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Q: 24" iMac Screen Freezes since 10.6.3 update - pls help!

I don't know if this is just coincidence or not, but since updating my iMac to 10.6.3 it keeps on crashing. On 3 separate occasions today, whilst using my Mac the screen has gone completely black with thin white lines down it.....see pic below:

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/6SYzhCgVYEU5TBKqRfOQ1Q?feat=directlink

The fans and hard disk are still running but it will not respond to any keyboard or mouse presses - I simply have to turn it off by holding the power button in.
It will then restart as usual.

Anyone got any ideas? Do you think that if I was to re-install Mac OS X from my original install disk it could solve the issue?

Thanks

Darren

24" intel imac 2.8Ghz, Mac OS X (10.6.3)

Posted on Mar 31, 2010 2:43 PM

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Q: 24" iMac Screen Freezes since 10.6.3 update - pls help!

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  • by Tardigrada,

    Tardigrada Tardigrada Oct 21, 2011 12:26 AM in response to jaycee1980
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    Oct 21, 2011 12:26 AM in response to jaycee1980

    Hi jaycee1980, here comes the data of my affected imac8,1 with ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro:

     

    Revision ID: 0x0000

    ROM Revision: 113-B2250L-259

  • by combrains,

    combrains combrains Oct 21, 2011 1:57 AM in response to Tardigrada
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    Oct 21, 2011 1:57 AM in response to Tardigrada

    Just to add my 2 cents as an Apple tech,  If a machine were to come into my office with these issues, First thing I would suspect is a bad GPU.

     

    Obviously I would test the unit with diagnostics and see if it faulted of one of my OSs, but my gut instinct would say that many here have one of 3 things wrong with their systems: faulty GPU, faulty logic board or faulty RAM.  Best thing to do is to get the machine serviced.

     

    To those who have had service only to have the problem return: believe me, it frustrates techs as much as it frustrates customers to see a machine that was fixed come back a few days later with the same issue

  • by jaycee1980,

    jaycee1980 jaycee1980 Oct 21, 2011 3:46 AM in response to combrains
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    Oct 21, 2011 3:46 AM in response to combrains

    combrains, the frustrating thing is, my affected iMac (with Radeon 2400) has no GPU issue in 10.6.3 or in Windows 7 - I have thrashed it with several GPU "torture" tools under Windows, checked VRAM, and everything is fine, no graphics corruption, no freezes. The GPU is definitely working hard as the fans spin up and the machine gets a lot warmer than normal.

     

    Also, if the GPU was faulty, the issue would not go away when you revert to the earlier kext's. It is quite clearly a driver issue perhaps caused by some hardware/firmware errata, but it IS fixable. Apple are simply not interested and want people to buy new hardware, which is unacceptable.

     

    My affected GPU is: Vendor: 1002, Device 94C8, Revision 0

    ROM revision   113-B22503-X26C

  • by Luis A. Vizzotto,

    Luis A. Vizzotto Luis A. Vizzotto Oct 21, 2011 5:07 AM in response to jaycee1980
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    Oct 21, 2011 5:07 AM in response to jaycee1980

    Hi Jaycee

     

    Have been getting the freezes since 10.6.3. Now I have 10.7.1 - same problems, solved with the Kext fixes.

     

    Here's my computer specs:

     

    iMac 7.1

    Graphics card: ATI 2400

    Revision ID:    0x0000

    ROM Revision: 113-B2250A-207

  • by Brian from VA,

    Brian from VA Brian from VA Oct 21, 2011 6:13 AM in response to Luis A. Vizzotto
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    Oct 21, 2011 6:13 AM in response to Luis A. Vizzotto

    I was getting the freezes every day (at cool CPU temps).  Now "resolved" by running OS X 10.6.8 in 64-bit mode with the 10.6.2 Kext fixes.

     

    My affected machine (same as Tardigrada):

     

    iMac 8,1

    Graphics card:    ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro

    Revision ID:        0x0000

    ROM Revision:   113-B2250L-259

  • by richard.s.hall,

    richard.s.hall richard.s.hall Oct 21, 2011 7:20 AM in response to Brian from VA
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    Oct 21, 2011 7:20 AM in response to Brian from VA

    Here is the info for my affected iMac 7.1:

     

    ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT:

    Chipset Model:    ATI,RadeonHD2400

    Revision ID:    0x0000

    ROM Revision:    113-B2250A-207

     

    Working fine with Lion 10.7.2 and kext 10.6.2.

  • by Simon Baker,

    Simon Baker Simon Baker Oct 21, 2011 7:21 AM in response to DazzaG
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    Oct 21, 2011 7:21 AM in response to DazzaG

    Mine is iMac 8,1

      Boot ROM Version:          IM81.00C1.B00

      SMC Version (system):          1.29f1

     

      Chipset Model:          ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro

      Type:          GPU

      Bus:          PCIe

      PCIe Lane Width:          x16

      VRAM (Total):          256 MB

      Vendor:          ATI (0x1002)

      Device ID:          0x9583

      Revision ID:          0x0000

      ROM Revision:          113-B2250L-259

      EFI Driver Version:          01.00.259

     

      System Version:          Mac OS X 10.7.2 (11C74)

      Kernel Version:          Darwin 11.2.0

    ATI extensions all 7.2.9

     

    8d and 18h now. But very disappointed to hear that no one else seems to have shared this unexpected

    stability without the 10.6.2 kexts or bumped up fans.

     

  • by iLove Mac,

    iLove Mac iLove Mac Oct 21, 2011 11:32 AM in response to Carolyn Samit
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    Oct 21, 2011 11:32 AM in response to Carolyn Samit

    Thank You! This worked for me :-)

  • by combrains,

    combrains combrains Oct 21, 2011 10:59 PM in response to iLove Mac
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    Oct 21, 2011 10:59 PM in response to iLove Mac

    Has anyone checked out this article?

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1293

     

    The update can be found here: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL71

     

    I would recommend reverting to the original kexts for your OS after running the update.  I can see a couple of you who have posted you profiles here have not yet run this update - hopefully this should fix for most of you

     

    HTH

  • by Tardigrada,

    Tardigrada Tardigrada Oct 22, 2011 1:27 AM in response to combrains
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    Oct 22, 2011 1:27 AM in response to combrains

    This update is for iMac 8,1 only, and it looks like all of those reported here are up-to-date.

     

    I tried the newer 1.0.2 variant, but it says my iMac doesn't need it …

     

    BTW: Is it possible to downgrade the firmware? Who knows, maybe the problem is a firmware regression.

  • by Tardigrada,

    Tardigrada Tardigrada Oct 22, 2011 2:00 AM in response to Tardigrada
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    Oct 22, 2011 2:00 AM in response to Tardigrada

    Tardigrada wrote:

     

    I tried the newer 1.0.2 variant, but it says my iMac doesn't need it …

    Somewhat interesting, the log entry says:

     

    Installer[49873]    Package Authoring Warning: Package reference does not include required hash for package id auto.

     

    Is that update broken?

  • by Brian from VA,

    Brian from VA Brian from VA Oct 22, 2011 6:08 AM in response to Tardigrada
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    Oct 22, 2011 6:08 AM in response to Tardigrada

    Thanks, combrains for the idea.  According to my ROM Revision, I've already got it applied to my iMac 8,1 -- which makes sense because I've always installed whatever Software Update served up to me.  I also remember another graphics update becoming available and being disappointed that it wasn't offered to my iMac... it must have been the 1.0.2 variant, as I specifically remember it as being "advertised" as applying to only some iMac 8,1 systems.

  • by crinfante,

    crinfante crinfante Oct 22, 2011 8:34 AM in response to jaycee1980
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    Oct 22, 2011 8:34 AM in response to jaycee1980

    Hi Jaycee,

     

    I have a ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro with the following:

     

    Revision ID:          0x0000

    ROM Revision:          113-B2250L-259

    EFI Driver Version:          01.00.259

     

    I've contacted Applecare again (twice) and I'm still waiting to hear back from them after the support specialist said he would check with his "engineers" after I sent videos of my frozen iMac and a description of the kext fix. That was almost 3 weeks ago now.

     

    Still waiting...

  • by Eclipsethegalaxy,

    Eclipsethegalaxy Eclipsethegalaxy Oct 22, 2011 9:16 AM in response to crinfante
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    Oct 22, 2011 9:16 AM in response to crinfante

    I'm still confused as to why the freezing screen occurs with other graphics cards as well as the Radeons. I have a NVIDIA GeForce Gt130 card, which was replaced a l

    ittle over a year ago. The freezing increased with every update. By the time I got to Lion 10.7.2 the lock ups were at a frequency of several times an hour. It would consistently freeze waking up from sleep mode. I noticed how incredibly hot my computer was one day and downloaded 'FANCONTROL' for Mac for free. I increased fan speed marginally. My now cooler CPU NEVER freezes. Even when I tax it to the max. I have done nothing else to my Kext files. I have spoken with a number of Apple service technicians and all seem unaware of the issues we are discussing. None have read these feeds.

  • by Tardigrada,

    Tardigrada Tardigrada Oct 22, 2011 9:38 AM in response to Eclipsethegalaxy
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    Mac OS X
    Oct 22, 2011 9:38 AM in response to Eclipsethegalaxy

    As the Radeon related freezes discussed here are

    • independent of the sleep mode,
    • independent of CPU/GPU temperature,
    • independent of playing video, flash, whatever,
    • but dependent one the kext versions,

    I would say that the GeForce issue really is a different one. I understand that one doesn't want to suffer all alone, but why don't you just open a new thread for the GeForce issue? Please don't understand me wrong, but for the Radeon people (which are beyond e.g. cooling their CPU/GPU) this is just extra noise to be filtered out …

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