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ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)

Some starting out information

 

I created this post to inform others of the various and essential ways to restore your machine, data, create backups and so forth.

10.6 and 10.7 are mostly covered with information current as of Oct 4, 2011 and subject to human error and change.

 

Only conduct any actions here if your prepared to take action on your own, the risk is yours, if not please seek assistance of qualified professional data recovery experts. Any product or site mention/link is purely for assistance purposes, doesn't represent a endorsement by me or Apple. Legalese blah.

 

 

Having many separate hardware copies

 

...of your data is essential, as the OS and programs can be replaced, but not your personal files (normally kept in your User folders of Music, Documents, Pictures, Sites, Movies etc.)

 

Apple currently doesn't supply much in the way of data recovery services, it's on YOU to make sure you have many copies of your personal data and perhaps many ways to restore your machine to a functional state.

 

 

There are three basic primary forms of backup and restore methods used on Macs, no one way is perfect, so a combination of ways may be better suited for your needs, but redundancy of methods and backups is the key.

 

 

1: TimeMachine Drive - which is a rotating in time image of your boot drive contents. If you remove something from your boot drive, eventually it will be removed from TimeMachine drive as well. TimeMachine drives cannot be booted from and can only restore. This is a very good basic option for most new to computers users as it's all automated (as long as the drive is connected) and gives "undelete" ability. It's not a complete solution and that's what the next two options are for.

 

Please, for your own sake if you don't have any backup plan or don't undestand geek speak, at least connect a new external drive and let automatic  TimeMachine popup do it's buisness.

 

 

From here on out everything TimeMachine, including restoring from a TM drive, I point you to our resident expert Pondini and his web page.

 

http://web.me.com/pondini/Time_Machine/Home.html

 

 

The steps here below out are a bit more advanced, but if you master them you will be in control of your computer and can save yourself.

 

 

2: Data / Storage Drives - these are drives that basically act as holders of data you wish to store, they don't do anything but hold your personal files in a permanent fashion unless you remove it. These are what one would use if their primary boot drive on their computer is getting full, since TimeMachine is a self rotating image, that can't be used for permanent or extra storage space. And clones are bootable images of the current boot drive, so they are subject to change as well. For all intensive purposes if you want to make sure your data doesn't disappear, to hold your personal data while your wiping your entire boot drive of all data and restoring OS X completely (aka "fresh install method"), then you use plain jane storage drives and maintain two separate hardware backups of your data at all times.

 

 

3: Hold the option key bootable Clone drive- these are (almost) exact images of your OS X partition and it's contents. The advantage with clones is in case your internal drive fails to boot, either for software or hardware reasons, you can boot from a clone, perform data recovery, drive repair and most of all get online, get help, and use your computer like almost nothing happened. In other words your life doesn't immediately stop to address a failed computer, you can in most cases continue working and resolve the issue later, or in the case of a software issue, just reverse clone form the latest clone image.

 

You can keep "states" of your OS X partition in a more permanent fashion unlike TimeMachine. For instance if your considering on upgrading to a new OS X version and not sure it will work, you can fall back onto the previous version of OS X at any time provided you made a clone first. Think of a clone as moving all your software to another piece of hardware and everything is almost exactly as it was before. Clones are the preferred method to upgrading to a new internal drive of perhaps larger capacity or speed.

 

Because of differences in computer hardware, you can't use a clone created on one Mac on another type of Mac. Only the same exact model can be perhaps be imaged to other Mac's. If your thinking this would be a nice way to pirate software, forget it. Each Mac has a ID associated with along with other identifying information.

 

Cloning software most Mac users use is Carbon Copy Cloner, (first and totally free, donations accepted) or Superduper (part free, part payware)

 

 

Drive size for clones: equal too or larger than the drive you intend to clone. If your going to upgrade the internal drive, then naturally one that matches or exceeds the new internal drive so you can use it as a clone afterwards. Best to clone to a larger drive than the original, as your data could exceed the smaller capacity drive.

 

 

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Drive formatting 

 

Drive formatting is IMPORTANT and needs to be performed before a drive is used for the first time. Doesn't matter what it's used for a wrongly formatted drive can cause trouble later down the road if you don't understand drive maps and formatting. Apple's Disk Utility is the program used to format drives on a Mac, you can find it in the Applications/Utilities folder.

 

Partition Maps

 

These are roadmap instructions to how many partitions (separate areas on the physical drive) there are and what format they contain. Unfortunately not all operating systems can read others partition map schemes. So when one gets a NEW drive, it has to be completely erased and formatted to meet the partition map needs of the operating system and/or firmware used on the computer.

 

For instance Mac's need a GUID Partition Table (GPT), Windows uses a Master Boot Record (MBR), Linux uses either and reads anything.

 

Mac's can use a MBR as it can read some Windows drive formats, trouble is you won't be able to boot from any partition or drive with OS X on it without a GPT.

 

Since most drives come from the factory formatted MBR with a Fat32 (MSDOS) drive format, in order to use the drive on a Mac you need to format it GPT and OS X Extended (Journaled) (aka HFS+) in Apple's Disk Utility before using it.

 

If you place data on the drive and then realize it's the wrong partition map scheme and need to change it, then all the data off all the partitions on the entire drive must be removed first.

 

If you place data on a partition and you need to format it differently, you need to get the data off only that partition your going to reformat.

 

 

Current drive formats - there are many different formats how data is placed on the drive, and a drive can have many partitions each with a different format!

 

Windows currently uses:

 

NTFS  - used primarily for the operating system, but external drives can also be formatted this way

 

FAT32 (MSDOS in Apple's Disk Utility) this is a universal format between PC's and Macs, but limited to 4GB file sizes.

 

exFAT a new patented pending format both Mac's and PC's can currently read/write, it can have files in excesses of 4GB in size.

 

   (if you have Windows XP, a free exFAT download from Microsoft is available, just search for it)

 

 

Mac's OS X currently uses:

 

HFS+  (OS X Extended Journaled) required to boot OS X. All new Mac's come formatted this way, and perhaps some drive sold at Apple.

 

FAT32 (MSDOS) file exchange with PC's to 4GB sized files. Most drives sold in regular computer and office stores come formatted this way for PC's. (with a MBR)

 

exFAT - file exchange with PC's over 4GB sized files (Mac's pre 10.6.5 won't have exFAT)

 

 

 

Linux currently uses EXT4 for itself, can read/write anything.

 

 

Software called MacDrive installed on a Windows machine can read Apple's HFS formats.

 

Software like Tuxera, 3GNTFS, Paragon, allows Mac's to read the NTFS format of Windows drives.

 

It is PREFERRED not to rely upon third party software for reading drive formats, rather use a interchangeable format like FAT32 or exFAT instead.

 

 

When formatted a drive for both PC and Mac use, it's perhaps easier to format it on Windows into FAT32 or exFAT first, so you get the MBR, then confirm it works, then on the Mac before using it to transfer vital data over long distances.

 

 

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Apple's Disk Utility allows one more partition to be carved out from the bottom clear existing OS X partition, you will learn all about this if you going the BootCamp route with Windows. I don't advise messing around unless you made backups of your data first.

 

When Bootcamp creates the Window partition it formats it MSDOS (FAT32) which you have to change to NTFS on the Windows installer disk before you can install Windows. Make sure you printout and read the Bootcamp instructions and have the Mac hardware drivers on hand.

 

If your machine keeps booting into Windows and gets stuck, simply hold the option key upon boot to select OS X and set OS X as the start up disk in System Preferences.

 

https://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/

 

 

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Restoring OS X 10.5 10.6. 10.7 - simple overwrite OS method

 

Ok, you got a OS X problem and you want to just reinstall OS X (and bundled Apple programs) without touching anything else, not your files or most third party programs.

 

1: Backup your user files via drag and drop methods of your User folders (Music, Documents, Pictures, Movies etc) regardless to a data drive as outlined above, as the problem you may be having could be more serious, like a hardware or firmware issue. Disconnect all other drives.

 

2: For Snow Leopard and Leopard - stick the original grey disk (free iLife included) into the computer and reboot holding down c, simply reinstall OS X (archive and install for Leopard)

 

If you upgraded Snow Leopard over Leopard, then your going to be using the white Snow Leopard Retail disks (no free iLife) and it naturally won't replace iLife, just OS X.

 

3: For Lion, you need a reliable, fast Internet connection. Hold Command r and boot into Lion Recovery, get online and simply reinstall Lion. You'll have to use the AppStore to download iLife.

 

4: Once you have done this and rebooted normally, immediately Software Update under the Apple Menu so your Apple programs match your files (like iPhoto Library and  iTunes Library that were changed with later versions)

 

5: Any programs you bought via App Store can be redownloaded by holding option key and clicking on Purchases.

 

Note: if you have installed root level system third party software, it may not function anymore, simply reinstall it from original sources.

 

 

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Restoring OS X - 10.6  "fresh install method"

 

 

1: Backup your user files via drag and drop methods of your User folders (Music, Documents, Pictures, Movies etc) regardless to a data drive as outlined above, as the problem you may be having could be more serious, like a hardware or firmware issue. Disconnect all other drives.

 

2: Hold c and boot off the 10.6 grey disks (or if you want the free iLife on the 10.5 disks, then that first, then upgrade to 10.6) and use Disk Utility under the Utilities menu to erase the internal drive media.

 

Select media on left, click partition, click big box, select 1 partition, option GUID, format OS X Extended (journ) give it the same drive name as before, (to match pathnames used in your iTunes and other files to locate where music is stored on the drive) Format OS X Extended journaled click Apply and confirm.

 

Optional for privacy/security or for all new drives for better data retention. Select the drive, erase tab, erase>Security option Zero all data. Takes about a hour per 500GB.

 

3: When finished quit and install OS X Snow Leopard and reboot and see the familiar Welcome to Mac animation. (if you shutdown after installing, this makes a nice way to treat the new owner of your used Mac and lets then go through the setup process.)

 

4: When creating the new user, use the same user name as before, this again, like the same drive name, matches the pathnames in files to locate other files on your drive when you return your files. Use a different password naturally.

 

5: Next you install all your programs next, the more the better as they will run faster on hard drives if they are placed further near the front of the drive.

 

6: Lastly hook up your external data drive and move just the contents of your Music, Document, Pictures etc folders right back into their respective new folders on the new configuration.

 

Note: If you used this method to downgrade from Lion. It's possible your iPhoto and iTunes Library (and other Apple programs) may have altered their respective files. You need to be careful replacing the old copies with the newer altered versions. You can right or option click on iPhoto Library to "show package contents" to find the folder with the originals and re-import into the older iPhoto version format. For iTunes, the originals are in the folder, if you have  copy of the older iTunes Library files, then replace with those.  Ideally it's best to first make a Snow clone first BEFORE messing with Lion.

 

Note: Only a Mac that had Snow previously can be downgraded from Lion back to Snow, not a Mac that had Lion from the factory (some under certain circumstances)

 

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Restoring OS X - 10.7 - wipe and install

 

1: Backup your user files via drag and drop methods of your User folders (Music, Documents, Pictures, Movies etc) regardless to a data drive as outlined above, as the problem you may be having could be more serious, like a hardware or firmware issue. Disconnect all other drives.

 

2: You have two options depending upon if your Mac had Snow Leopard previously. If it did, then you can go the above Restoring OS X - 10.6 "fresh install method" and then make a clone, then update to Lion via the AppStore with a very strong, reliable, fast Internet connection.

 

3: Your Mac came with OS X Lion, then you hold Command R and boot into Lion Recovery Partition, get online, use Disk Utility to Erase (and Zero if needed) the Lion OS X Partition, then quit and simply reinstall Lion from the menu.

 

 

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Restoring OS X 10.7 (new drive, total reformat method)

 

1: Backup your user files via drag and drop methods of your User folders (Music, Documents, Pictures, Movies etc) regardless to a data drive as outlined above, as the problem you may be having could be more serious, like a hardware or firmware issue. Disconnect all other drives.

 

This method is for restoring Lion drive completely, including restoring a Lion Recovery Partition and reestablishing a GUID Partition Table (GPT) on the drive for machines that don't have Lion Internet Recovery. This could occur if the hard drive was replaced, the GPT got messed up, more than 2 multi-partition machines or whatever.

 

As you know Apple only allows one more partition to be created using Disk Utility, any more partitions on the drive require a complete GPT reformat.

 

2: You need to have a copy of your Lion Recovery Partition on a 1GB or larger USB stick created first using the Lion Recovery Disk Assistant software from Apple that copies YOUR PRESENT Lion Recovery Partition. So that means you need to have this made as soon as possible in advance or your going to have to buy the $69 Lion USB installer if you can't do the 10.6 to 10.7 upgrade method.

 

Lion Recovery Disk Assistant.

 

You must first FORMAT the USB GPT and OSX Extended (journ) in Disk Utility before using the Lion Recovery Disk Assistant.

 

https://support.apple.com/kb/dl1433

 

 

3: Stick the USB in, reboot the machine holding option key and get online, use Disk Utility to format the drive

 

Select media on left, click partition, click big box, select 1 partition, option GUID, format OS X Extended (journ) give it the same drive name as before, (to match pathnames used in your iTunes and other files to locate where music is stored on the drive)  Format OS X Extended journaled click Apply and confirm.

 

Optional for privacy/security or for all new drives for better data retention. Select the drive, erase tab, erase>Security option Zero all data. Takes about a hour per 500GB.

 

4: Formatting the drive like this will rebuilt the GPT if it was broken. Reinstall Lion from the menu and it will install Lion Recovery Partition and Lion at the same time.

 

If you have one of those new Mac's with Lion Internet Recovery, it's built into the firmware, so after a new drive install, rebooting should start the whole process automatically.

 

 

5: If you have a clone of OS X Lion previously made, then simply option boot from it and reverse clone it onto the OS X Lion Partition. When you clone 10.7 (and only 10.7) it just clones the OS X Lion Partition. Not the Lion Recovery Partition. That's why you need to reinstall the Lion Recovery Partition first (steps 1-4 above) then replace the Lion configuration with the previous cloned version.. You can choose to reverse clone the Lion Partition only, the machine will work without Lion Recovery Partition, but you may have need of it one day.

 

 

6: If you don't have a previous clone of your 10.7 OS X partition then when creating the new user, use the same user name as before, this again, like the same drive name as before, matches the pathnames in files iTunes uses to locate other files on your drive when you return your files. Use a different password naturally.

 

7: Next you install all your programs next, the more the better as they will run faster on hard drives if they are placed further near the front of the drive.

 

8: Lastly hook up your external data drive and move just the contents of your Music, Document, Pictures, Movies etc folders right back into their respective new folders on the new configuration.

 

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Click on a picture to enlarge, drag and drop onto your desktop for keeping a copy, or use Command Shift 4 to take a picture.

 

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MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 17" i7, XP, Vista, 7, Linux(s)
  • 1. Re: Backup, cloning, restoring; useful info.
    ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)

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  • 2. Re: Backup, restoring, formatting info
    softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)

    Fantastic - I wish I'd read this two years ago before learning the hard way!

     

    A great resource which I'll recommend widely. Thank you!

  • 3. Re: Backup, restoring, formatting info
    ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)

    Some afterthoughts after that massive brain dump.

     

    Always try to leave yourself with a way to get online and get assistance. Unexpected issues always popup, it's good to have some thing else to option boot from to be able to download and use software, burn disks, format drives etc. Keep your options open as much as possible. Stay connected to help.

     

    If you like to experiment, don't do it on your only machine, don't void your warranty by opening a machine not designed to be opened by the user, or if it is, break or change things inside that are outside of what Apple covers. (some machines the RAM, storage and are fine, MacPro can also change the video card and add other cards internally.)

     

    Lion Recovery Partition has the web browser Safari and after getting online, you can come here. But to log in and post you need to know your Apple ID and password.

     

    Lion Data Recovery Drive creation in Lion is the same way as it is in Snow Leopard, but you Command r boot into the Lion Recovery Partition to format the blank external drive and install Lion, then option boot from it to access the troubled Lion OS X Partition and remove files. The Lion Recovery Partition is too small and not designed to hold or transfer files, perhaps that will change in updates to perform this vital function.

     

     

     

    Setting up a wifi router

     

    there is really only one secure way left to make sure your not hacked. WEP and WPA are both cracked. A too small of a password is easily brute forced by new graphics based cracking software and worldwide botnets.

     

    1: Update your router firmware. For Airport it's easy, just use Software Update and/or update in Airport Utility.

     

    2: WPA2 (AES) Personal easier (or Enterprise)

     

    3: 2 - Random 20+ letter, number, character, symbol, case passwords. One for the Admin use of the router only, kept off the machine and locked in a safe, the other for Internet Access only used on all devices.  A password this strong will take until the next Big Bang to crack, perhaps a quarter of that as technology improves. Certainly not in your lifetime.

     

    4: MAC address filtering and invisible networks are no match for hackers. Don't bother.

     

    5: Rotate the Internet Access password to keep people you don't want back on, from coming back. Once they have the password it's logged permanently into their machines. They could delete it, but most don't know they can or won't.

     

     

    Make bootable copies of your Snow Leopard install disks here.

     

    http://www.walterjessen.com/make-a-bootable-backup-snow-leopard-install-disc/

     

     

    Make a bootable Snow Leopard USB here

     

    http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html

     

     

    Lion bootable DVD's and USB.

     

    If you can download Lion from the AppStore, make bootable DVD's and USB's here BEFORE you install Lion, else Option click on Purchases and try to download again.

    Only works on the same machine as far as I know at this time.

     

    Bonus here is you don't need no stinking Internet.

     

    http://eggfreckles.net/notes/burning-a-lion-boot-disc/

     

    http://blog.gete.net/lion-diskmaker-us/

     

    http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/08/make-a-bootable-mac-os-x-10-7-lion-installer-from -a-usb-flash-drive/

     

     

     

    Proper CD/DVD protection

     

    keep your cds/dvds in hard jewel cases in a cool enviroment out of the sun and heat, not in film or paper sleeves that are prone to decomposing onto your data or small grains of sand and dirt scratching the bottom platters. Keep the bottom free of your naturally oilly fingers, clean with a tiny bit of rubbing alcohol and a very fine cloth, polish to a shine. Never place the bottom on a hard surface or slide them so they scratch.

  • 4. Re: Backup, restoring, formatting info
    ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)

    Performance

     

    Looking to increase your computers performance?

     

    If your problem and slowdown just recently occurred, then your likely looking at some sort of software issue or networking issue problem. Post it to the forums for a answer.

     

     

    If your computer has just been slowing down for a long time and you want to speed things up then this is the right post for you.

     

    First thing to remember, that all parts of the computer must be fast in unison in order to have a fast computer. Computer hardware itself has certain bus and SATA speeds and you can't exceed that by putting other hardware in that's faster, the machine can't handle it so ti can only use the pipes it's has.

     

     

    Graphics

     

    If your interested in 3D games and video graphic performance, then you need to buy hardware more suited to stronger video card performance to begin with, with it's own processor (called a GPU) and it's own onboard memory.

     

    Intel has been making their CPU's (central processor unit) with built in integrated graphics, meaning the CPU is actually doing double duty as a graphics processor. Apple in their higher end computers also adds a dedicated graphics card and uses graphics switching if the CPU gets overloaded it goes to the dedicated video card. A user with a machine like this can choose to turn off the switching in Energy Saver, thus use the dedicated graphics all the time. Drawback of this is it uses more battery power, however if your on battery only part time and most of the time on power, it could work for you to keep your performance up.

     

    To give you a idea of graphics performance this is the latest line up of the MacBook Pro

     

    13" Integrated graphics only - Cinebench score 11

     

    15" 2.0 Gh - integrated graphics + light dedicated graphics card - Cinebench score 18

     

    15/17" 2.2/2.3 Ghz - integrated graphics + high performance graphics card - score 30

     

    http://www.cbscores.com/index.php?sort=ogl&order=desc

     

     

    So ideally, if your really interested in graphics performance for 3D games in more of a competitive fashion, you need to get a Windows tower where you can switch the graphics card, make tweaks and so forth. It's because there are more people on Windows, means that there are more buyers of newer video cards that come out. So naturally video card advances are going ot come out first on Windows.

     

    Casual gaming on a Mac is no slouch, the 2.2 Ghz MBP 30 point score is very impressive for a laptop, but no laptop is a match for a desktop as it has better cooling, more power and a larger case design to accommodate.

     

     

    Your box specs

     

    Ok, what about your box right? What can you do?

     

    Well first you need to learn all about your machine. I recommend you download the free version of MacTracker and look up the specifics of your hardware.

     

    The compare those hardware specs, of the CPU and GPU (if you have one) against this performance chart site here (note if you see a M it usually means "mobile" like the 6750M)

     

    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

     

     

    Compare your box specs to the currently selling hardware specs Apple has. Apple doesn't always make it easy, you may have to consult Wikipedia and the current Intel processor line up to decipher exactly what hardware has what. You do this comparison to see if it's worth even bothering to upgrade your current hardware or not so you can stay up to date with current software. After all you don't want to install the next operating system and programs only to find out your machine is crawling like a drunk in the gutter.

     

    When you use MacTracker, look at the RAM your machine can hold and use, sometimes it's MORE than what Apple specifies in their manual. This could be a nice performance bonus, especially for 64 bit processor machines.

     

    RAM can be added by the user for most machines without voiding the warranty, as long as you don't break anything and of course follow anti-static guidelines use the right tools and procedures. There are plenty of places to buy RAM, just make sure the specifications match, you watch videos or pictures to see how it's done, and don't buy cheap quality RAM or you'll be sending it back again and again. The wear and tear on your machine will come to haunt you. So increasing the RAM will assist in making the computer faster.

     

     

    Storage speed

     

    Next you need to look at your storage. A lot of laptop drives come with 5,400 RPM drives, some say it's less draining on the battery than 7,200 RPM drives. Guess it's up to you to decide if you can handle a little less battery life in exchange for better performance. SSD drives, although very fast, are very expensive in larger sizes. You need to have a computer with faster SATA 6 to take full advantage of the SSD's speed. If you have a SATA 3, well then it's not going to be as fast as it could be, you might decide the larger capacity 7,200 RPM drive is more economically friendly and closer matches your machines speed and usage.

     

    Most Mac's today only come with about 4GB of RAM and most people don't use all that, so lets say 2GB on average for a slightly older machine, that's not much to be loading into RAM from a SSD, so it's not really realizing the benefit all that much because programs and files are still pretty small.

     

    Now if one was transferring 500GB, a SSD could likely due it in 30 minutes compared to 60 minutes for a 7,200 RPM drive. So how many times does one really do that? And since SSD's need what's called "wear leveling" as they can't handle too many writes in one location, transferring large files back and forth off a SSD will wear it out prematurely. So at this time a SSD makes a better OS and program drive where things don't change too often, more than a storage drive where huge files transfers are common. Perhaps later when the price comes down a lot they can become disposable, but right now they are astronomical per GB compared to standard hard drives. But if your looking for speed, SSD is your choice.

     

    Another note is SSD's cannot be securely erased, it's because allowing something like that would wear it out. So your stuck locking your drive up using performance robbing Filevault, which you do know the industry as a whole has to give access to paranoid governments. A product from cellebrite, does just that for mobile devices with SSD's. So to be able to truly scrub a drive, you need to stick with a hard drive.

     

     

    Clone and reverse clone method

     

    First off, do not do anything unless you have another backup of your data safe off the machines your intending to do major software changes too. Cloning back and forth is just a performance enhancer, it's not a cure for a issue with your software or hardware.

     

    Cloning back and forth is not for SSD's, nor is cloning for Filevaulted or TimeMachine drives.

     

    Following the steps above for your operating system, cloning the OS X partition to a external drive, hold option booting from it, then erasing the internal OS X partition (not the whole drive in most cases) and reverse cloning does wonders to optimize and defragment your boot partition/drive hard drive .

     

    The way hard drives work is they are faster up front where data is written first to the outter tracks, rather than near the bottom inner tracks which are much smaller and thus slower as the heads have to move more often to access data.

     

    So as long as the cloning software is copying files according to the alphabetical order of the files and folders on the root directory of the drive, Applications get written first and Users folder, which is subjective to the most change, is written last so it doesn't disturb the placement of the Applications or System folders as much.

     

    Of course over time, (a lot) this performance can be lost, so a clone and reverse clone can be done again and the same thing occurs.

     

     

     

    Fresh install method

     

    Following the "fresh install method" in my earlier post. For hard drives only and not SSD's.

     

     

    1: Backup persona data

    2: Erase drive

    3: Install OS from grey disks for free iLife, then upgrade to next OS version. Else install OS.

    4: Software Update fully.

    5: Install Programs from fresh sources

    6: Return performance robbing user files last.

     

    7: No TimeMachine restore, no migration or setup assistant.

     

     

    Router performance

     

    Wireless N, try different channels as you may be using one too close to your neighbors or getting more interference from appliances. Keep the leechers off with a strong encryption and password as outlined earlier.

  • 5. Re: Backup, restoring, formatting info
    ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)

    CORRECTION

     

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    Restoring OS X - 10.7 - wipe and install

     

    1: Backup your user files via drag and drop methods of your User folders (Music, Documents, Pictures, Movies etc) regardless to a data drive as outlined above, as the problem you may be having could be more serious, like a hardware or firmware issue. Disconnect all other drives.

     

    2: You have two options depending upon if your Mac had Snow Leopard previously. If it did, then you can go the above Restoring OS X - 10.6 "fresh install method" and then make a clone, then update to Lion via the AppStore with a very strong, reliable, fast Internet connection.

     

    3: Your Mac has (previously was "came with") OS X Lion, then you hold Command r and boot into Lion Recovery Partition, get online, use Disk Utility to Erase (and Zero if needed) the Lion OS X Partition, then quit and simply reinstall Lion from the menu.

     

     

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    original instructions wrongly implied that only factory installed Lion Mac's have a Lion Recovery Partition, when in fact Mac's upgraded to Lion from Snow Leopard also have a Lion Recovery Partition to reinstall Lion.

     

    My bad.

  • 6. Re: Backup, restoring, formatting info
    ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)

    Troubleshooting if a OS X reinstall is necessary

     

     

    When one is considering a OS X reinstall, it usually means they can't find a specific cause for a issue or series of issues or instability and thereby think that just reinstalling everything will resolve the problem which it will most certainly could, but may not be required to expend that much effort. Not only that, it may not work in your case at all if your problem is in your very own files.

     

    So starting from easiest to hardest you should try steps in this order, save yourself a lot of work and perhaps cure a minor issue quickly.

     

     

    1: Disconnect backups, backup files if possible

     

    Disconnect any auto-mated backup, including TimeMachine, auto-updating clones, auto-backup software during this period. If you haven't made a backup of your data (like Music, Documents, Pictures, Movies) now is a good time to do that to a external data / storage drive. Disconnect all drives/devices to prevent accidents or other issues from interfering with your judgement. Return to as close to "out of the box" as reasonably possible, with few wireless devices as possible. Always keep a wired mouse and keyboard handy.

     

    1.5 Update your web browser plugins

     

    Adobe Flash and Microsoft Silverlight epecially. For Lion only, Java is now a external plugin. Search "Apple support" for the Java plugin.


     

    2: Perform a Safe Mode boot

     

    Simply hold down the Shift Key while booting, this will disable kernel extension files that programs install upon booting and only use the ones Apple uses. This is especially effective when you boot a Mac and it results in a Grey Screen or "you must restart" (aka "Kernel Panic")

     

    https://support.apple.com/kb/HT1455

     

    What you do after this is update your third party programs (or uninstall them using their uninstaller to remove their kext file-s from your System/Library/Extensions folder) that have are perhaps causing your issues.

     

    Problems with kext files usually occurs after a OS X Software Update, so if your in a mission critical environment, it's perhaps best to tread slowly and not update all your machines at one time.

     

     

    3: Reset the SMC and PRAM

     

    https://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964

     

    https://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379

     

     

    4: Grey Screen, Black/Blue Screen, Flashing question mark issues etc.

     

    If you do a Google search:  apple support + [issue above] you can easily locate a support document Apple publishes themselves for you to read. Apple updates these support documents and sometimes discontinues some, some are old. Check the revision date to see if it pertains to your system. I could link to them, but because they change it's not as effective as doing the search and determining for yourself.

     

    Ask for help on the forums, be detailed about your issue, the hardware you have, the operating system and the programs you use. We can't see your machine, we only know what you tell us.

     

     

    5: Check with Disk Utility next


    Run the following: In your Applications/Utilities folder Disk Utility > Repair Permissions (ignore the long list, things were changed permanently) also Verify Disk (if this gives a issue, it's a cause for concern, please mention it in the ASC forums for assistance).

     

    If you have a issue after Verifying Disk, you need to (for 10.5 and 10.6 users) hold c and reboot off the 10.5/10.6 OS X installer disk and look for Disk Utilities and Run > Repair Disk (this can only be done while booted off another medium, why it's only "Verify Disk" before).

     

    Once can also run Disk Utiliy > Reapir Permissions from the OS X install disk or Lion Recovery Partition as well if OS X won't boot.

     

    If your on 10.7 Lion as there are no disks, hold command and r keys to boot into the Lion Recovery Partition and perform the same steps with Disk Utility on the OS X Lion Partition. (FYI: a partition is a separate area on the physical drive that appears to the computer to be another one, thus allowing multiple operating systems to be booted from the same drive.)

     

    Hopefully that will resolve your issue, if not or even if it does, bring it to the forums for advice as it could be a sign of further trouble like a failing drive and you will need advice what to do next.

     

     

    6: Check with OnyX

     

    OnyX is a excellent part of the troubleshooting process, it's initial checks need to be performed and any warning in that regard brought to the forums for advice before proceeding any further.

     

    Your next step is sort of a "nuke the site from orbit" approach by deleting all the computers cache files, which can become corrupt and cause instability. Since one really can't tell which one is causing the issue, the entire lot is allowed to be rebuilt in one massive stroke. So run ALL the cleaning and maintenance steps, you can cancel the in between reboots, but you MUST reboot when finished using OnyX or the cache files are not rebuilt. After rebooting your computer is going to act a little slow, but later return to optimum performance and hopefully your issue would have been resolved.

     

    OnyX doesn't hurt your machine or files or programs, just allows the operating system to rebuild the cache files and perform maintenance tasks. It's not specifically a performance technique, although cleaning and resetting the caches with a reboot can increase the computers performance because whatever was causing the slowdown in the caches is now removed. You don't need to perform OnyX as part of any ritual or routine, OS X is pretty good at handling it's own maintenance.

     

    OnyX also has the ability to check for corrupt preference files under the Verify tab. Corrupt .plist files problems exhibits themselves as programs failing to remember your settings or refusing to launch or hanging. Run the check to show only the corrupt ones and ask on the forums how to proceed to remove those .plist files usually in your Users/Library/Preferences folder (now hidden in Lion) but some are also located in System as well. So it's best to ask or you can use the free Easy Find to locate and delete the file, reboot and relaunch the program, the .plist file gets rebuilt. Again, be careful here as you can remove a essential system file if your not careful.

     

    OnyX can be downloaded free from MacUpdate.com or visiting the Titanium Free developers site, be sure to use the version matched to your operating system version.

     

    (Note: AppleJack is a another troubleshooting program, except it runs in Single User mode, aka a command line, has to be preinstalled ahead of time before problems occur. Benefit here is by holding Command S, you get to run it BEFORE the operating system loads. Works excellently for 10.5/10.6, but it hasn't been updated yet for Lion 10.7, although reports say everything works except the repair permissions portions. It can be found on MacUpdate.com and on Sourceforge.)

     

     

    7: Create a new user account

     

    2: Create a new user in the System Preferences > Accounts and log into it and use it for awhile, does your problem continue? If not, it means that your issue is localized to the other user account, if you can't find the problem/cure specifically, then consider copying the contents of (Music, Documents, Pictures, Movies, not Library) from the problem user account to the new user account via the ~/Users/Shared folder.

     

    When your personal files are in the new user and you are using them there, does your problems return? If so, it's likely something wrong with your files themselves, which you will have to narrow down to the specific one.

     

    8: Application reinstall

     

    3: If your problem continues even in the other user and isn't a user file issue, then that usually means it's a something more global, works across multiple user account's. This could mean a bad program in the Applications folder, or one that starts it's self automatically (look in your log in items in System Preferences > Accounts)

     

    Your next step would be to reinstall all your third party programs, the overwrite may clear the issue up. If you have purchased iLife separately (verses the free version that comes with a new Mac) , reinstall it from disk or redownload it from the AppStore by holding option key and clicking on Purchases. Overwriting the program doesn't overwrite your files, but may overwrite the settings you made in those programs. Also be sure to test the programs in both users.

     

    Note: Some bundled Apple programs can be reinstalled by simply running the installer on the OS X disks that came with the computer. However some like PhotoBooth can only be resinstalled along with the entire OS, unless your willing to extract them manually using the program called Pacifist from CharlesSoft. You likely can avoid having to do that by following the next step.

     

     

    9: Data recovery drive

     

    If your at this stage, and before you stick that disk into the computer or hold command r to boot into Lion Recovery Partition, you likely need to consider making a "OS X Data Recovery Drive".

     

    This is for those of you haven't managed to get a copy of your files off the computer yet. It can get very hairy after this point if you don't have a backup of your data. Basically your going to use a new external drive to format and install OS X onto, allowing you to hold option and boot off of it to attempt to get a copy of your files off first before doing anything.

     

    So review the steps earlier and the pictures provided to do that first. Having your data safe is of the utmost importance, TimeMachine isn't always best course, have your files easily accessible on a normal storage drive so you can hook it up to any computer (Mac, Windows or Linux).

     

    If you can't create or make a data recovery drive, don't have a backup of any kind, or not confident in proceeding PLEASE seek the assistance of qualified data recovery professionals as everything can be replaced except your data. A few hundred dollars (or even a few thousand for platter level dissection) is nothing compared to losing several thousand man hours of files, or songs or pictures you took on vacation.

     

     

    10: OS X overwrite

     

    What this does is overwrites the present OS X install with the version that is on the install disks or gotten via the Lion Recovery Partition. Again, make sure you have a copy of your data (Music, Doc's, Pictures and Movies) off the computer before proceeding or make a OS X Data Recovery Drive to assist you if OS X won't boot or run correctly to do it normally.

     

    Key is to match the OS X version. 10.5 disks with installed 10.5, 10.6 disks with 10.6 installed, 10.7 Lion Recovery with 10.7 installed.  After using the disks, you need to immediately Software Update to get to the current version, unless the issue you are having occurred after a Software Update, then perhaps it's best to get online and ask questions before applying the updates.

     

    OS X overwrites the installed version with the one you have, it doesn't touch your files or third party programs, and may or may not (depending upon what's on the disk) also overwrite your free iLife bundled on the disks.

     

    Note that your going to perhaps get a older version of iLife than the one installed as it could have been updated via Software Update, so unless a Software update is causing your initial issue, you need to run Software Update immediately afterwards to update iLife (and other Apple bundled programs) to the current version.

     

    The methods for OS X overwrite are mentioned in the above:

     

            Restoring OS X 10.5 10.6. 10.7 - simple overwrite OS method

     

     

     

    11: OS X "fresh install"

     

    The most drastic of all steps, this method first mandates that you have a copy of your files off the boot drive first (to a storage drive, not TimeMachine!), because everything is going bye bye. And the reason you don't want to depend upon TimeMachine is because whatever screwed up your machine has likely also screwed up TimeMachine, not mention the restore problems that occur (especially if your reverting to a earlier OS X version)

     

    TimeMachine is a rotating image backup of your boot drive, it can become totally corrupt eventually from a prolonged issue or even malware as it deletes the old as it makes more recent copies of the new. Apple is always thinking forward and not considering your needs to perhaps revert to a earlier OS X version so restoring TM files to a earleir OS X version likely won't work all that well or won't be allowed. So TM isn't always the best solution for a fresh install. If you can TM restore and it works, by then all means do so, as it's a lot less work than a "fresh install". Use the easy method if you can, but keep your options open in case the hard method is the only way to get what you need done.

     

    The object with a "fresh install" is your only going to save your user files (Music, Documents, Pictures, Movies) and the rest, including the operating system, programs etc. will be erased, the boot drive reformatted, the OS installed and updated, third party programs installed from fresh sources and finally (in case of malware a anti-virus scan on the backup files) returning the files back to the computer.

     

    Instructions for 10.5/10.6 and 10.7 can be found above labeled

     

        Restoring OS X - 10.6  "fresh install method"

     

        Restoring OS X - 10.7 - wipe and install

     


    The Restoring OS X 10.7 (new drive, total reformat method) is for the rare cases of a drive replacement, corrupt GPT or a major partition reformatting of the drive where all partitions, including the hidden Lion Recovery Partition, has to be rebuilt/replaced.

  • 7. Re: Backup, restoring, formatting info
    ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)

    Ha, forgot to advise peforming a

     

    3.5 HardWare Test

     

    https://support.apple.com/kb/ht1509

     

     

  • 8. Re: Backup, restoring, formatting info
    Cthoong Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Good to know there's a hardware test feature !!! Thanks a lot !

     

    Btw, there's a way to backup and restore the OS X without any DVD (mostly serve for testing and development needs).

     

    ** always backup before restore as all file will gone after restored. **

     

    1. You can partition your Harddisk into 3 (or more partition).

    2. First and second can use to install different (or same) Mac OS X, say 10.6 and 10.7. Third partition can be using for backup files.

    3. Use Carbon Copy Cloner to create a full backup of first and second Mac OS X partition and store the backup file at third partition.

    4. You can use Disk Utilities tool for the OS restoration. Whenever you want to restore first partition, just boot into second partition and restore the first partition... vice versa.

    5. You can even restore 2 same OS X into both partition !!!

     

    In this way, you wouldn't need any DVD or external harddisk, some more can save space from creating recovery partition.

  • 9. Re: Backup, restoring, formatting info
    noondaywitch Level 6 Level 6 (8,130 points)

    And when your HD fails, you've lost the lot.

     

    That's not a backup plan - it's a disaster waiting to happen.

  • 10. Re: Backup, restoring, formatting info
    Cthoong Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    It's same case if only create backup image at recovery partition or external harddisk. If the only internal or external harddisk gone, you lost everything.

     

    If you created image, you can always backup the image file to any external harddisk by copy and paste, it's easy as you transfer/backup any file. So you would have 2 copy of backup image file. it's up to you anyway. Cheers!

  • 11. Re: Backup, restoring, formatting info
    ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)

    Exactly, first rule of backups

     

    Maintain two separate hardware backups of your data at all times.

     

     

    Now I've got a pretty large 750GB internal drive, which I've learned to keep well under 50% filled for maximum performance, so that other 50% is essentially going to waste, when I could use it for a alternate boot.

     

    I could set up another partition and auto-clone software to clone Partition A to Partition B, just for mobile emergencies where I can't drag my external clone around.

     

    However I only get software protection, not hardware protection, if the hard drive dies, I lose both partitions with all my valuable data, so for this case I would have to have 2 1/2 backups, two external drive clones and a cloned partition.

     

    The cloned partition doesn't count as a complete backup as it's only offers half the protection.

     

    Lot of people fall into that trap because drives are huge and their data is small, so they partition a external drive and put TimeMachine on one and a clone on another, only to lose both to malware, a corrupted partition map, dropping it, power spike, drive failure or some other calamity.

     

    Drives are cheap, data is expensive and sometimes irreplaceable.

  • 12. Re: Backup, restoring, formatting info
    ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)

    About Hard drives "Bad Sectors" and Disk Utilities "Zero Erase" feature

     

    Well I went ahead and tried to partition my boot hard drive 50/50 and three attempts all resulted in the same issue, the progress bar stopped, Activity Monitor reported a sudden stop in drive activity and my computer completely froze solid requiring holding the power button down and doing a "hard reset".

     

    Good thing I had AppleJack installed (not updated for 10.7 at the time of this posting), I simply held Command S, booted into Single User mode and typed "applejack AUTO" at the prompt. It fixed the whole mess and repaired my partition (I took a look in Disk Utility and it was reporting double the space taken for the main HD instead of below 50% like I had it)

     

    Now supposedly when the computer comes across a bad sector on the drive and can't write to it, it's supposed to map it off, all done automatically behind the scenes, apparently not during formatting it seems in my case. So after wasting 6 hours trying to format another partition on the drive, I choose to use Disk Utility > Erase Free Space option > Zero and let it rip for 3 hours. Once that was completed I had no trouble creating the second partition, another 3 hours later I had a clone of my first 50% on the second 50%.

     

    What the "Zero Erase" does is essentially write 0's to every available bit on the drive, if the driver can't successfully write 0's to all bits in a sector, it's mapped off not to be used again. This "Zero" is considered a security option to erase all traces of 1's and 0's combinations that represent your data on the drive, but also doubles as a bit sector check.

     

    Disk Utility has two options with a Zero Erase, one that does the whole drive with a format, and another that does just the free space. Free space meaning space anywhere on the drive not currently occupied by files not targeted for overwriting with new data.

     

    When one trashes a file normally, it's not erased off the drive, just it's space is made available for overwrite for the next file. Secure Empty Trash will overwrite the file immediately, but takes considerably longer on large files and may not be necessary if they don't contain anything private, so why bog down the computer for nothing?

     

    If you are going to incur major changes to large sections of the drive, like partitioning or deal with very large files (like video clips) which can run across many sectors, it's perhaps best to incorporate Zeroing either free space or the entire new drive during formatting before you do so the first time, despite it's considerable length of time it takes.

     

    My drive was zeroed before, so this bad sector appeared later on. Why I tried three times to format it, thinking it was some other issue responsible.

     

    So if you come across something like this, save yourself some time and simply erase free space.

  • 13. Re: Backup, restoring, formatting info
    M3ZR Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    im currently going through this process now but i am without my original discs and when i boot up with the options or c held down i only show one HDD please help

  • 14. Re: Backup, restoring, formatting info
    noondaywitch Level 6 Level 6 (8,130 points)

    You need the discs. Or at least a retail disc for a compatible OS X version (one later than that your Mac shipped with, but which your Mac has the specs to handle).

    You boot to the installer disc by holding the C key on start up until the apple logo appears.

     

    An alternative may be to hook up to a second Mac by firewire and use Target Disc Mode to run DU from the second Mac.

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