Currently Being ModeratedOct 15, 2011 5:03 AM (in response to Sjazbec)
it syncs to pages ios on its own, notice the same generic icon.
Now I open it, and pages tells me of some missing fonts, and that these will be subsituted with similar ones, but it opens the document from the mac's pages :
I close the document on the ipod, notice that it instantly syncs itself back and have a look at its icon now in both ipod and on icloud.com :
a second later on www.icloud.com :
So that is only a basic proof how one can workaround the missing sync.
I know it is not perfect, but maybe this helps a bit.. Maybe some developers can pick in to make a script ?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 15, 2011 9:00 AM (in response to Sjazbec)
Nice set of instructions. That's what I have been doing and it works just as described. The only problem comes when you want to go the other direction, as the files modified or created in the iOS versions of the iWork applications are not synced back to this folder in a form useable by the Mac versions of iWork. For now I will use is as an easy way to get documents into the iOS iWork applications, but have to wait for a solution to the two way sync problem.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 15, 2011 7:44 PM (in response to dignanmorse)
I know it is not real "working" when it comes to sync back , well it does but it needs then transformed back to other formats for Mac iWork .
Anyway, this method outlined above is the only way to avoid the "drag and drop" or "upload" to a Browser - which needs also a active Internet connection - using this folder-based method you could save your files offline, then they will sync to the cloud as soon as you are connected.
Of course all of this makes only sense for people that START CREATING docs on a Mac while Apple seems to believe People start creating on a iDevice..
If you want so it is only a hack until iwork on Mac gets a default new "save to" dialog, using better folder-integration of a Users home documents place ( one could put aliases or symlinks of the app-folders into the /user/MYNAME/Documents/ for example to make it look a bit better integrated.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 16, 2011 9:19 AM (in response to Sjazbec)
Great idea -- Unfortunately the automatic transfer isn't happening. I can See the Mobile Documents folder as you describe, but there are no sub folders - putting a keynote file there doesn't work. I tried creating the com~apple~Keynote/Documents folder and dropping files there, but that didn't work either. Use iCloud is on in Keynote. I can manually move Keynote documents to iCloud using Safari and they appear in Keynote on my iPad and to my address book updates in both directions automatically, so something's working right. Do I have something set wrong for the Keynote transfer?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 16, 2011 7:41 PM (in response to Sjazbec)
Thank you for your advice, I seem to have a bit of a problem, I do not have a Mobile Documents folder in my Library, although
1- I have MAC OSX 10.7.2
2. I have Icloud
3. I have enabled the Documents and Data sync
4. I have pages on my Mac (v 4.1)
5. I have pages on my iphone (v 1.5)
so I am kinda stuck here
ca you please advise
Currently Being ModeratedOct 17, 2011 2:29 AM (in response to kszucsmunich)
I am having the exact same problem. There is no mobile documents folder in my library even though I am on Mac OS X 10.7.2 and it actually shows me the docs I am supposed to have in there in the iCloud manager. But I have no idea where they are supposed to be kept. Not in Mobile Documents. Perhaps that is hidden as well?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 17, 2011 1:37 PM (in response to nevermind82)
On the meantime my problem solved....
I am not sure why but here is what I have done
1. turned off in syspref the doc and data sync
2. restart computer
3. turn ON in syspref the doc and data sync
4. restart computer
5. le voila in library there is the folder....
6. make sure you go to the pages, documents subfolder....
hope it will help you
kristofIcloud, Mac OS X (10.7.2)
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2011 10:28 AM (in response to kszucsmunich)
Absolutely REDICULOUS that iCloud sync does not work with iWork apps on the computer. That is whole point if iCloud. What good does it do me to sync docs between my iPad and my iPhone????? How stupid.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 21, 2011 8:45 AM (in response to Sjazbec)
These are great directions.
However, it appears that documents are now getting back into the Mac from iCloud automatically if they are put there through the web interface or the hidden folder procedure described in this thread.
That is, two-way syncing seems to be partially functioning, although the Mac doesn't give direct access the documents.
- If you put an iWorks compatible file into the hidden Mobile Documents folder, it will go to iCloud and appear on all devices, Macs and iOS.
- If you put a document in iCloud through the web interface, it will automatically appear in the hidden folder on the Mac and all iOS devices.
- If you create a document on an iOS device, it will go to iCloud, but not come back to the Macs. (But a support folder for the document will be placed on the Mac.)
It appears that two things need to happen.
- iWorks on the Mac needs to save files to the appropriate hidden folders and look for them there.
- iCloud syncing from iWorks on iOS devices to the Macs needs to be implemented.
However, knowing that items I sync to iCloud from any Mac are already on my other iCloud-enabled Macs is making things easier, now that I know where to find them.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 21, 2011 2:26 PM (in response to atferli)
Unfortunately, the behavior described my previous message suddenly stopped.
It appears that a function that was turned on temporarily has been closed.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 21, 2011 3:07 PM (in response to atferli)
Actually, nothing has changed. What you're seeing is the product of the documents being reformatted for iOS versions of iWork. When you add a document to one I the iCloud sync folders on your Mac it seems to sync to the cloud and other devices fine. However, as soon as the document is accessed from an iOS version of an iWork app it is reformatted to be compatible. At this point the Mac iWork document you saved to this folder ceases to exist, and in its place you have the characteristic ".tef" file version of it, which was synced there by iOS iWORK, and is now unusable by Mac iOS.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 26, 2011 12:04 PM (in response to Sjazbec)
Turns out to have iWork file in sync accross all devices, when it comes back to the Mac, users have to ditch iCloud afterall.
If you happened to have a MobileMe account and moved to the iCloud, there's just one thing that didn't got moved, and still available for use: iDisk.
With iDisk, you don't have to login to a web browser to keep on downloading the very same file onto your Mac all the time but once, in the iOS devices and in your system preferences. iDisk sits nicely in your Finder and act as if it is a native hard drive in your Mac. Sure, it took a little file managament effort, but less hassle than logging in to iCloud and browse your Finder on where you might want to download the file to.
And yes, it also took a couple of touches to put the previously iOS altered file to the iDisk folder but the one in your Mac's iDisk will still enjoy the advantage of "versions", so you won't miss a thing also. Just make sure you "save a version" after altering the document in your iDisk, thus when you made some changes from your iOS device, you can still transfer your file to the iDisk by overwriting the file.
You also might want to erase the same file on your iOS device when you want to grab your altered document from iDisk or else the file in iOS will get duplicated. Not that renaming the file a hassle, but it doesn't hurt for being precautious.
I find this way of keeping iWork document files in sync between devices more simple than going to iCloud via web browser.
And here's where I think Apple yet again flawed this kind of cloud base service. MobileMe will cease to exist by 2012 (which is soon) where iCloud saddly don't support iDisk, so unless they update the iWork in iCloud, the other only possible way similar to that I mention above is probably WebDav.
I kind of facing a hard time looking for the right WebDav host that also has a compatible OS X client apps so that I don't have to be a system integrator to choose which WebDav to use and which client apps that easier to use to keep my iWork files in sync between my Mac and my iOS device. So if anyone in this community can fill me in on this one, please let me know.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 26, 2011 1:56 PM (in response to n0sm0)
Okay, I feel like stupid... WebDav worked just fine... iWork across all devices, iDIsk and WebDav.
Saves you a lot of headache than wondering why iWork team missed out the simplicity they put in iCloud's photo stream and many other features...
Currently Being ModeratedOct 31, 2011 5:03 PM (in response to kszucsmunich)
I tried your fix and still was not able to get the Mobile Documents folder to show. I have all the requirements enabled but the folder still doesn't show..
Has anyone else run into this and may know why it isn't showing for some?