Currently Being ModeratedAug 23, 2011 11:57 PM (in response to Bluspacecow)
My understanding is that it is NOT a simple matter to make Unsanity's software compatible with Lion, and they are not willing to invest the time and effort to try to do so. I tend to give credence to the message I earlier referenced, the part that said, "due to Apple changes in Lion, Unsanity would not be able to update their haxies." If it were easy, why wouldn't they have already done so, or at least stated their intent?
It would be nice to see a statement from Unsanity on Lion though.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 24, 2011 12:38 AM (in response to billearl)
Your understanding would be incorrect sir.
It actually is a simple matter - for someone who has access to the source code. I've made a detailed analysis of how APE and the unsanity haxies.
All they need to do is remove the Rosetta requirement , strip the PPC code out of the haxies and insert a new variable into their SDK.
I am personally not taking much stock in that message as it didn't come from Unsanity - that was a comment left on their blog not an announcement from there. I am a registered user as well and have yet to see this mysterious email apparently sent.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 24, 2011 3:15 AM (in response to Bluspacecow)
Could some kind person (perhaps your good self) bring the haxies back to life. I need only WindowshadeX! Or write a simple routine that rolled up windows. I would pay for that.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 24, 2011 7:58 AM (in response to SteveKir)
As the guy who started this discussion, I appreciate the input from all. It seems clear that many of us would like to see some changes—along the lines of the haxies formerly available from Unsanity—in the way the Finder operates, but none of us has the expertise to implement such alternatives. One hopes that someone with that capacity discovers our dialogues (CDN spelling) and helps us out.
As for Lion vs SnowLep, I am fortunate to be able to run both on different machines (and Tiger on a third iMac G5); I see benefits to each OS and understand that we're never going to have one OS that wraps together all our favorite features, especially those made possible by parties other than Apple. Nevertheless, I hope that we all learn to get along in a world that, for most of us, is pretty amazing.
"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world." ~ Jack Layton (1950–2011)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 26, 2011 3:01 PM (in response to Keith Richardson)
I have sent to Apple a request that they include the equivalent of WindowshadeX in Lion:
Anyone who values this feature should consider doing likewise. The more people who do, the more likely that Apple will do it.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 26, 2011 6:35 PM (in response to SteveKir)
I did the same. Urge others to do so too. Problem is there's no one clear topic to send the request under. As a result the interest gets diluted/scattered.
Perhaps someone can suggest a common topic to place the requests into?
I fear this falls on deaf ears at Apple as it does at Unsanity. I suspect some form of collusion between the two, for whatever reason. It couldn't be that difficult to do include given Apple's approach to user interface, and the fact that it was part of System 9 over ten years ago.
Bewildered, and at least for the moment will not install Lion as a result.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 26, 2011 7:06 PM (in response to Working Stiff)
I completely agree about the collusion, Apple has always wanted 'complete control' over everything it does. There has never been another company other than Unsanity to come up with a Windowshade. I also noted several apps have the ability for transparancy under Lion, but you can't do anything with the main window. Wierd. Apple can be a real pain in the ***. They never seem to care what the the consumer is looking for.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 27, 2011 12:11 PM (in response to mortfe)
I use customized XMenu (Devon) as a substitute for FruitMenu. Without FruitMenu, Xounds and Window Shades, Lion is of no use to me. Lion is on one partition and SL on another. Looks as if I will use SL for an indefinite period. I have sent requests to bring back these apps directly to Apple for about 7 years. I guess there are too few interested users, so the requests are ignored.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 27, 2011 12:22 PM (in response to Gerald Gilardi)
XMenu is excellent, as is Butler (ManyTricks) which I use. I do miss FruitMenu's contextual menu feature, and WindowShade, but will continue using Lion without them. I hope someone can take advantage of this opportunity to replace these, and be a hero.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 31, 2011 3:25 AM (in response to billearl)
Here is something a bit more conclusive direct from Slava at Unsanity today, when I asked if there was any chance of Unsanity haxies being updated for Lion.
"Yes, unfortunately Lion features a somewhat changed system architecture so Application Enhancer has to be massively rewritten. =( …so I can't give definite ETAs on when and how. Sorry for that!"
So, not necessarily impossible, but not likely...
Currently Being ModeratedAug 31, 2011 3:50 AM (in response to billearl)
Source. For those who are interested.
It's interesting tho. I sent this guy 2 tweets that he ignored but butter up to his ego and he responds !
http://unrealmojo.com/ is the project he is currently involved in.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 31, 2011 6:39 AM (in response to Bluspacecow)
So, there is hope yet. However, having been now forced to use the "send to Dock" native Mac feature (I having set a double click on the title bar of a page to do that), I have got used to it and no longer miss WindowshadeX much. If it doesn't come back, so what.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 9, 2011 9:32 PM (in response to Keith Richardson)
Unsanity's last blog entry was February 16, 2010 = 17 months ago!
I think they are dead.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 15, 2011 11:44 AM (in response to Keith Richardson)
I miss Windowshade greatly, but have been told it's no longer doing business. Makes sense, given the date of their last updates on anything. If that's the case, let's all write to Apple and ask them to include it in the next Lion update.
In the meantime, Lion contains fabulous features that make it extremely worthwhile, not least of which is the ability to have multiple desktops that are easy to set up and function differently but as a substitute for Windowshade.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 15, 2011 12:28 PM (in response to yorkmin)
Nothing Apple has compares to Windowshade. I will not go Lion until absolutely forced to. From what I've read it I'm not missing much, at least in my personal workspace. Love Apple, but their sadly missing the point here.
Having multiple desktops is time consuming and clumsy; and does nothing to mitigate the problem of several open "being used" windows.
It's not unusual for me to have several windows in play at once: ftp, an html editor, several html pages, photoshop, et.al. on the desktop at the same time - without WS that would be 8 or more "icons" in the doc, none of them easily identifiable, and time consuming to view/open/ etc.
WS makes it much faster to have a small window bar with visible title in a given position on my monitor, where I left it a few minutes ago.
Nothing comes close to Windowshade. It's so obvious and useful I don't understand why Apple abandoned it.
Maybe Steve didn't like it.