Q: deleting reference master files

That's a bit of a tricky one, as Aperture doesn't support networked volumes.  For the ones that Aperture can't touch directly, you'll need to to the networked volume in Finder and delete them.

Strange that you don't have access. Have you tried repairing permissions on the network drive through Disk Utility?

shuttersp33d  Disk Utilities repair permissions only works on the root volume.

Ah okay. Thanks, Frank.

There is one extra step.  Go to the root of the drive with the referenced files and select "Get Info".  At the bottom there should be a check in a box called "Ignore ownership of this volume".  This may be good enough, but go ahead and click the gear icon at the bottom to "apply to enclosed items".  Now this should set all the folders on the volume to ignore permissions.  Now Aperture should be able to delete your referenced files from the external drive.

Hello everybody,

We have noticed the same problem with our Pegasus R6 from Promise Technology. And we have read allready a lot of forums were this problem is been fixed.

However.... the option with the 'get info' - 'Ignore ownership of this volume' isn't working for us! We still can't delete the master files from our Pegasus R6 Raid 5?

Please is there an other way to do it?

Did you apply the permissions to the enclosed folders?  Also, when you empty the trash, did you check the box that appies to referenced files?  Other than that, I don't have any other suggestions.

yes, we have done both things. And neither one of those things work?

And above you see an image without the box checked 'Ignore ownership of this volume'. We have tried this with the checkbox on and off, but neither one of those will work?

At the root of each volume (other then the root volume) is a file called .Trash If the permissions are not set right on this file you will experience the symptoms you are seeing.

The problem is because the file name starts with a period it isn't normally viewable in the Finder unless you've enabled show hidden files. Of course turning that on isn't as simple as flicking a preference. So the easiest way to look at the permissions of the file is to use the Terminal application.

Open the Terminal app an do an ls -la on the root of the volume you are having problems with. The name will be /Voumes/nnnnnnnn where nnnnnn is the name of the volume. If you look in the /Volumes folder you will see the name.

So in Terminal the command will be

ls -la /Volumes/nnnnnnnn

(again nnnnnn is replaced by the actual name)

Post back the results.

Here is the ls-la from the iMac

iMac-van-Levin:~ levindenboer$  ls -la

total 72

drwxr-xr-x+  18 levindenboer  staff    612 18 aug 15:43 .

drwxr-xr-x    5 root          admin    170 26 jul 15:18 ..

-rw-------    1 levindenboer  staff      3 27 jul 14:05 .CFUserTextEncoding

-rw-r--r--@   1 levindenboer  staff  24580 18 aug 15:33 .DS_Store

drwx------    2 levindenboer  staff     68 18 aug 17:32 .Trash

drwxr-xr-x    4 levindenboer  staff    136 27 jul 13:36 .adobe

-rw-------    1 levindenboer  staff    432 17 aug 08:49 .bash_history

drwx------    3 levindenboer  staff    102 30 jul 15:30 .cups

drwxr-xr-x    2 levindenboer  staff     68 27 jul 13:47 Applications

drwx------+  21 levindenboer  staff    714 18 aug 17:45 Desktop

drwx------+  20 levindenboer  staff    680 18 aug 15:18 Documents

drwx------+  30 levindenboer  staff   1020 18 aug 15:33 Downloads

drwx------@  47 levindenboer  staff   1598 10 aug 10:11 Library

drwx------+   6 levindenboer  staff    204 14 aug 10:54 Movies

drwx------+ 120 levindenboer  staff   4080 18 aug 15:33 Music

drwx------+  10 levindenboer  staff    340  9 aug 14:44 Pictures

drwxr-xr-x+   5 levindenboer  staff    170 26 jul 15:18 Public

drwx------    4 levindenboer  staff    136 30 jul 13:06 StuffIt

And here from the volume Pegasus R6 Promise Technology:

drwxrwxr-x+   5 levindenboer  staff    170 17 aug 12:10  BACKUP WEBSITES

drwxrwxr-x+  22 levindenboer  staff    816  9 aug 09:09 .

drwxrwxrwt@   6 root          admin    204 18 aug 15:44 ..

-rw-rw-r--@   1 levindenboer  staff  24580 17 aug 08:50 .DS_Store

drwxrwxr-x+   5 levindenboer  staff    170 27 jul 19:42 .Spotlight-V100

drwxrwxr-x@   3 levindenboer  staff    102 28 jul 17:15 .TemporaryItems

drwxrwxr-x@   2 levindenboer  staff     68 17 aug 22:20 .Trashes

drwxrwxr-x+ 151 levindenboer  staff   5134 18 aug 17:52 .fseventsd

drwxrwxr-x+   5 levindenboer  staff    170 28 jul 13:55 2000

drwxrwxr-x+   2 levindenboer  staff     68 28 jul 13:51 2002

drwxrwxr-x+   8 levindenboer  staff    272 28 jul 13:51 2003

drwxrwxr-x+  35 levindenboer  staff   1190 28 jul 13:51 2004

drwxrwxr-x+  31 levindenboer  staff   1054 28 jul 13:52 2005

drwxrwxr-x+  71 levindenboer  staff   2414  1 aug 01:03 2006

drwxrwxr-x+ 140 levindenboer  staff   4760 28 jul 13:53 2007

drwxrwxr-x+ 311 levindenboer  staff  10574 28 jul 13:53 2008

drwxrwxr-x+ 335 levindenboer  staff  11390 28 jul 13:53 2009

drwxrwxr-x+ 723 levindenboer  staff  24582 28 jul 13:54 2010

drwxrwxr-x+ 431 levindenboer  staff  14654 18 aug 14:57 2011

drwxrwxr-x+   3 levindenboer  staff    102 13 aug 17:01 Desktop

The permissions on the .Trashes folder are wrong. You need to do a

• sudo chmod 1333 /Volumes/nnnnnn/.Trashes

You might get an error message or warning when you do this, ignore it. Now do the

• ls -la /Volumes/nnnnn

again. The permissions on the .Trashes file should be

if thgey are go ahead and try deleting in Aperture.

good luck, be careful when doing the sudo commands.

I did exactly what you told us.

d-wx-wx-wt@   2 levindenboer  staff     68 17 aug 22:20 .Trashes

But when i whant to delete the master images i get the same message again:

Is it not the name of the trashes??? If i look at the line on my imac it say's:

drwx------    2 levindenboer  staff     68 18 aug 17:32 .Trash

And the line on my Volume Pegasus R6;

d-wx-wx-wt@   2 levindenboer  staff     68 17 aug 22:20 .Trashes

It looks like the system has the name .Trash and the external volume is .Trashes

I don't know if that's a problem?

What version of the OS are you running?