanboy!)

     

    laundry list of problems

    1. the font problem
    2. Finder crashes unexpectedly (just reboots itself)
    3. sometimes said finder crash doesn't reboot.
    4. every d@mned thing is slower.
    5. launcher is great, except... WhoTF needs it?

     

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to become a windows user, but... this release feels about as buggy as OS 10.1 (or, whatever aqua's number was).

     

    C'mon Apple, Steve may have resigned, but you still have a job to do!

    get the crap working!

    love,

    pete

  • by Tom Gewecke,

    Tom Gewecke Tom Gewecke Sep 6, 2011 8:27 AM in response to Pete Goode
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    Sep 6, 2011 8:27 AM in response to Pete Goode

    Pete Goode wrote:

     

    C'mon Apple

     

     

    Pointless to post this stuff here where only other users read it.  Give Apple the details via the channel they have set up for that:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

  • by Wayne of America,

    Wayne of America Wayne of America Sep 6, 2011 8:37 AM in response to futurejosh
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    Sep 6, 2011 8:37 AM in response to futurejosh

    I had this issue a lot of the "keyboard A's", even way back in testing Lion. As you say, it only happens in Safari.

     

    A lot of people have blamed Font Explorer X but I've never used that, preferring Suitcase instead. I did the usual thing of cleaning font caches from the system and from Suitcase and this indeed works... for a short while.

     

    What finally fixed the issue for me permanently was deleting all older style Postscript fonts from the system and only using TrueType or OpenType fonts.

     

    I haven't had a problem since.

  • by Andrew LaGow,

    Andrew LaGow Andrew LaGow Sep 6, 2011 11:03 AM in response to Wayne of America
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    Sep 6, 2011 11:03 AM in response to Wayne of America

    Unfortunately that's not an option for many designers who have older typeface libraries. I have Bitstream's entire Type 1 library and I am loathe to re-buy these fonts in another format.

  • by Andrew LaGow,

    Andrew LaGow Andrew LaGow Sep 6, 2011 11:07 AM in response to Kurt Weber
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    Sep 6, 2011 11:07 AM in response to Kurt Weber

    Kurt Weber wrote:

     

    I think the problem will continue to appear until the webkit fix is applied. I am having no problems after several restarts.

     

    Kurt

    It's a mess on my Mac at work, using FontExplorer. It's a thing of beauty on my brand-new iMac at home, which has no font management software other than FontBook. Man those new iMacs are really smokin' fast.

  • by ray sharpe,

    ray sharpe ray sharpe Sep 6, 2011 3:04 PM in response to futurejosh
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    Sep 6, 2011 3:04 PM in response to futurejosh

    Rest easy my friends, for I have the solution to all your Safari font problems.

    http://forums.extensis.com/jforum/posts/list/3730.page

  • by Kurt Weber,

    Kurt Weber Kurt Weber Sep 7, 2011 1:09 PM in response to Andrew LaGow
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    Sep 7, 2011 1:09 PM in response to Andrew LaGow

    Manually adding the path to the webkit for Font Explorer or Extensis, or whatever Font management software you are using, fixes the problem, at least for me. I have not had a single Safari font problem since doing it. No more block letters period, and I have tons of different style fonts.

     

    Deleting the font cache is a only a temporary fix and removing "problem fonts" is as iffy. To me, the key clue that it is not a font problem is that Firefox does not have the problem on the same pages.

     

    Kurt

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