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Q: What happens to iWeb when there's no Mobile Me?

I was disappointed to learn that Apple will turn off Mobile Me next year. I'm a teacher and I liked using iWeb to create a small website for my classes (Homework, Activities,etc.). It was easy and the pages looked OK to me. I haven renewed my Mobile Me subscription when I bought a new iMac in January. Now I have to go through a bunch s__t to get a refund.

 

I am not interested in iClouds, iPhones, iPads, etc. I just don't want all the extra stuff. I just liked having an easy to post a website and create decent looking webpages.

 

You have to pay for iCloud, right? If I don't use and don't intend to use any iOS devices, what good is iCloud? Does it have any value?

 

What happens to my iDisk after June 30, 2012? Does it disappear?

 

Will iWeb be killed as well? I am told that you can publish webpages with iWeb to 3rd party sites, but if the application is no longer supported, it won't be long before it won't work correctly.

 

Are there any applications as good as and EASY as iWeb to use?

iBook G4 / iMacG4 / iMacG5 / / Mac Book Pro/ eMac, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 7:48 PM

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  • by Alancito,

    Alancito Alancito Aug 27, 2011 6:50 AM in response to Parrish Jones
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    Aug 27, 2011 6:50 AM in response to Parrish Jones

    Parrish ~ Whilst you await Hugh's reply, the following from Sandvox's "Transitioning from iWeb" page may be useful:

    How do I convert my iWeb site to a Sandvox site?

    Because of the proprietary themes and page layout structure used by iWeb, there is no way currently to import an iWeb site directly into a Sandvox document. In short, the bulk of a site will need to be rebuilt. Hopefully once the general look and feel is set up (design is chosen, site title entered, banner adjusted, etc.), adding pages and bringing content over is not too much of a pain. You should be able to copy/paste graphics and text from your iWeb site directly into your Sandvox document, either from iWeb directly or, using your favorite web browser, from your published site.

    One thing to keep in mind is that because the design used in Sandvox will be necessarily different from the design in iWeb, copying text directly may bring with it unwanted formatting or font changes. When pasting, you can use "Edit → Paste and Match Style" to bring text in using the default style of the Sandvox design. You can also use "Format → Clear Style" after the fact to remove unwanted styling.


    Can I make my Sandvox site look exactly like my old iWeb site?

    Because of the proprietary nature of Apple’s themes, this is unlikely. Sandvox is not able to reuse the graphics and underlying layout of iWeb’s themes. There are plenty of great designs available for Sandvox. You might consider this transition as an opportunity to freshen up.

    https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-15022477-1766/128-62/SigT.gif

  • by Parrish Jones,

    Parrish Jones Parrish Jones Aug 27, 2011 9:18 AM in response to Alancito
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    Aug 27, 2011 9:18 AM in response to Alancito

    I think this is an important answer. Thanks for your help. The whole thing is quite frustrating. Thanks for your help.

  • by Bob Magnant,

    Bob Magnant Bob Magnant Aug 27, 2011 12:30 PM in response to Joeswell
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    Aug 27, 2011 12:30 PM in response to Joeswell

    I am not a legacy Mac user, just an older Mac user. I bought my first computer, a Macintosh IIci, when I was 50, bought my Mom an all-in-one Performa when she was 81 and I have been playing with iLife since it was iTools. Although I did lose my original .mac web pages in the transition to MobileMe [I still need to rebuild them], I embraced iWeb and MobileMe wholeheartedly since it better integrated me with my fun photos and also connected me with my family. I also have several Mac friends around the globe that I still share things with [remember dotmac.info?].

     

    Apple helped me create a web presence [http://web.mac.com/magnant] and I never minded paying for their excellent support. I always felt that the people who didn't subscribe to MobileMe were really missing out. I can appreciate that the advance of technology does cause changes to be necessary but I always thought of Apple as leading the way while bringing their faithful along with them.

     

    I now have an iPhone and an iPad and I think they’re great. If Apple moves into China's cell phone market next with the iPhone and soon doubles its revenues, I say 'Hooray for Apple; you deserve it.' I personally didn't have a cell phone for the first 66years of my life but I am on my second iPhone now... only because that amazing device put my Mac, my books, my contacts, my galleries and my 80-plus webpages into my pocket.

     

    I paid for Apple to bring my wife and kids along, and my grandkids as well, which I now share with everyone over the Internet, along with many of the things that I've written, created or discovered during the last 40 years. I truly believe that this integration of the Macintosh community has been a major contributor to Apple's reputation, development and its stunning success. Apple has always seemed to understand that up until now.

     

    If new Apple directions are going to disrupt the connectivity we have and abandon the legacy that we continue to build upon, I for one will be very upset and I will feel a significant loss. I share my thoughts with you relating to the future because I have found no joy anywhere yet. It’s obvious that there are a lot of people who feel as I do and that should influence what Apple offers; I would certainly hope so. Please share these thoughts with others, visit my Apple-grown webpages to better understand why I feel the way that I do and thank you for listening. Let your voice be heard!

  • by josemari,

    josemari josemari Aug 27, 2011 1:15 PM in response to Bob Magnant
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    Aug 27, 2011 1:15 PM in response to Bob Magnant

    Great story! In my case, the loss of mobileme as a hosting service has been beneficial because my curent host only costs $35 a year and provides usage statistics unavailable before, Losing iWeb is a different story due to the elegant pages that it generates with minimum effort. I may well be one of the last to abandon iWeb.

  • by hughmass,

    hughmass hughmass Aug 27, 2011 1:55 PM in response to Parrish Jones
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    Aug 27, 2011 1:55 PM in response to Parrish Jones

    Thanks. I spent 5 1/2 years on Eugene's Human Rights Commission and learned some essential lessons.

     

    I redid everything, but for me that wasn't a bad thing, as over maybe four years the previous iWeb site had grown disorganized and unwieldy. The pages in iWeb cannot be transferred over.

     

    I was simply amazed how easy it was to copy and past most of the old material over. Heck, I could go to the site in my browser, and copy and paste not only text, but links as well. I don't understand the magic involved, but I could select all in a page of text and links, and past that into Sandvox, and it all came over, including the links.

     

    Now, Sandvox is a lot like iWeb, but maybe 40% is different. It still has an easy to compose side panel of windows, but it doesn't allow one to just past stuff anywhere on the page. But all in all, I wouldn't go back to iWeb. Sandvox has 50 templates and it is easy to just click on one after the other to see what you really want.

     

    But the learning curve is about the same as iWeb's. If you know iWeb you are maybe 60% of the way there. One needs to watch the tutorial, and just dig in. By the way, Sandvox has a great help window.

    I am not connected in any way to the Sandvox people, just like the fact that their software is a really good alternative to iWeb. As I understand it, they have been in business for over 5 years, and I sure hope they stay for another 5. I like learning software and kind of becoming expert in it...

    Hugh

  • by applesue7,

    applesue7 applesue7 Oct 13, 2011 2:30 AM in response to Ric Donato
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    Oct 13, 2011 2:30 AM in response to Ric Donato

    Ric, you've so much spare energy there that could be put to good use!

  • by Honore,

    Honore Honore Oct 13, 2011 8:59 AM in response to Joeswell
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    Oct 13, 2011 8:59 AM in response to Joeswell

    Well, I'm coming in very late to this "discussion party", but thought I'd go ahead and chime in. I'm running 10.7.2, using iWeb '09, and I just (yesterday) transitioned from Mobile Me to another web host (broke down and got my own domain name). I was able to get the entire site published using FTP and not only that, when there was a minor issue, I called the tech support people and they gave me some suggestions and ... hey, presto!  It worked and I'm now live.  It wasn't a perfect transition; we had to do a bit of "tweaking", but everything came across—photos, blogs, movies, the lot, even the hit counter.  I'm rather an old dog so this came as quite a relief to me.  I'll keep using iWeb!

  • by josemari,

    josemari josemari Oct 13, 2011 9:06 AM in response to Honore
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    Oct 13, 2011 9:06 AM in response to Honore

    According to what I've read, you will likely lose some functionality after June 30, 2012, including blog comments and the hit counter. This is because those functions are tied to mobileme servers. I agree with you that hosting companies provide a better hosting service than mobileme does. I also plan to continue using iWeb.

  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Oct 13, 2011 9:41 AM in response to josemari
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    Oct 13, 2011 9:41 AM in response to josemari

    Well, no how can you lose functionality that you have never had?  If you have never used MobileMe and have always published to another host/server, the blog comment and hit counter functions have never been available to you anyway and have always been a MobileMe only option.

     

    You are correct that when you switch from MobileMe next year, you'll have to find alternatives.

  • by suzana17,

    suzana17 suzana17 Oct 24, 2011 7:40 PM in response to Joeswell
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    Oct 24, 2011 7:40 PM in response to Joeswell

    I would really like to know WHY is Apple turning off the "Mobile Me" service?

  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM in response to suzana17
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    Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM in response to suzana17

    Because it is/has been replaced by iCloud which is now up and running and which Apple feel is better.

  • by Alancito,

    Alancito Alancito Oct 25, 2011 1:19 AM in response to suzana17
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    Oct 25, 2011 1:19 AM in response to suzana17

    suzana17 wrote:

     

    I would really like to know WHY is Apple turning off the "Mobile Me" service?

    Suzana ~ Welcome to the Support Communities. The introduction of iCloud by Steve Jobs may provide some insight into Apple's thinking — click here:

     

    A_XSHOT_2.jpg

     

    ...The video should start at 1:19:16 — if it doesn't, you'll have to skip to that point.

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-15022477-1766/128-62/SigT.gif

  • by keskeseksa,

    keskeseksa keskeseksa Oct 26, 2011 7:01 AM in response to Ethmoid
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    Oct 26, 2011 7:01 AM in response to Ethmoid

    What's the big deal with iWeb and iCloud? when I upgraded to iOS5 I transferred my MobileMe account to iCloud.

    My iWeb was hosted on MobileMe, it is now hosted on iCloud. At least that's how I understand it.

    I am not computer litterate and I had almost given up on building a website until I found iWeb. I spent a fortune on tutorials with DreamWeaver and the likes, and got even more headaches with FTP. Without a single tutorial I built my website on iWeb in less than an hour. It took me another half an hour to host my website on my MobileMe account.

    iWeb has its limitations but the most important is that I am in total control, as I need to update it several times a week. One tricky part though is that the location where you save your website (called "domain") is now hidden in Lion, but if you search this forum you can easily unhide it.

    Thanks Ethnoid for your info.

    Bottom line: don't bother to look for an aternative.

    If you're not a pro, stick to iWeb.

  • by KHvG,

    KHvG KHvG Oct 26, 2011 8:11 AM in response to keskeseksa
    Level 1 (54 points)
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    Oct 26, 2011 8:11 AM in response to keskeseksa

    Your site is not hosted on iCloud Keskesekesa. iCloud does not include that service. Your site (mine as well) is still hosted on MobileMe till the end of June 2012. Before that time you must find another host.

     

    Another thing : I am an iWeb fan, but iWeb is not updated anymore, so it will (unfortunately) disappear in the future. Dreamweaver is not a good alternative for iWeb, you're right, but there still is hope : I found a very good alternative, which is Sandvox. It is very iWeb-like. You should try it, you don't need to be a pro, you can get a free trial at the Sandvox site. Just play with it and you'll see it's as easy as iWeb, just a little bit more advanced and slick.

  • by Roddy,

    Roddy Roddy Oct 26, 2011 8:12 AM in response to keskeseksa
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    Oct 26, 2011 8:12 AM in response to keskeseksa

    Your website is still hosted on MobileMe. iCloud cannot host sites.

     

    Your website will disappear from the internet in June of next year when MobileMe shuts down unless you find alternative hosting.

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