Rob Weinberg

Q: Pages and Numbers Not Syncing in iCloud

Bookmarks, Contacts and Calendars are all syncing with icloud. Works beautifully, however when I change a Pages or Numbers  document on my MacBook Pro, it doesn't sync with my ipad. itunes 10.5, ios 5, Lion 7.2 in use. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Rob

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.1), 2.2 Ghz Intel Core i7, 8 GB Ram

Posted on Oct 12, 2011 5:51 PM

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  • by bobbyv3333,

    bobbyv3333 bobbyv3333 Oct 19, 2011 6:16 AM in response to jackfromwellington
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    Oct 19, 2011 6:16 AM in response to jackfromwellington

    I discovered, by accedent that it is how you log in that determines which screen you get. I have both a mac.com and a me.com address. I don't know why or how, but that is not the issue here. Both came from years of paying for mobile me(and .mac before that). I thought that the two were interchangeable, but they are not. If I log into icloud.com with @mac.com I get the advertising screen, but if I log with @me.com I get the proper screen where I can drag and drop files. I get mail addressed to either in my icloud mailbox however.

  • by Sjazbec,

    Sjazbec Sjazbec Oct 19, 2011 6:56 AM in response to Catsman
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    Oct 19, 2011 6:56 AM in response to Catsman

    Catsman wrote:

     

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    All I want to do (and I assumed I could) is write a document on my Macbook. When I go out or get a good idea while doing something else,  edit it the same document on my iPad and return to working on it at home on the Macbook.

     

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    Not as Apple wants us to do it , the way to do is this :

     

    1. You open pages on your Mac 10.7.2 Mac, edit your document, save it to wherever you do on the Mac.

     

    2. You fire up Safari, visit www.icloud.com and login. Then click on the "iwork" section. Now drag and drop your local document ( format : pages , doc , docx ) and drop it to the open browser.

     

    3. Now it will appear on your iPad ( provided it has iOS5 and pages 1.5 on it and is set to use icloud )

     

    4. After closing the document on your iPad the changes are synced to www.icloud.com.

     

    5. In order to open the changed document on your Mac, you need again go via safari to www.icloud.com, iwork section, pages and can then download your file from on the road to your Download folder on OSX.

     

    6. Open pages on the Mac, File -> Open -> Document in Download Folder.

     

    7. Now you must remember that this file exists on your Mac in two versions : the newer one in the Downloads Folder and the original that you initially have drag and dropped on icloud.com.

     

     

    All this is because icloud-documents is ONLY syncing iOS, never to OSX.

  • by skizzinegliokki,

    skizzinegliokki skizzinegliokki Oct 19, 2011 9:28 AM in response to Sjazbec
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:28 AM in response to Sjazbec

    Well thanks much, if I have to save it and log in into icloud and look for the iwork folder and drag and drop and then go back again and take it out and look for the older version of the document and delete it... I'll just keep using my dropbox then!

  • by dave_a,

    dave_a dave_a Oct 19, 2011 9:39 AM in response to Sjazbec
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:39 AM in response to Sjazbec

    Thank you for this bit of advice - although it is not a perfect solution it is certainly very helpful because at least it ensures that a Document created in Pages on a Mac does open directly in the Pages App on an iOS 5 device.

  • by dougsymon,

    dougsymon dougsymon Oct 19, 2011 9:39 AM in response to skizzinegliokki
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:39 AM in response to skizzinegliokki

    Agreed. It's worse than Dropbox and what's even more ridiculous: it is worse than using iDisk!

     

    Big big mistake from Apple. They just have to make sure advanced features in mac pages are not edited/removed in iOS pages. Seems as mentioned there is already a solution available for this so it is a must to implement in my opinion.

     

    Are apple really going to fail twice with cloud computing? Maybe third time lucky ;). Afterall failing is a good thing.

     

    Something strikingly missing from their cloud solution so far is collaboration. The clouds in the sky are certainly pointing to google!

  • by Christopher Mckinney,

    Christopher Mckinney Christopher Mckinney Oct 19, 2011 10:32 AM in response to Sjazbec
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    Oct 19, 2011 10:32 AM in response to Sjazbec

    Unfortunately, Apple has proved yet again that it just doesn't get the cloud.  The current iwork on the Website solution is a joke. How can they not at the very least give us a sync folder on the computer (aka Dropbox) that syncs automatically to iCloud. 

     

    Appled pitched a solution that you wouldn't have to think about - just close your laptop and open your iPad and, bingo, there is your file. 

     

    They failed to deliver.  Very disappointed.

  • by Sjazbec,

    Sjazbec Sjazbec Oct 19, 2011 10:41 AM in response to dave_a
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    Oct 19, 2011 10:41 AM in response to dave_a

    dave_a wrote:

     

    .. at least it ensures that a Document created in Pages on a Mac does open directly in the Pages App on an iOS 5 device.

    It will . But fonts might be replaced and comments removed, formatting might be off here and there. Pages iOS and Pages OSX are not 100% compatible, but in general it works, yes. Same for Microsoft Office 2008 and 2011 , the basic document with embedded cliparts/pictures is the same on iOS, but sometimes a blank page is where it should not be, drop shadows and advanced effects however survive the transfer..

  • by Sjazbec,

    Sjazbec Sjazbec Oct 19, 2011 10:45 AM in response to Christopher Mckinney
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    Oct 19, 2011 10:45 AM in response to Christopher Mckinney
    They failed to deliver.  Very disappointed.

     

    Yes. Me, too.

     

    Some folks here even think I make jokes when I explain how to get Mac docs to the cloud.. so "intuitive" is it !

  • by cromulence,

    cromulence cromulence Oct 19, 2011 1:42 PM in response to Rob Weinberg
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    Oct 19, 2011 1:42 PM in response to Rob Weinberg

    It seems the docs do sync to the Mac, just not anywhere useful - ~/Library/Mobile Documents/{app}/Documents

     

    Addendum - also in a useless format. If you edit the sheet(for instance) on an iDevice, it's no longer in a proper iWork format.

  • by beaufenner,

    beaufenner beaufenner Oct 19, 2011 9:08 PM in response to Rob Weinberg
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:08 PM in response to Rob Weinberg

    I assumed that iCloud would be pretty much like DropBox except with the added bonuses of contacts/calendar/email/photo syncing and the legitimizer service (i.e., iTunes Match).

     

    In terms of document storage, DropBox seems to be superior in pretty much every way. No file type restrictions, automatic syncing and excellent OS integration. I'm really puzzled by Apple this time - surely somebody there must have known that it was inferior to DropBox in terms of document management. At the very least they should add an iCloud folder to all iCloud-enabled Macs and devices - I don't see how it would cause them any drama.

  • by dieterfromdowney,

    dieterfromdowney dieterfromdowney Oct 19, 2011 10:59 PM in response to Christopher Mckinney
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    Oct 19, 2011 10:59 PM in response to Christopher Mckinney

    Keep in mind that Apple has been working on developing Lion 7.2 and iOS 5.0 for quite a while. iWork's for MAC is the 2009 edition with some additions but obviously they are working on a new release for the MAC, at least I hope so. The iPad version of iWork's is pretty darn good, I use Pages and Numbers every day. For now, even though I'm not happy about it, I can live with the manual syncing process of using the iCloud.com website to upload and download documents to sync with my iPad. Hopefully the day will come when whatever I do on my MAC in the office is automatically synced to my iMac at home and to my iPad. Then I'll be happy.  I think Apple took on a lot with releasing the operating systems  updates and icloud at the same time, but once the smoke settles we'll all realize how great this stuff really is.

  • by Sapphire2011,

    Sapphire2011 Sapphire2011 Oct 20, 2011 4:41 PM in response to Rob Weinberg
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    Oct 20, 2011 4:41 PM in response to Rob Weinberg

    I too am very dissapointed this doesn't work - I bought my iPad only today mainly because I thought I could work on and sync my numbers and pages documents. I am sooo dissapointed - please apple fix this and very soon. please please please!

  • by mlaurenceimac,

    mlaurenceimac mlaurenceimac Oct 23, 2011 1:20 PM in response to dieterfromdowney
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    Oct 23, 2011 1:20 PM in response to dieterfromdowney

    I would like to agree with you optimistic viewpoint Dieter, and hope that in the near future we'll see iWork '12 that resolves the situation.  However, that this was not thought out in advance does make one wonder if Apple is trying to encourage (force) us into a world of solely iOS.

  • by um who am i?,

    um who am i? um who am i? Oct 23, 2011 2:06 PM in response to Rob Weinberg
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    Oct 23, 2011 2:06 PM in response to Rob Weinberg

    I really cant believe this isnt going to be resolved. Its a step backwards from Mobile Me if it isnt but I am sure it will be because in the iCloud system preferences on the mac, there is a tick box for documents in the Sky. It must be there for a reason.

  • by holgerfromwettstetten,

    holgerfromwettstetten holgerfromwettstetten Oct 30, 2011 3:43 PM in response to Rob Weinberg
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    Oct 30, 2011 3:43 PM in response to Rob Weinberg

    i´m also totally disapointet...

    i buyed the ipad to work with dokuments...

    so far so good, i have to buy numbers and Pages... 15 € ... ok

    but then i can´t use a WORKING system?   *huuuuuuuu*?

    - Pages 1.5 is breaking down every 30 minutes of use... 

     

    - icloud is not beta, its alpha....

     

    the funktions are SO limited that its USELESS

    and them pages and numbers have no ability to save on Dropbox?

    and nooooooooooowwww?

     

    i buy such an expensive tablet, buy an INHOUSE Office and canz use it...

    i´m so dissapointed...

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