Currently Being ModeratedOct 1, 2011 6:25 PM (in response to aRock10)
I can't exactly help, but your comments are interesting. I bought and returned a Mac book pro and thunderbolt display for basically the same reasons. As shoon as I would do anything, the fans would speed up. I couldn't handle the loud noise and took them back.
Now I am interested in a MBA and thunderbolt display because my current MBA never gets too loud even under a load. But I never thout that the connection to the thunderbolt display might be the problem.
I wish you could test this stuff, but it's simply too loud in the apple store to tell if anything is loud or not.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 2, 2011 1:04 PM (in response to jeffkempster)
I'm noticing the same thing. have an 11" MBA and when it's attached to the thunderbolt display it is "cooling" all the time. Even when I tell it to sleep.
Between this and the weird USB keyboard issues (when USB KB attached to the Thunderbolt), I expect a firmware update sometime soon.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 2, 2011 3:29 PM (in response to posthocergopropterhoc)
I haven't had to connect a USB keyboard but that's even stranger. I do expect a firm ware update soon but I'm almost tempted to have the genius bar see what they think.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 2, 2011 11:45 PM (in response to aRock10)
I just recently got a MBA 13" i7 and a thunderbolt. Having the same issue here and is driving me crazy. Without the thunderbolt display you don't hear the fan running at all.
Hope there's a fix soon.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 2, 2011 11:57 PM (in response to xmlsnocat)
I seem to be having the same problem on 11" with i7.
The CPU load is 2%-5%, but the CPU temp is 80° C. Fan is constantly on when connected to thunderbolt.
I especially noticed this last night when I lay in bed (not connected to thunderbird), watching YouTube clips, and the fan wasn't noticeable at all. I can't be sure that it's due to the thunderbolt display, but I've been having this issue ever since I replaced my 27" Cinema Display with the 27" Thunderbolt display.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 5, 2011 5:08 AM (in response to aRock10)
I have MBA 13"/ i7 have exact same issue. If I reset the SMC the problem goes away. However I have to do this everytime i dock / undock from the thunderbolt display. Very annoying!
Currently Being ModeratedOct 5, 2011 4:32 PM (in response to cbanzhof)
I reset the SMC which worked and fortunately I don't have to undock my MBAir too often but it's still a problem.
I'm newer to these apple support forums ... How does a problem like this get flagged enough for the Apple developers to look into it?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 8, 2011 9:46 AM (in response to aRock10)
I have a current gen MacBook Air 11" i7 and use an Apple USB keyboard attached to the Thunderbolt display. I am experiencing both the fan issue and regular keystroke loss from the USB keyboard, which is getting very annoying!
Currently Being ModeratedNov 11, 2011 1:28 PM (in response to cbanzhof)
Just an update and additional info on this problem.
After experimenting I've found a couple of other things that alleviate the heat/fan noise. In my case, I believe it is caused by operating the MB Air in clamshell mode (lid closed) with the Thunderbolt display attached. If you feel the Thunderbolt connector and surrounding area operating in this mode it is fairly warm. iStat reports approximately 103-107 degrees (f) for the enclosure base which presumably is enough heat to rev the exhaust fans to 6500rpm.
Here is what I did to resolve.
1. Make sure the MB Air is well ventilated. I have placed mine on a elevated laptop stand so that the heat dissapates easier.
2. I leave the lid open just enough (less than an inch) so that the heat can dissapate from the enclosure base more easily. This still allows the MB air to drive the screen output to the thunderbolt display only instead of using mirroring or dual display mode.
Ive been running in this mode for the 2nd day in a row and fans / temp have been normal. Fan speed around 2k RPM and enclosure bases around 97 degrees (f)
Hope this helps. And Apple is listening...
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2011 8:00 AM (in response to cbanzhof)
Sounds good. The fan hasn't been on as much since the latest OS update but I'll give the "open less than an inch" thing a try since I use the machine in clamshell mode 95% of the time. I do plan on getting a stand in the future.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 17, 2011 4:10 AM (in response to aRock10)
Having the same problem..
Macbook air 11" i5 mid 2011 and Thunderbolt display. Fan over 6000rpm while CPU usage around 1%. The latest update took away the problem for a few days but than it came back.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 17, 2011 8:12 AM (in response to aRock10)
I have the same problem as of today (11/17/11) and confirm that the problem occurs with the MBA open all the time. In fact, it may be worse since in this case, the graphics chip is driving the internal display AND the thunderbolt display. I don't have an external keyboard so it's hard to operate with the laptop closed for comparison. I have a new top of the line MBA 11".
Currently Being ModeratedNov 18, 2011 10:16 AM (in response to aRock10)
I'm having the same problem. I use an Apple wireless keyboard and trackpad with the MBA when connected with the Tbolt display.
Common problems when the MBA is attached with lid closed:
- On screen movements become choppy or slow significantly (i.e. moving windows around, opening new windows, etc.)
- iTunes video play becomes too choppy to watch
- Fan turns on (a lot)
- Once overheated so much that the MBA automatically shut down and couldn't be rebooted until it cooled.
I took both into the Genius Bar and they asked that I leave the MBA with them so they could run diagnostics. I won't be able to do this until mid-December.
A solution I found is to leave the cover open on the MBA. This allows enough ventiliation to cool it, but is ultimately inferior since closing the MBA was one of the features that attracted me to the Tbolt display.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 18, 2011 10:25 AM (in response to DWMaloney)
I haven't experienced anything more than the fan issue but this may be an obvious question: Have you updated to the latest TBolt firmware?
I believe another update was released 2 or 3 days ago which now my fan seems a bit better unless I'm doing some intense work or video.