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  • 435. Re: I bailed on Lion
    Tom in London Level 4 Level 4 (1,585 points)

    Quote " I can tell you that Office 2008 is not compatible with Lion."

     

    I am running Office 2008 on Lion with no problems whatever.

  • 436. Re: I bailed on Lion
    softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)

    Tom in London wrote:

     

    Quote " I can tell you that Office 2008 is not compatible with Lion."

     

    I am running Office 2008 on Lion with no problems whatever.

     

    ...and next someone will post to say "but the installer is PPC and doesn't work in Lion"

     

    to which we'll all say 'you don't need to install it if you upgraded from SL'.

     

    And if Lion came with your Mac? Well, you have a couple of choices:

     

    i. Try for yourself that the installer doesn't work. I'm not sure anyone has confirmed this.

    ii. Download open source Office-compatible alternative 'Libreoffice' for free.

    OR

    iii. Upgrade to Word 2011...!

  • 437. Re: I bailed on Lion
    kenem Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    keats2010 wrote:

     

    It never ceases to amaze me as to the differences in experiences on installing a new Mac OS. I have been using Macs since version 8 and every new release is howled down. In my opinion, Tiger and Leopard were probably the two best releases. But I updated to Snow Leopard without a hitch and now to Lion without a problem. A few interface changes to get used to. Nothing dramatic. All my Adobe and Office programs flying along, Logic Pro 7.2.3 and Garageband, iTunes etc. not a hiccup and all on an earlier Macbook Pro with a 2.16 processor, and only 3 GB memory. I have kept it very clean, always backed up, always run DiskWarrior regularly. So again, here is a very happy Lion customer, maybe because I wasn't expecting a world changing incarnation. Love Mission Control and Launchpad and wouldn't return to Snow Leopard for anything now. Roll on Apple, Keeping it great. (Although I would like the scroll arrows back! lol)

     

    Frankly I don't believe you, or maybe you've got really low expectations.

  • 438. Re: I bailed on Lion
    putnik Level 3 Level 3 (690 points)

    I see from this table that Microsoft Office 2008 is not compatible with Lion. But everybody had plenty of warnings to check app compatibilities before installing Lion.

     

    http://roaringapps.com/apps:table

  • 439. Re: I bailed on Lion
    softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)

    Sorry, but you misread the table. It says 'it was tested and had some problems'. Which is true; I've experienced disappearing cursors and a few hangs. That's not 'incompatible', those are bugs in Lion.

     

    Only 2004 is incompatible.

  • 440. Re: I bailed on Lion
    Ricky Green Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I did revert to sl and I believe I need to buy a new machine with Lion installed then I may take the advantage of Lion. I can't work for few days because of upgrade. What a bad experience.

  • 441. Re: I bailed on Lion
    putnik Level 3 Level 3 (690 points)

    Sorry, but "it was tested and had some problems" indicates to me that it is not entirely compatible with Lion. Other third party vendors introduce updates to their apps to ensure compatibility and so did Microsoft, with Office 2011. 

  • 442. Re: I bailed on Lion
    softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)
    Lion tries to solve a bunch of problems nobody had. And introduced a huge range of bugs in doing so.    

     

    Which reminded me of this point from another user very early in this thread, which I think sums up my whole reaction to Lion, and the reason why I too reverted to SL a month after upgrading:

  • 443. Re: I bailed on Lion
    softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)

    putnik wrote:

     

    Sorry, but "it was tested and had some problems" indicates to me that it is not entirely compatible with Lion. Other third party vendors introduce updates to their apps to ensure compatibility and so did Microsoft, with Office 2011. 

     

    That may be what it means to you, but conventionally 'incompatible' means it won't run on the system. Office 2008 will run on the system, and for some people, like TominLondon, does so fine, so I don't think you've got any call to say it is 'incompatible' unless you intend to mislead people.

     

    EDIT: Office 2011 wasn't an update for Lion, it was released before Lion, and it too had problems and needed its own update.

  • 444. Re: I bailed on Lion
    keats2010 Level 2 Level 2 (285 points)

    Hi Kenem, frankly I couldn't care if you believe me or not. This forum is set up for complaints. The millions with no problems have no reason to post here. I have high expectations of Apple and again they have come through. Perhaps it may pay to have a look at you computing habits and how up to date you keep things. I have nothing to gain by lying. But plenty to gain by having my laptop flying along on Lion. Happy computing pal.

  • 445. Re: I bailed on Lion
    Ricky Green Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    A month? I can't believe because I tried three days and made me job not done? I reverted to Sl immediate . How I ca setting infront of my iMac without working.

  • 446. Re: I bailed on Lion
    Bunyip in a Mini Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    I've been using it for just on 2 months without a problem. In fact I love it.

  • 447. Re: I bailed on Lion
    hexonxonx Level 4 Level 4 (2,455 points)

    I've been using Lion on my 2009 MBP since launch and only had one issue. A few days ago, I started getting beachballs constantly while doing anything including iTunes and Safari. It got so bad that during one beachball episode, I had no choice but to press and hold the power button to reboot. Upon rebooting, the computer was stuck on the white Apple screen and the spinning wheel froze. I had to repair permissions to get the computer to boot up again. Since then it has been fine and business as usual. No plans to downgrade to SL.

     

    On my 2008 black MB, it was a different story. The fan would spin up to the highest speed almost continuously. Simply coming to this site would make the fans spin on high. I was afraid to run the MB on battery power for fear it would last barely an hour instead of four on SL.  I restored to the backup I made just prior to the Lion launch date and have kept it on SL ever since. The MB has 4GB ram, 2.4GHZ with a 320GB drive. I know the black MBs always had a heat issue but this was rediculous.

     

    I love Lion on the MBP but on the MB, it wasn't a good experience.

  • 448. Re: I bailed on Lion
    putnik Level 3 Level 3 (690 points)

    "I don't think you've got any call to say it is 'incompatible' unless you intend to mislead people."

     

     

    Screen Shot 2011-09-20 at 10.10.24.jpg

     

    I'm not misleading anyone, nor is RoaringApps. Neither is it a "bug in Lion". Micosoft have a version which works in Lion.

  • 449. Re: I bailed on Lion
    softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)

    Yeah, I can understand that given all that I've read since July 21st!

     

    But for me, Lion was not that buggy. I reverted because I didn't like it.

     

    I reverted because I didn't want Resume, Autosave and Versions. Nor do I want iCloud (coming soon), nor do I want LaunchPad, which is a waste of space, nor do I appreciate the lack of coloured icons in the sidebar of Finder or the bizarre and unreadable icons in the menubar of Mail.

     

    I reverted because although I didn't mind Mission Control, it wasn't worth the price of losing the 4-finger swipe app switcher, and nor is it fully developed yet (it needs, and I trust will get, a lot of work).

     

    I reverted because, having given up Pages (because of Versions/Autosave) I went back to MS Office but (to connect with my discussion with Putnik), that had problems and I couldn't wait for the update. I reverted because QuarkXpress, one of my main work tools, had all its hotkey's reassigned by Lion, and I couldn't get some of them back no matter how much messing around I did with the Keyboard layout and prefs.

     

    I reverted because my dual monitor set up was harder to use than it had been, and I reverted because my wifi became a pain in the ***, sometimes dropping and always throwing up a network capture screen that didn't work when in coffee shops and other locations.

     

    I reverted because the things I did like about Lion (XCode 4, Preview, Mail's 'conversations') were not worth the the destruction of my workflow and the reduction in usability. And finally, and most crucially, I reverted because Lion's crashing of Word one day nearly made me miss a deadline at work. That was the final straw.

     

    I still have Lion on an external drive and will keep it updated; undobutedly, I will have to upgrade to it when I want a new Mac (this one's probably got about two more years life in it, hopefully), so there's no point in just leaving it behind.

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