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Is iCloud totally worthless?

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korkyk Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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Oct 13, 2011 10:41 PM

So...

 

After 2+ hours of upgrading my iMac, iPad2 and iPhone 4, I find pretty much that iCloud doesn't really work and is totally worthless.

 

Please correct me if my observations are incorrect:

 

1) One cannot take text files or MS Office files, and drop them to iCloud. One cannot save them at all if you have a Mac, because Pages in iWork has zero iCloud capability.  Which make iCloud totally worthless for native Apple apps.

 

2) One cannot save PAGES files on an iMac and share them in the iCloud. For the same reason as above

 

3) One cannot save spreadsheets from Open Office or MS Excel, or even NUMBERS from the iMAC (see 1 and 2 above)

 

4) There is no support for just dragging and dropping any kind of file to iCloud.

 

 

Someone please explain, then, how iCloud is even a willing comparison to Dropbox.

  • Marsblaster Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 13, 2011 10:46 PM (in response to korkyk)

    Yes, Can someone please help us try to figure out to drop or upload apps/doctuments to Icloud?

     

     

    i cannot also figrue out how to access my doctuments on icloud either.

  • Wilfred Hildonen Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
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    Oct 14, 2011 3:57 AM (in response to Marsblaster)

    Well, I am afraid that the only "solution" is to drag and drop documents created in iWorks, to your account on icloud.com. Then it will "effortlessly" sync to your iPad or/and your iPhone. If you continue to work on your iPad, for instance, it will of course sync with the documents on icloud.com - but if you want to go on working on your Macbook, say, or your iMac, then the "effortless" syncing requires you to manually download the document to your Download folder and open it in Pages etc. on your Mac.

     

    There are other threads here in which people have discovered the same thing; that this thing about effortless and beautiful syncing and to take your documents with you wherever you go, requires an iOS-device and leave Macs our in the cold.

     

    I suggest that as many as possible send feedback to Apple about this to let them know that we had expected something more than this. If we would only have iOS-devices, fine, but we don't. We have Macs, too. Close to 60 millions of us, I hear.

     

    Here is the link to the feedback-pages: http://www.apple.com/feedback/

  • Julian Wright Level 7 Level 7 (34,835 points)
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    Oct 14, 2011 4:03 AM (in response to korkyk)
    4) There is no support for just dragging and dropping any kind of file to iCloud.

     

    There's not supposed to be. That was never an advertised feature of iCloud.

     

    Someone please explain, then, how iCloud is even a willing comparison to Dropbox.

     

    iCloud has never compared itself to Dropbox. They are different services for different purposes. You could equally question why Dropbox doesn't automatically sync contacts, calendar, apps, iTunes etc between all your devices.

  • shineysky Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Oct 14, 2011 4:59 AM (in response to korkyk)

    iCloud is extremely useful for me in doing what it is advertised to do: keeping my Apple devices in sync, and giving me access to my calendar, contacts and email away from home, for example. Hopefully Office for Mac will use iCloud features, meanwhile i'vegot Dropbox if I need it.

  • Voix Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
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    Oct 14, 2011 5:50 AM (in response to korkyk)

    So far I've been able to remove Xmarks because bookmark syncing seems to be working well with iCloud.  My contacts are also syncing well (something that I never got working quite right with GMail).  Mail is a mixed bag; I really wish iCloud supported multiple accounts.  I'll be sticking with GMail, but really had hopes I could replace it with  iCloud.  Find my iPhone works for my iPhone and my iPad, but I can't get Find my Mac to work for my Mac Pro or my MacBook Pro, although I don't know how it could work on those devices because they don't have GPS.

     

    It's a mixed bag.  My expectations for Mail have not been met, but additional features will likely be added in the future.

  • Wilfred Hildonen Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
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    Oct 14, 2011 6:07 AM (in response to korkyk)

    (Funny. I don't see the latest replies here although they appear in my inbox in Mail)

    Update: I saw them after I posted, though. Strange.

     

    Anyhow, as a response to the original question; no, iCloud is not totally worthless. This thing about Pages or iwork and Macs, is actually the only thing I have had to complain about. That was a very important issue for me, but the rest seems to work very well. I have had dot Mac and MobileMe for years, so the syncing isn't new to me and one had more control with the old Backup, to choose what to back up and what not and to where and what, but I am quite happy with it so far - except for this thing about iWorks and Macs...

     

    Message was edited by: Wilfred Hildonen

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  • JKN1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 14, 2011 6:06 AM (in response to Julian Wright)

    But Dropbox can be made to sync important things quite easily.

     

    I too am puzzled why iDisk had to be completely killed off, at least it was a way for me to sync, store and view actually useful files and not iStuff which really, very few people use in any serious manner.

     

    I know speculation isn't allowed here but I am sure Apple has bigger plans for iCloud documents,I just wish they would hint at what they might be.

  • woodmeister50 Level 4 Level 4 (3,690 points)
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    Oct 14, 2011 8:59 AM (in response to korkyk)

    BTW, if you do work on documents on your Mac with

    iCloud compatiple apps, don't ever sign off.  If you do

    it will prompt you with a notice that all your docs will

    be deleted form your Mac!  So, you have to copy them

    somewhere where the evil iCloud can't find them, if you

    want local copies.

  • KeanuReeves Level 3 Level 3 (535 points)
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    Oct 14, 2011 9:03 AM (in response to korkyk)

    If you add any "documents or data"  to iCloud, then if you uncheck "Documents & Data" from the iCloud settings, it deletes the files from your device.

     

    That doesn't seem right to me. Just because I don't want to store a document on iCloud, why should it delete it from my Mac?

     

    You can still get around it by downloading all the files to your computer first, but it seems like they are trying to "Lock" me in, to using iCloud.

  • Satchmo Level 4 Level 4 (1,245 points)
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    Oct 14, 2011 9:09 AM (in response to Julian Wright)

    Julian, what would you estimate the value of iCloud to be for a Mac user who has no iOS devices?

  • Satchmo Level 4 Level 4 (1,245 points)
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    Oct 14, 2011 9:10 AM (in response to Wilfred Hildonen)

    Wilfred, I'm having the same problem seeing subsequent thread replies. As you experience, they come to my email.

  • woodmeister50 Level 4 Level 4 (3,690 points)
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    Oct 14, 2011 9:40 AM (in response to korkyk)

    Satchmo, it appears to me that iCloud is for those folks who

    live a iPhone/iPad/iPod centric life.  Unless I am missing a whole lot

    (I am getting up there in age and suffer from CRS every now and

    then) it seems those that have a Mac centric existence really

    have no value in iCloud.  I thought this was going to be the silver

    bullet for coordinating things between my iMac and my Macbook Pro,

    such does not appear to be the case, at least in its current incarnation.

  • Satchmo Level 4 Level 4 (1,245 points)
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    Oct 14, 2011 9:57 AM (in response to korkyk)

    Woody, I expected much the same thing. I thought I'd be able to sync my keychain, contacts, mail, etc. between Macs. I can't reply directly to your post because I can't see it here, only in my email.

     

    I called Apple about iCloud on a Mac today, and the upper level tech was just as skeptical as we are. He did assure me that I wouldn't lose my files after logging out of iCloud, even with those ominous warnings, so I logged out and will be happy never to hear of it again. The upside of the experience is that I learned of competitors to Dropbox, like box.com and Backify.

     

    It also took longer to get through to tech support than it has for years. I'm sure there is no connection between Steve's departure and this lapse.

     

    I think it is more than clear now that Macs are the ugly stepsisters of Apple's product line, and I'm not happy about it.

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