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Does anyone recommend OS X Lion?

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  • Michelasso Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)
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    Sep 9, 2011 10:42 AM (in response to Michael Ruiz2)

    True, I use the same Applications stack in the dock organized as a list. In the same way you do. But Launchpad has the advantage of showing large icons, organized in screens easily accessible with a simple 2 fingers swipe.

     

    I totally agree that organizing LP is a mess, tho. The icons move all over. At least there could be an option to sort the icons in alphabetical order on each screen. But once it is organized it stays.

     

    BTW You can stll organize LP with (dark linen) folders. Just drag an icon over another. A new LP folder gets created and the the icons moved in there. Again, I don't understand the reason why LP shouldn't follow the Applications folder organization.

  • Alex Zavatone Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 9, 2011 11:01 AM (in response to genebeley)

    I agree Gene. This has also been a very expensive fustercluck for me as well.  It's forced me to take time from work to deal with getting the RIGHT Snow Leopard install disk, and have even driven to the Apple store to buy one.  They don't sell it any more!  Wasted time and money driving.  Tried a reinstall from my MBP disk through a firewire connection and an hour later, My iMac tells me that the ATI or USB kexts are improperly installed.  And my Time Machine backup is on a drive that has become flakey.  Will try my 3rd reinstall tonight when I hopefully will have the right Snow Leopard install disc and then there is the lovels update process which will take another few hours. 

     

    Wasted most of the weekend trying to get back to Snow Leopard and I am STILL in process of trying this.  I'm out of state at the monent and have my SL install disk back at my house in Texas.  Royal, ROYAL PITA.

     

    I don't have the time to spend on a longer letter expressing my dismay at this release.

     

    It may work for some, but when it EFFs up, it EFFs up BIG, wasting customer, money loyalty and trust in Apple's commitment to quality.

  • Marc Wilson Level 3 Level 3 (970 points)
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    Sep 9, 2011 11:13 AM (in response to Emilia)

    Emilia wrote:

     

    Yes there might be some improvements but often this is just an excuse to force Users to buy updates for all their major applications once again.

     

    Paranoia much?  That argument would only hold water if (a) Apple were the vendor for all these "major" applications (hint: they're not), and (b) that actually upgrading most of them was required (hint: it isn't).

     

    [cue rant about how evil Apple must be since six year old Office 2004 no longer runs]

  • Marc Wilson Level 3 Level 3 (970 points)
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    Sep 9, 2011 11:20 AM (in response to Victor Beltran)

    Victor Beltran wrote:

     

    You can install Rosetta on Lion, do as follows:

     

    Get your Snow Leopard DVD's, insert the disc that contains the extra installations, run it, and select to install Rosetta, after that, reboot, and bingo!!! you can install Microsoft Office 2008 whit out problema!!! I haven't try to install other PowerPC software, but I think that they have to work as well.

     

    Which will do nothing, since Office 2008 runs quite well in Lion on its own, without Rosetta.

     

    It's a Universal app, you see.  Microsoft's first one... the previous Office 2004 was a Carbon monolith.

  • Rich Hayhurst Level 1 Level 1 (115 points)
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    Sep 10, 2011 9:06 AM (in response to jarturoe)

    One interface inconsistancy that has emerged in Lion is the fact that Arrow Keys on your keyboard move the screen up and down as always, whereas the new mouse movement works in the opposite direction. 

     

    Pushing 'up' on an arrow key moves the document content down.

     

    Pushing up(forward) on a mousewheel moves the document content up.

  • Michael_eh? Calculating status...
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    Sep 10, 2011 9:43 AM (in response to jarturoe)

    I'm running MS Office 2008 on my late 2010 MacBook Pro and it works just fine under Lion, currently 10.7.1. Apparently Office 2004 does not from reading some comments here.

  • Marc Wilson Level 3 Level 3 (970 points)
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    Sep 10, 2011 2:57 PM (in response to Michael_eh?)

    Michael_eh? wrote:

     

    I'm running MS Office 2008 on my late 2010 MacBook Pro and it works just fine under Lion, currently 10.7.1. Apparently Office 2004 does not from reading some comments here.

     

    Office 2004 and earlier are PowerPC applications.  Office 2008 is a Universal app.

  • softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)
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    Sep 12, 2011 7:24 AM (in response to Marc Wilson)

    There may be hope for those wanting to run powerpc apps and Lion after all...


    http://applehelpwriter.com/2011/09/11/runing-powerpc-apps-on-lion/

  • Roy Miller Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
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    Sep 12, 2011 8:00 AM (in response to Marc Wilson)

    Marc Wilson wrote:

     

    Victor Beltran wrote:

     

    You can install Rosetta on Lion, do as follows:

     

    Get your Snow Leopard DVD's, insert the disc that contains the extra installations, run it, and select to install Rosetta, after that, reboot, and bingo!!! you can install Microsoft Office 2008 whit out problema!!! I haven't try to install other PowerPC software, but I think that they have to work as well.

     

    Which will do nothing, since Office 2008 runs quite well in Lion on its own, without Rosetta.

    @Marc, except that the installer that is wrapped around the Microsoft Office 2008 package does require Rosetta.  So, even though Office 2008 itself runs fine, one can't install it from disc without the Rosetta package.  This is one of the 3rd-party app chuckles for a while....

     

    cheers!

  • Roy Miller Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
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    Sep 12, 2011 8:08 AM (in response to Alex Zavatone)

    Tried a reinstall from my MBP disk through a firewire connection and an hour later, My iMac tells me that the ATI or USB kexts are improperly installed.

    @Alex - it is likely that you MBP disk does not have the appropriate drivers and support files for an iMac.  This has been the case for many years - install discs delivered with a system are for that system family. 

     

    you might be able to use the MBP disc to install on another MBP, but not on an iMac, Mac Pro, etc.

     

    if you want to 'retrograde" your new iMac (I'm assuming it is a new one), there is a method to create your own Mac OS X 10.6.8 v1.1 system that you can copy to the iMac.  This system will support the current iMac hardware configuration.

     

    The procedure sounds really complicated, is actually straightforward if one just walks through it prior to trying to figure it all out.  If you'd like to try, check out:  https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3264421?start=0&tstart=0

     

    Please note that in the beginning, in the Required Resources section, the last item, System Image Utility, is actually located in the Server Admin Tools 10.6.8 package, and no, you don't need a server to download, install or use this package.

     

    cheers!

  • seahawk09 Calculating status...
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    Sep 12, 2011 10:16 AM (in response to jarturoe)

    Hey Jarturoe,

     

    Sorry to to say but you would be safe not to install lion just because apple has alot of work to do with it. Keep using SL for now.

     

    and hope apple fixes it.

  • Dr.Head Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 13, 2011 11:06 AM (in response to Rich Hayhurst)

    The freeware Lion Tweaks will change iCal and Address Book to Alumimium:

     

    iFredrik.com - Developer Website

  • Dr.Head Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 13, 2011 11:25 AM (in response to Bob Jacobson)

    Early in this thread there was a link to an article regarding the security improvements in Lion. The article said these were huge and alone worth the upgrade. Sorry, I don't know where that is. Maybe someone else can point you to it.

  • Kittenmommy Level 3 Level 3 (645 points)
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    Sep 13, 2011 11:28 AM (in response to Dr.Head)

    Dr.Head wrote:

     

    The freeware Lion Tweaks will change iCal and Address Book to Alumimium:

     

    iFredrik.com - Developer Website

     

    I installed the iCal tweek and never looked back!

     

    I actually like the new look of Address Book, though.  Yeah, I guess I'm weird!

  • Dr.Head Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 13, 2011 3:16 PM (in response to Kittenmommy)

    Yeah, for me the first thing I did was dump the iCal skin for Aluminium. I tried the Address Book in Aluminium but changed it back -- it looked stupid, unlike SL ver. and the Lion ver. isn't too bad. At least they didn't make it flip pages. Glad they didn't get that idea.

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