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Q: Disable autosave

Hello, anybody figured out how one can disable autosave? I just *don't* want it, and I have my reasons.

Thanks,

 

l.

Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 10:30 AM

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  • by stefano67,

    stefano67 stefano67 Sep 8, 2011 2:33 AM in response to Tom in London
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    Sep 8, 2011 2:33 AM in response to Tom in London

    As for MS Office, I just tried the 2011 version and noticed that the ugliest feature (for me - ribbons) can be switched off and can free some screen space.

    That makes MS office usable for me and it provides some statistical functions (in Excel) that are not available in Numbers (e.g., solving linear programming problems).

    I am going to (sadly) uninstall iWorks...

  • by James Parvin,

    James Parvin James Parvin Sep 9, 2011 9:25 AM in response to lucafrombrooklyn
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    Sep 9, 2011 9:25 AM in response to lucafrombrooklyn

    This is a major problem and a deal breaker for me. I use the same sheets over and over throughout the day and everytime I goto another cell and start typing w/o looking, I look up to see my numbers are not there but a nice little spin wheel is...wth. I love Apple products but this appears to be a change to change and should have an on off switch at least. Furthmore, changing names from save/save as etc... is just confusing and only makes us re-learn something rather than moving forward. This actually takes more time now like the address book, flip flopping back and forth to see groups etc... total BS This reminds of some of the changes softy has done over the years. Lets do less clicks not more and build on what we know not re-invent the wheel.

  • by Trisha K,

    Trisha K Trisha K Sep 14, 2011 9:29 PM in response to Bob_H
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    Sep 14, 2011 9:29 PM in response to Bob_H

    Bob_H wrote:

     

    My biggest issue with Versions, if you open a file to look at its content the original creation date is changed. It is a useless unneeded feature for experienced computer users.

     

    Constant wirtes and read to find the "latest" version the operaton is mind boggling. further if the creation date for a legal docment changed you now have a useless file in your posession that has no legal benefit..

     

    This very idea failed miserably in the 80-90 not sure why the the mind set is to force the change yet again..

     

    While Lion performce is peppier than SL, the "i"TOY menatllity destroys any inherent usefulness, I went back to SL my MBP runs cooler since the drive is not constantly bombarded with reads and uncessary writes.

     

    Apple may yet get it right and make Versions an option for those who find that level of handholding a comfort. and for those of us that understnad the need to save our work or at least backup can disable Versions.

     

    When they get it it right I may try Lion again.

     

    My $.02.

    Bob_H hit the nail on the head.

     

    Why does Apple not listen?

     

    As a customer, this is really making me want to switch back to Windows. Lion is not for lawyers!

  • by Marc Troy,

    Marc Troy Marc Troy Sep 15, 2011 1:44 AM in response to lucafrombrooklyn
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    Sep 15, 2011 1:44 AM in response to lucafrombrooklyn

    I've switched back to Snow Leopard yesterday. Feels great. I only miss the scrollbar layout, everything else is simply better.

  • by hairynugget,

    hairynugget hairynugget Sep 15, 2011 2:10 AM in response to Marc Troy
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    Sep 15, 2011 2:10 AM in response to Marc Troy

    Marc - very well put!

    Snow Leopard does simply feel better!

    Let's hope we don't get evicted from it any time soon by changing times we can't choose to ignore.

    Nugget

  • by stefano67,

    stefano67 stefano67 Sep 15, 2011 3:36 AM in response to Marc Troy
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    Sep 15, 2011 3:36 AM in response to Marc Troy

    Good choice Marc.

    I did the same after 2 days of Lion. I would suggest to ask for your money back.I did and I got it.

    Lion is "parc" (read it right to left) but customer service is excellent (and I believe they understand what Lion is...)

  • by hairynugget,

    hairynugget hairynugget Sep 15, 2011 5:48 AM in response to stefano67
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    Sep 15, 2011 5:48 AM in response to stefano67

    stefano67 wrote:

     

    Good choice Marc.

    I did the same after 2 days of Lion. I would suggest to ask for your money back.I did and I got it.

    Lion is "parc" (read it right to left) but customer service is excellent (and I believe they understand what Lion is...)

    Good suggestion Stefano!

    I just asked for my money back and got agreement in less than 3 hours. I've always found Apple's Customer Service to be excellent - it just didn't occur to me to ask for a refund until your post.

    I also suspect that Apple inc. is even more likely to take notice of customers asking for their money back (even if it is only £20) than to plain product feedback?

  • by stefano67,

    stefano67 stefano67 Sep 15, 2011 5:57 AM in response to hairynugget
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    Sep 15, 2011 5:57 AM in response to hairynugget

    I'm happy you made it.

    And I agree with you, asking 20 pounds back is worth thousands of forum comments...

     

    Nevertheless, I hope to see soon a Lion with FrontRow, Expose+Spaces, customizable Finder sidebar, iCal sidebar, Address book with groups, contacts and details altogether and WITHOUT autosave/versions.

    That day I will buy it again, even at 50 pounds

  • by hairynugget,

    hairynugget hairynugget Sep 15, 2011 6:07 AM in response to stefano67
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    Sep 15, 2011 6:07 AM in response to stefano67

    stefano67 wrote:

     

    Nevertheless, I hope to see soon a Lion with FrontRow, Expose+Spaces, customizable Finder sidebar, iCal sidebar, Address book with groups, contacts and details altogether and WITHOUT autosave/versions.

    That day I will buy it again, even at 50 pounds

    I agree 100% with that!

    This was a first for me - I've never before been disappointed with an Apple product to the point where I felt a refund was justified, but I'd happily pay a premium for a version of Lion that does what I need it to.

  • by Marc Troy,

    Marc Troy Marc Troy Sep 15, 2011 6:20 AM in response to stefano67
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    Sep 15, 2011 6:20 AM in response to stefano67

    Thanks for the hint, didn't consider a refund before. Just contacted Apple, let's see what they'll write.

     

    I'd be happy to pay whatever money they want for a non-autosave/resume/versions/bla OS X that re-adds the iCal sidebar, gives us contacts back and adds proper samba support.

  • by lucafrombrooklyn,

    lucafrombrooklyn lucafrombrooklyn Sep 15, 2011 7:15 AM in response to Marc Troy
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    Sep 15, 2011 7:15 AM in response to Marc Troy

    Waiting for 10.7.2 before making this move... In the meantime, for those who want to see another problem with autosave and versions (which hopefully will be fixed in a future version) this article from Tidbits is a good reading:

     

    http://tidbits.com/article/12483

     

    l.

  • by KOENIG Yvan,

    KOENIG Yvan Sep 15, 2011 8:55 AM in response to lucafrombrooklyn
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    Sep 15, 2011 8:55 AM in response to lucafrombrooklyn

    Nothing new in this article.

    The fact that Version doesn't apply to networks or non HFS+ devices was described in the week after the Lion's delivery.

    It seems that some users are asleep.

     

    Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) jeudi 15 septembre 2011 17:55:19

    iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 4 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.0

    My iDisk is : <http://public.me.com/koenigyvan>


    Please : Search for questions similar to your own before submitting them to the community

  • by pizzamonster,

    pizzamonster pizzamonster Sep 15, 2011 12:27 PM in response to lucafrombrooklyn
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    Sep 15, 2011 12:27 PM in response to lucafrombrooklyn

    I understand Apple wants:

    • full control over the device and thus needs to force user behavior in a way
    • the same OS on multiple devices (OSX + iOS) / 2 = future os.
    • combinations of devices (iPad + MBPro) / 2 = future device.
    • the best for us.

     

    Everybody makes mistakes Apple! Quality matters and sometimes that means Undo of a feature (or Revert .. if you like); disable autosave and enable the filesystem on iOS devices for those who like ...

  • by enamic5,

    enamic5 enamic5 Sep 15, 2011 4:16 PM in response to lucafrombrooklyn
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    Sep 15, 2011 4:16 PM in response to lucafrombrooklyn

    Can't wait for an option to get versions and autosave disabled. working with my 600MB keynote portfolio files gets near impossible. takes forever and is it me or is my disc space running out quicker and quicker?

  • by fuzzydog,

    fuzzydog fuzzydog Sep 15, 2011 5:35 PM in response to enamic5
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    Sep 15, 2011 5:35 PM in response to enamic5

    The solution to the keynote problem is to downgrade keynote to version 5.05. This is the one without autosave enabled. Search for a post of mine in a long discussion about keynote and Lion for the directions on how to do it. Keynote version 5.05 works flawlessly with Lion sans autosave. You need a Yvan Koenig script to get it done and an earlier version of iwork to install.

     

    By the way, for those who think that autosave is an unimportant workflow issue that is complained of only by whiners who can't deal with change - they are dead wrong in the case of keynote and autosave. Autosave makes keynote 5.1 completely useless and unusable. This is clearly not a mere workflow issue in the case of people who depend on keynote in their business and professional lives.

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