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wait for iPhone 5 (2013?) or go with 4S?

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Rob A. Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)
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Oct 4, 2011 11:32 PM

I was an iPhone 2G then 3G owner but moved to HTC EVO 4G with Sprint because I live in cities that have 4G LTe (in addition to the iOS4 rendering my iPhone 3G useless and AT&T's really poor coverage).  I was hoping the next iPhone would have 4G LTe support espeically now that Sprint are on the iPhone 4S list ... but sadly the 4S doesn't have 4G LTe which seems odd given the Verizon has 4G as does Sprint??

 

On my HTC EVO 4G the speed difference between 3G and 4G LTe is pretty significant ... when running speed tests, on average 4G LTe provides real world 6.5 Mbps down and 1.3 Mbps up ... run the same speed test in 3G and I'm right around 0.51 Mbps down and 0.49 Mbps up.

 

So I'm debating whether to wait for the iPhone 5 (which I have to assume must be 4G LTe capable) ... assume 16-18 months away or go with the 4S?

 

Other than a better camera and voice recognition (Siri), what other cool new features can the 4S do?

 

The sample pictures from the iPhone 4S appear to be pretty good (assume they haven't been touched up) ... the camera in my HTC EVO 4G is pretty bad, espeically in low light.  But voice recognition in my HTC EVO 4G is pretty good and can do everything Siri appears to be able to do, so that's not a big selling point for me ... need something more

 

Is iMessage limited to just iPhone, iPad, and iPod?  Or will it work with other services like Windows Messenger and other instant chat services?

 

Will iOS5 for 4S finally support plug-ins like Flash, Silverlight so that all the web sites I use will work correctly on the 4S?

 

I like the idea of iCloud, but being limited to a 3G connection I would think that might not work so well with large picture files and video files?  Or is iCloud restricted to just a wireless connection and disabled when 3G only is available?

 

Also, will the 4S work as an access point for a MacBook or a iPad that doesn't have 3G?

 

I know, a lot of question, but I'm wondering if it's time to dump my HTC EVO 4G and return to iPhone or if it's best to wait some more for the iPhone 5.

 

Thanks, Rob.

  • igmackenzie Level 4 Level 4 (2,275 points)
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    Oct 5, 2011 1:34 AM (in response to Rob A.)

    Some answers:

    1) iOS5 has lots of cool features, although they are available to iPhone 4 users too.  Look at http://www.apple.com/ios/

    2) iMessage just works with other iOS5 devices

    3) no, there will NEVER be 'support' for Flash, partly because Adobe has given up trying to produce a version that'll work on iOS devices

    4) iCloud Photostream only syncs over wi-fi

    5) tethering is possible, but you'll have to check with your particular carrier for details.

  • UK-Max Level 2 Level 2 (285 points)
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    Oct 5, 2011 2:02 AM (in response to igmackenzie)

    igmackenzie wrote:

     

    Some answers:

    1) iOS5 has lots of cool features, although they are available to iPhone 4 users too.  Look at http://www.apple.com/ios/

    2) iMessage just works with other iOS5 devices

    3) no, there will NEVER be 'support' for Flash, partly because Adobe has given up trying to produce a version that'll work on iOS devices

    4) iCloud Photostream only syncs over wi-fi

    5) tethering is possible, but you'll have to check with your particular carrier for details.

    I think you're correct in all but use of that word 'Never'.

  • igmackenzie Level 4 Level 4 (2,275 points)
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    Oct 5, 2011 2:08 AM (in response to UK-Max)

    How much would you like to bet on that?

    IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Adobe has given up trying. 

    Still, the last thing we want to do is start up another discussion on that subject. There has been more than enough bandwidth wasted already.

  • Vossing Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 5, 2011 2:10 AM (in response to UK-Max)

    I still use my iPhone 2G bought in 2007! And it's still working!

     

    I was looking forward to a quite new iPhone with new design and with new possibilities.

     

    Now I am not sure if my next phone is Samsung Galaxy II S or Apple 4S.

  • UK-Max Level 2 Level 2 (285 points)
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    Oct 5, 2011 2:16 AM (in response to igmackenzie)

    Is it inconceivabe that Apple (sitting on mountains of cash, as they are) would not buy Adobe? I think from a purely capatalist view that not only is it possible, it makes sense. Once in the Apple stable, would Flash remain a pariah? Of course it wouldn't.

     

    It's the Never that I object to, and that kind of timescale really negates the option of a bet, don't you think?

  • igmackenzie Level 4 Level 4 (2,275 points)
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    Oct 5, 2011 2:20 AM (in response to UK-Max)

    You're right about the bet!  However, I'm not getting into another Flash discussion.  It's pointless.

  • Chamar Level 4 Level 4 (2,035 points)
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    Oct 5, 2011 2:40 AM (in response to Vossing)

    Been a happy iPhone 3G user for some time and coming to end of contract with O2 next month and am eligible for an upgrade.

     

    Recently played with a friends Galaxy II S and was totally blown away.  It's now a toss up between the 4S and the Samsung both of which O2 will offer me as an upgrade. 

     

    I'll reserve judgement until I get some hands on time with a 4S but at the moment the Samsung looks promising. I have a 3G iPad2 for the IOS5/iCloud stuff.

     

    Fortunately I have an Apple store and an O2 store in the same mall 15 minutes drive away so it will be an easy decision.

  • diesel vdub Level 7 Level 7 (20,665 points)
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    Oct 5, 2011 6:10 AM (in response to Rob A.)

    Keep in mind that Sprint does not currently have an LTE network or any LTE devices.  The EVO is definitely not an LTE device, it is Wi-Max.  No other carrier in the US is using Wi-Max.

     

    AT&T only has 5 cities live with LTE.

    Verizon has much more coverage on LTE, but to the best of my knowledge all voice traffic is still going over their CDMA network.

     

    LTE simply is not far enough in it's life cycle for Apple to bet on it.  They did the same thing with the original iPhone making it an EDGE only device and it sold like hotcakes.  Lack of "4G" LTE is going to have minimal if any affect on sales.    

  • igmackenzie Level 4 Level 4 (2,275 points)
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    Oct 5, 2011 9:11 AM (in response to Rob A.)

    Rob A. wrote:

    Although Apple certainly have improved market share for 2011, they are still not the major player.  Nokia 29.2%, Samsung 18.8%, LG 6.6%, Apple 5.0%, and ATE 4.1%, others 36.3% ...

    They are the major player in the Smartphone market @ 28%, and that is the important fact.

  • Rudegar Level 6 Level 6 (18,410 points)
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    Oct 5, 2011 9:59 AM (in response to Rob A.)

    so far apple have released a new iphone version each year so not sure what you get the whole 2013 from

  • Buegie Level 6 Level 6 (13,330 points)
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    Oct 5, 2011 10:14 AM (in response to Rudegar)

    Rudegar wrote:

     

    so far apple have released a new iphone version each year so not sure what you get the whole 2013 from

     

    So they have less then 14.6 months to release the next iPhone within the 2012 calendar year?

     

    Given the most recent release history, this may or may not be feasible.  Only time will tell.

     

    Jan/Feb of 2013 would be my decidedly uneducated guess.

     

    Best of Luck

  • vazandrew Level 6 Level 6 (12,920 points)
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    Oct 5, 2011 10:16 AM (in response to Rob A.)

    Apple tried to work with adobe to make Flash work and it didn't happen, it would have been up to Adobe. But there's no point going over that as it's been discussed many times.

     

    4G simply isn't available in enough locations and needs to evolve a bit more as stated earlier.

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