Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2011 5:46 PM (in response to Macbookjimbo)
OK, another update. I'm now streaming from my MBP through the AppleTV (2nd gen). Issue is exactly the same, so this is not isolated to the Mac Mini. iTunes? AppleTV? TV settings?? I'll keep narrowing the possible causes.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 14, 2011 2:16 AM (in response to Macbookjimbo)
Well, 10.7.2 and iTunes 10.5 did absolutely nothing in
terms of fixing stalling issues with iTunes movies on the
2010 Mini. It also seems that it is even causing more
issues on Minis. Do these guys even test these things
on a Mini or are we their testers?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 14, 2011 2:33 AM (in response to woodmeister50)
On the EyeTV front, 10.7.2 fixes this annoying problem on my system. EyeTV now looks great—I had forgotten how smooth an HD HTPC could look on a Mac Mini.
I doubt this extra step matters for video, but I also had to use Disk Utility from the Lion recovery partition to Repair Permissions and Repair the disk after my OS upgrade.
Steps I took previously to 10.7.2 are:
1. Install 10.7.1, reset PRAM, SCM.
2. $ defaults write com.elgato.eyetv 'DisableDisplayLink' -bool yes
3. Use MiniDisplayPort->HDMI output rather than the Mini's HDMI output.
4. Download and install Elgato's latest build.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 14, 2011 8:02 AM (in response to S.T.Smith)
At least the up date fixed ONE thing. At least one other plus though,
just got a new 40" Samsung LCD TV and it fired up with no issues
connected to my Mini. My 1080p (non-Apple) stuff looks awesome.
It would really be nice if the OSX folks could understand their hardware
and also talk to the iTunes folks so that I don't have to replace
the many gigs of iTunes movies that I have.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 17, 2011 10:49 AM (in response to Macbookjimbo)
my brand new mac mini 2.3 i5 was having the video jitter issue. i plugged my macbook up to my samsung 46' tv and the video played perfectly. so i thought the issue resided with the mini. i then plugged the mini into my 23' Acer computer moniter, and it played the video fine! The mini has an issue communicating with a television. Maybe they will fix it soon.
My solution was to change the display settings on the mini to 1360 x 768. it runs perfect now on my tv, no hiccups.
I hope that apple corrects this because I want to set it full 1080i mode, but for now, this works. The picture is still clear, just not "true" HD.
Hope that helps someone! I was getting so frustrated!
Currently Being ModeratedOct 18, 2011 10:26 AM (in response to Macbookjimbo)
Just another vote for Apple to start listening. It's definitely an HDTV hookup problem for me. I have a new mid-2011 Mac Mini 2.5Ghz hooked up to an (older) Philips 50" HDTV. Stuttering on Hulu, netflix, etc.
No stuttering running on a regular lcd display.
very frustrating....I blame all the initial reviewers for not identifying this VERY COMMON flaw.
Apply, are you listening?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 18, 2011 11:49 PM (in response to Macbookjimbo)
UPDATE - The stuter issue has more to do with your TV than it does with the mini. After playing with all of the display settings on my tv, I was able so solve the jitter issue. If you own a samsung, you want to find a setting called "game mode" and turn it ON. After that is on, go to detect displays in the mac mini's settings, and try one of the displays that it detected. Everything is running smoothly now and I am thrilled.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2011 10:03 AM (in response to NickOSU)
Thanks NickOSU, I've ALSO tested this 'Game Mode' and it has resolved the lag problem for me.
To confirm I also have a Samsung LED and Unfortunately, 'Game Mode' does noticeably reduce picture quality (dims colours and flattens the image a little). Some of this can be resolved by tweaking the picture controls on the TV but the image result is not as good as when 'Game Mode ' wasn't engaged. My understanding of 'Game Mode' is that it deactivates all post processing and changes the interlacing of the picture scale (In a similar way to how 1080p and 1080i differ).
I bought a Mac Mini last week with the sole purpose of using it as a media centre. I opted for the mid range model with more RAM and a better graphics card purely to avoid playback problems of 1080p x 24 fps files. Grrrrrr...
This lag problem has been driving me nuts. First I thought it was VLC giving me problems. Then I thought it was Lion. I was also thinking about putting a solid state drive in the machine to test if this would fix it. I'm still not sure what the cause is and cannot believe that Samsung is to blame. For example, I do not have the problem if I play the same media files from my PS3 linked to the same TV using the same HDMI port and cable. Others on this forum have also resolved the issue buy removing Lion and rolling back to Snow Leopard.
Thanks again for posting your resolve. I will leave the TV in 'Game Mode' for now and test again in the coming months.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2011 11:28 AM (in response to Macbookjimbo)
TheRead, I agree with you that Samsung is not to blame
for the issue. At least with my 2010 Mini, there is no issue
with Snow Leopard or booting into Win7 64 bit. Also, Lion
in and of itself is not to blame, as PLEX and XBMC playback
1080p and DVD content perfectly. iTunes doesn't play well
with Lion. I do get an one or two "burps" with Netflix when I
watch a movie, but that is nothing new for any OS I try.
Haven't got around to trying Game Mode yet, but will see
if it is a workaround.
In my case anyway, Lion + iTunes movies = Bad Kharma!
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2011 11:35 AM (in response to NickOSU)
Even if the "TV is to blame", it sounds like a systematic compatibility problem with most HDTV's from various sizes/manufacturers... specific to the Mac Mini's.
In my case, I don't have a "Game Mode" on my tv. And I don't think it should be the user's responsibility to randomly change settings, move plugs, etc to fix it (if it's even possible).
This is not a case where I would make an Excuse for Apple. It's a bug that they should fix.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 20, 2011 1:28 AM (in response to Macbookjimbo)
Well tried the Game Mode last night. Whether the Game Mode
setting is the culprit or whether it is yet another iTunes/Lion
fupah, but shortly into trying to watch two movies, both iTunes HD,
iTunes CRASHED. In both cases, restarted the movie before the
crash point, and movie played on past that. The one movie,
for some reason, had the audio set to stereo instead of surround.
Two attempts at trying to set it to surround caused iTunes to crash.
After the third attempt, it finally switched and movie played.
The second movie, had audio selected to surround, crashed after
about 5 minutes into it. Turned off Game Mode after that.
I will say, after the crashes ceased, the movies played without issue.
So, did 10.7.2 actually fix the studdering issue? Because I did
watch an SD movie before that only had stereo and only had
one stall. So now, did 10.7.2 hose the audio so that Surround
tracks in iTunes will randomly crash?
Well at this point I no longer care anymore. I am no longer going
to purchase anymore iTune video content!!!!!! Enough is enough!!!!
My Mac Mini is a fine piece of hardware and when proper code
is written, albeit by third party, it is a great HTPC. But an
integrated Apple solution just is not there!!!!!
Currently Being ModeratedOct 20, 2011 9:35 AM (in response to woodmeister50)
It's not only with TV, the same with new 27" Thunderbolt issue. I tested all 3 models of Mac Mini (mid 2011) with Thunderbolt display and reproduced the issue at local Apple Store. It happens with or without latest software/firmware updates!