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  • John Walsh4 Calculating status...
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    Aug 18, 2011 12:37 PM (in response to a brody)

    I have managed to get AppleWorks to run on Lion under Windows XP in a Parallels desktop virtual machine, just as you have suggested here.

  • patrickfromle pecq Calculating status...
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    Aug 25, 2011 7:09 AM (in response to Roger Wilmut1)

    Hello Roger, I have been following your advice in "Abandoning AppleWorks" regarding the transfer of a drawing to Pages.

    I am stuck with a problem: after pasting the Draw document in a Word processing one, I can't ungroup it. When I do shift command G, nothing happens.

    Any suggestion?

    Thanks!

    Patrick

  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (64,025 points)
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    Aug 25, 2011 8:28 AM (in response to patrickfromle pecq)

    Before pasting in the Word Processing document, click on the draw tool in the tools palette (the arrow): drag the mouse within the document to enter draw mode.

     

    AW.jpg

  • patrickfromle pecq Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Aug 26, 2011 4:01 AM (in response to Roger Wilmut1)

    Thanks for your answer. However, I've been trying again and again but it doesn't work. (and by the way, where do I find the setup to move to Landscape?)

  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (64,025 points)
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    Aug 26, 2011 4:17 AM (in response to patrickfromle pecq)

    To change to Landscape: menu File>Page Setup and Change Orientation - click the icon for landscape.

     

    As to your first issue: please walk through this process and report where it falls over.

     

    Create three draw items in a Draw document. Hit command-A to select all.

     

    AW!.jpg

     

    Hit command-G to group.

     

    AW2.jpg

     

    Hit command-C to copy. Open a new WP document. Click the arrow icon in the tool palette, then click and drag the mouse a small distance in the page, roughly where you want the images to appear.

     

    AW3.jpg

     

    Hit command-V to paste the grouped images.

     

    AW4.jpg

     

    Make sure the group is selected, then hit shift-command-G to ungroup.

     

    AW5.jpg

  • patrickfromle pecq Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Aug 26, 2011 6:31 AM (in response to Roger Wilmut1)

    Thanks for all that.

    The good news: I managed to make it work, thanks to al the details you provided.

    The bad news: the Appleworks WP document seems to be in the standard 21x29,7 cm format. My Appleworks drawings (I have 5 of them alltogether!) are bigger than that.

    So I only get a portion of the original document in the Appleworks WP and then in the Pages document.

  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (64,025 points)
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    Aug 26, 2011 7:01 AM (in response to patrickfromle pecq)

    Set the page size in File>Page Setup (though you presumably won't be able to set a larger size than your printer will handle) and reduce the margins to the minumum possible.

  • patrickfromle pecq Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Aug 26, 2011 9:37 AM (in response to Roger Wilmut1)

    I am making good progresses... :-)

    Thanks you so much for your help!

  • janesanha Calculating status...
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    Aug 27, 2011 12:47 PM (in response to Roger Wilmut1)

    Okay, here's where I admit that I'm keeping my old iMac with Snow Leopard OS.  EZDraw seems to demand that I use photos at 72 dpi in new draw docs (or maybe I just don't understand why my resized 300 dpi photos from PhotoShop don't copy & paste at that size on the EZDraw doc) , which is just NOT ok, although EZDraw will open up old Appleworks docs just fine.  Maybe I should just bite the bullet & try to figure out how to make my art cards in Pages...(ack!  I hate this learning curve!).  Meanwhile, Numbers will NOT open up Appleworks data bases which I've used for years for address lables, and as far as I can tell, no one's come up with a work around for that.  Hrumph.

  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (64,025 points)
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    Aug 27, 2011 1:17 PM (in response to janesanha)

    janesanha wrote:

     

    Meanwhile, Numbers will NOT open up Appleworks data bases which I've used for years for address lables

    Numbers will open AW spreadsheets. It will not open databases, nor will anything else. The only way to migrate a database is to export it in AW as an ASCII file, then import it into a database program: Bento will do for very simple databases, FileMaker Pro is very advanced and can handle pretty well any function. Of course you can only import data, not layouts.

     

    Numbers can import a AW database that's been exported as ASCII and may be suitable for some functions - possibly including mail merge: you should ask about that in the Numbers forum.

  • LateBloom123 Calculating status...
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    Sep 2, 2011 5:06 AM (in response to Roger Wilmut1)

    While I understand what's happening, I think it's ridiculous that Appleworks won't work on future Operating Systems.

     

    Does Rosetta somehow corrupt anything? If not, why punish people that like to use something old?

     

    I have thousands of Appleworks world processing documents, and while most of them convert well to Pages, some get mangled beyond recognition. It seems silly to have to recreate documents that took many hours to create when there IS a way for them to work.

     

    I asked our tech specialist at school if I can install my copy of Appleworks on just one computer in my classroom. We're running Snow Leopard. The answer was "Absolutely not. This will create printing problems for our network."

     

    That just seems wrong. I run Snow Leopard at home and it works fine on my home printer.

     

    Is our specialist correct? I don't get it.

     

    Plus, I don't get why Apple would make something that many people like and that works now suddenly a dinosaur and unusable. Then again, they do that a lot I guess and I should just get used to it.

  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (64,025 points)
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    Sep 2, 2011 8:07 AM (in response to LateBloom123)

    You have to remember that as far as Apple are concerned, AppleWorks has been end-of-lifed and not supported for quite some years now. I understand that re-writing it for Intel was not practicable for technical reasons: iWork was intended as at least a partial replacement.

     

    As to Rosetta, like Classic I suppose it had got to the point where it was felt not worth supporting it: there may also be licencing issues (Apple don't own it).

  • christopher rigby1 Level 4 Level 4 (2,070 points)
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    Sep 2, 2011 8:48 AM (in response to LateBloom123)

    It's interesting what you say, but I have to agree with Roger on the Rosetta issue - if there was no overhead in keeping it going, I'm sure Apple would have.

     

    I'm still converting my AW docs to RTF or Word. Today I was looking in a folder on an old HD and came across the ClarisWorks 5 Introduction "Read Me" file. It makes fascinating reading. So many people in this forum are supporters of AW but they forget - AW itself is a cut-down version of ClarisWorks 5. Let me remind you of two incredibly powerful tools in CW5 :

    1. Recording repetitive tasks as macros (abolished long before Automator appeared)
    2. 'Publish & Subscribe', where you could assign data anywhere in any document as a 'field' and then subscribe to it - so if you changed the field, all the subscribed references in other docs would dynamically change too.

    Yet by the time AW became 'in-house', those two (and other things) were weeded out. The button bar though, became much prettier. Style, or substance? I know which I'd prefer..

  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (64,025 points)
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    Sep 2, 2011 8:55 AM (in response to christopher rigby1)

    There were technical reasons why macros and Publish & Subscribe couldn't be maintained - it may have been the move to Intel, I'm not sure, but whatever the reason it wasn't technically possible: it wasn't just a decision not to bother.

  • christopher rigby1 Level 4 Level 4 (2,070 points)
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    Sep 2, 2011 9:16 AM (in response to Roger Wilmut1)

    Roger Wilmut1 wrote:

     

    There were technical reasons why macros and Publish & Subscribe couldn't be maintained - it may have been the move to Intel, I'm not sure, but whatever the reason it wasn't technically possible: it wasn't just a decision not to bother.

     

    LOL no. AppleWorks came along around 5? 6? 7? years before the move to Intel!

     

    I'm puzzled why there should be 'technical reasons', as it wasn't technical issues that saw Claris brought 'in-house'. The code was all there, all they needed to do was prettify the buttons if that was important to them. It was probably more to do with 'Carbonising' the app ready for OS X, which was certainly on the horizon back then.

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