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ksoor Calculating status...
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Oct 14, 2011 6:16 PM

Hi all,

 

Today I upgraded my iPad to the new iOS5, and was asked  to create an iCloud account, which I did,   But Snow Leopard does not accept the iCloud id and passworld or the (new) mobileMe email address and password. what's up.???

 

K

 

 

Some background info:

 

I needed to change my Apple ID from MYNAME to MYNAME@gmail.com (I used the Apple ID web site to do that)  so far  everything was fine.    But then my MobileMe account didn't not work on the iPad (Mail)  So I tried to use my old username, but got a message that it was taken!! what gives????   Ok I can live with a new email address since I'm the only one who used it in the past. So I go on to create a new mobileMe email account, but now Snow Lepord dosen't accept my MobileMe nor the iCloud id  !!!!!! 

 

I'm not sure when I'll upgrade to Lion, Help!!! How do I sync my stuff? Calendar etc. I used to the MoblieMe sysn for that. 

Mac Pro, MacbookPro, Ipad, Mac OS X (10.6.4), Mac Pro, MacbookPro, Ipad
  • Phil_6379 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 14, 2011 7:08 PM (in response to ksoor)

    For now, you need Lion to use the full functionalities of iCloud. Apple hasn't revealed any plan to bring iCloud to Snow Leopard yet, but there are rumors.

     

    You can, however, use your iCloud email address with any IMAP client : http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4864.(I haven't tested it since I don't run Lion, but I think this would include Mail 4.5 from Snow Leopard. )

     

    But Snow Leopard does not accept the iCloud id and passworld or the (new) mobileMe email address and password. what's up.???

    Just to be sure : by iCloud ID, you mean the one you created from your iPad just after upgrading, and by new mobileMe address, you mean the @me.com email address you created afterwards, right ? Or do you mean you had a paying mobileme subscribtion before ?

    And you're entering these infos in the MobileMe preference pane in System Preferences ?

     

    So I go on to create a new mobileMe email account, but now Snow Lepord dosen't accept my MobileMe nor the iCloud id  !!!!!! 

    If you enter your iCloud ID in the MobileMe preference pane in Snow Leopard, it won't work ; as I said, it is not supported. If you enter your new @me.com email address, it won't work either, since it's a iCloud email address.

     

    I'm not sure when I'll upgrade to Lion, Help!!! How do I sync my stuff? Calendar etc. I used to the MoblieMe sysn for that. 

    You are a Gmail user, so you can sync your mail, contacts and calendars natively and wirelessly between your Mac and iPad : http://www.google.com/sync/mac.html for the Mac and http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138740&topic=14252 for your iPad.

    If you want the other features of iCloud (Photo Stream, Find my friends, backups to the cloud for your iPad, Back to my Mac) you'll have to upgrade to Lion or wait till Apple updates Snow Leopard with iCloud integration, if they do.

  • Martin Gallo Calculating status...
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    Oct 14, 2011 7:23 PM (in response to ksoor)

    As near as I can tell, you have to downgrade back to iOS 4 (I think 4.3.5 was the last v4) OR upgrade to Lion if you want to synch.

     

    Personally, I HATE this choice. I still have some PPC games that I play and a couple of pieces of non-game software that I rely on. Thanks, Apple. Thanks a lot.

  • Sjazbec Level 4 Level 4 (1,665 points)
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    Oct 15, 2011 2:53 AM (in response to Martin Gallo)

    Martin Gallo wrote:

     

    As near as I can tell, you have to downgrade back to iOS 4 (I think 4.3.5 was the last v4) OR upgrade to Lion if you want to synch.

     

    Personally, I HATE this choice. I still have some PPC games that I play and a couple of pieces of non-game software that I rely on. Thanks, Apple. Thanks a lot.

    Why would you NEED to "downgrade" iOS ?? 

     

    You can still disable icloud on iOS5 and still use the good old iTunes sync to have your Snow content transfered to the iOS device. iTunes v10.5 runs in Snow, you can even profit from Wifi sync - that is not dependant on using the iCloud service at all.

     

    You can also use your iOS device as a single unit and profit from the cloud service. It does not "need" a Mac on the other side to work.. In fact Apple promotes the "PC-free" idea, so people get used to operating only their iOS devices as independant "machines". In fact iPhones/iPods and iPads profit more from iCloud then even Lion. For example the iWork09 suite in OSX 10.7.2 has no iCloud upload features while the iOS iwork apps have and do sync - but only across other mobile devices, never to a Mac over the cloud. Clearly a sign on the wall where the train is heading in the coming years.

  • floridalarry Calculating status...
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    Oct 15, 2011 5:10 AM (in response to ksoor)

    I have Lion on my MacBook Pro and the move from MobileMe to iCloud was flawless.  Now the problem . . . On my MobileMe Account, I had my wife as a Family Member.  She uses an iMac with Snow Leopard (10.6.8).  I can't upgrade to Lion on that machine.  We moved her MobileMe id's to iCloud and she can receive and send mail from iCloud.  However her Mail (4.5) will not work and I cannot add an iCloud account in Preferences.  I have heard that an upgrade my be available for 10.6.8, but cannot confirm.  It's a shame that Apple did not realize the problem, but maybe they just want us to buy a new generation Mac . . . which I cannot afford.  I may just stop using Mail and Address Book and go back to Outlook :-(

  • floridalarry Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 15, 2011 5:14 AM (in response to Phil_6379)

    I cannot add a new account in Mail.  The pup-up only allows a MobileMe Account . . . and I don't have one anymore. 

  • Sjazbec Level 4 Level 4 (1,665 points)
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    Oct 15, 2011 8:54 AM (in response to floridalarry)

    floridalarry wrote:

     

    I have Lion on my MacBook Pro and the move from MobileMe to iCloud was flawless.  Now the problem . . . On my MobileMe Account, I had my wife as a Family Member.  She uses an iMac with Snow Leopard (10.6.8).  I can't upgrade to Lion on that machine.  We moved her MobileMe id's to iCloud and she can receive and send mail from iCloud.  However her Mail (4.5) will not work and I cannot add an iCloud account in Preferences.  I have heard that an upgrade my be available for 10.6.8, but cannot confirm.  It's a shame that Apple did not realize the problem, but maybe they just want us to buy a new generation Mac . . . which I cannot afford.  I may just stop using Mail and Address Book and go back to Outlook :-(

    Unfortunately Outlook for Mac ( 2008 and 2011 versions )  can't sync Calendar data from iCloud. Only Mail via manual IMAP servers filled in . Microsoft needs to re-build the Caldav features in Outlook or Apple has to provide a fix. Momentary Outlook and iCloud are no good companions. ( on windows yes, on Mac not ).

  • Martin Gallo Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)
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    Oct 15, 2011 9:50 AM (in response to Sjazbec)

    I would NEED to upgrade to Lion or downgrade to iOS 4 so I could easily keep my iPhone and desktop synched live and in real time, rather than be chained to some sort of synching routine like we did in the mid 90's.

     

    MobileMe worked well enough for this purpose and that capability did not NEED to be abandoned. Cloud computing has been around for a while now, why are we in need of the 'cult of the new' all of a sudden?

  • floridalarry Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 15, 2011 1:02 PM (in response to Sjazbec)

    It appears that my wife will lose the ability to use Mail, iCal and Address Book.  I guess I will also lose the ability to have her email on my iPhone 4.  She really doesn't care about iCloud, but now will be forced to change her email address.  What a bunch of crap.

  • RobLeather Calculating status...
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    Oct 17, 2011 8:42 PM (in response to floridalarry)

    I'm in the same boat. 1/2 my family "could" upgrade, but why should I?

     

    I love how iCloud is being touted as "free" when clearly you need to fork out for Lion to run it! Not the mention the requirement for new hardware if you want to go down that route.

     

    I'm actually thinking of jacking MobileMe / iCloud in for good and going down another route using other providers for email / address book and DropBox for iDisk.

     

    Makes you want to get an Android phone and throw in the towel!

  • Martin Gallo Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)
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    Oct 18, 2011 6:57 AM (in response to RobLeather)

    I am not quite ready to go Android, or to abandon Macintosh. I am not happy with Lion, though, and Apple is starting to disappoint me. Apple used to flaunt its backwards compatabiility with older hardware/software but it appears that those days are over. I was going to buy a new iPhone when I qualify for an upgrade but I fear the cost of possibly having to buy new computers to support it! Yes, that is hyperbole, but what happens if the current trend of obsolescence continues? Will my house have to be replaced?

     

    Microsoft got away with it because the hardware was cheap, but I cannot afford to keep up with Apple hardware costs.

  • mlgrig Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 18, 2011 12:46 PM (in response to ksoor)

    I am in the same situation as many of you.  I've been using mobile me with a core duo imac for years.  Synchronizing with an iphone 4 and a newer macbook pro  worked well for me so added a macbook air as well, anticipating all would work together well with icloud.  My itunes and iphoto library are located on my imac which can't be upgraded to lion. As a resutl,  I'm not in market for any new mac products until I determine if I this situation is going to require a new desktop. 

     

    Who do we write to to complain about the lack of backwords compatibility?

  • sarcaster330 Calculating status...
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    Feb 10, 2012 3:11 AM (in response to ksoor)

    You can use iCloud mail on a 10.6.8 by following thse simple steps:

    Concerning your iCloud email… we would be adding the account from mail preferences. You would need to remove your previous account after making sure anything important is backed up. Once this is done, ensure that you have made your iCloud email address from your iOS device. In other words, if you have a "gmail" account name that you use for your iCloud account you would need to create a brand new @me.com email name so that you can use the mail service. To set up a new @me.com email address from your iOS 5:

    Tap Settings > iCloud, turn Mail on, and then follow the onscreen instructions.
    Now that this is completed and you have your new @me.com name follow these steps:

    1) In the Add Account pane, remove any previous MobileMe account that were there and select the "+" sign to enter the full iCloud (@me.com) email address and password

    2) Do not click 'Create' or it will try to automatically set up the account. Hold down Option and the 'Create' button will switch to 'Continue'. Click Continue

    3) For Account Type, change the drop-down menu to IMAP

    4) Change the Incoming Mail server to imap.mail.me.com

    5) Enter the full email address for the User Name

    6) Hold down Option again and the 'Create' button will switch to 'Continue'. Click Continue

    7) Check the box to use SSL and make sure Authentication is set to "Password"

    8) Hold down Option again and the 'Create' button will switch to 'Continue'. Click Continue

    9) Change the Outgoing Mail server to smtp.mail.me.com

    10) Make sure the 'Use Authentication' box is checked

    11) Enter the full email address for User Name and then enter the password

    12) Hold down Option again and the 'Create' button will switch to 'Continue'. Click Continue

    13) Check the box to use SSL and make sure Authentication is set to Password

    14) Click Create, and then Click Create again on the final pane.
  • sarcaster330 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 10, 2012 3:16 AM (in response to ksoor)
    ICLOUD CALENDAR ON 10.6.8
    The information that I am about to give you is based off of my own personal experience through trial and error only and is not the recommendation of Apple Inc. iCloud actually does work with Snow Leopard (Mac 10.6.8), at least partially. Although you can not sign into iCloud system preferences on your 10.6.8 computer you can get syncing to work between the iCal application and iCloud directly, there is a work around for this.

    Please go into your MobileMe system preferences and make sure that you are signed out of your MobileMe account. Please go into iCal preferences, click the "+" button, select CalDav, enter your iCloud username and password...then, you will need to add the following server address:

    p06-caldav.icloud.com

    In the "Refresh Calendars", section select "Push" or "Every Minute" (for transitioned MobileMe accounts).

    You can also share your event with iCloud customers as well, you will/may get an error: The server responded with an error. The server responded: “HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden” to operation CalDAVWriteEntityQueueableOperation. You would then choose "Revert to Server".
  • Stephen Roesler Calculating status...
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    Mar 24, 2012 9:12 PM (in response to sarcaster330)

    Thanks for the straightforward and accurate info on switching both mail and iCal from MobileMe to iCloud. They were working fine on all devices and my desktop (Lion) but not on the macbook with Snow Leopard. Both worked perfectly on the first try.

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