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  • 180. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    deggie Level 8 Level 8 (46,535 points)

    Interesting concept, external track pad with a laptop that has a trackpad. But I'm not sure that would work. My solution was to get a new MBP which also got me Thunderbolt.

     

    Back to the point: get a barrister and file a suit against Apple to recover your losses in installing iOS 5 on your iPad. There is nothing else to be done. Since you paid nothing for iOS 5, and you lost nothing from your iPad, that would be 0 pounds, euros, whatever. But at least while you are in court your attorney might be able to get the Apple attorneys to reveal why they didn't include that and other features. Assuming they don't claim proprietary knowledge.

  • 181. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    RolandoS Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    deggie wrote:

     

    You also did not obtain Siri, a camera, faster speeds, etc. And when iOS 6 comes out there will be more features not available to you. ****, by 5.5 that will probably be true. And there are charts showing what feature of iOS 5 are available on which devices. But "people" did not expect it, just those that had developer accounts. And Apple (nor any other computer company) announces what features won't be available. And it is not at all unusual during beta testing to have features that do no make final release, or are restricted to certain hardware.

    Deggie,

     

    Apple has the right to withhold whatever features it wants.  The problem here is that they misguided people upgrading, even if unintentionally, about what features would not be available for iPad 1.  I had been using multi gestures under iOS 4.3 via Xcode and was very happy with the performance.  If I had known that gestures would not be available for iPad 1 in iOS 5, I would have been surprised but not angry.  I simply would not have upgraded to iOS 5 and kept my multi gestures.  But I only found out after I had already upgraded, and Apple won't allow you to return to the previous system, which would have resolved my problem.  I would just have waited for the other features of iOS 5 until I could purchase a new machine where Apple would support multi gestures.

     

    I don't understand why Apple prefers to forcibly keep customers dissatisfied in a system upgrade that they're not happy with, rather than let them downgrade back to the system they were happy with.

  • 182. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    deggie Level 8 Level 8 (46,535 points)

    Again: You paid your money and put BETA software on your iPad. Whenever you are testing Beta software there is always a chance the feature will not be implemented or will only run on limited platforms. There are ways you can roll back to 4.3.5, just use Google. They misled nobody.

  • 183. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    Albertorius Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Deggie:

     

    Again... yes. They misled. And continue doing so. I was not expecting AirPlay Mirroring for the Ipad 1, because in the iOS 5 page it states clearly that is for iPad 2. They did not state that in the case of Multitasking gestures. It only says "iPad 2" in the US page now, and only after the fact. For the rest of the world, it is still advertising it as "Multitasking gestures for iPad", with not indication whatsoever to "only iPad 2"... and then Airplay Mirroring, a couple centimeters at its right, is clearly stated as "for iPad 2".

     

    So... obfuscating advertising?

  • 184. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    RolandoS Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Misleading is in the eye of the beholder.  You may not have been misled, but you can't argue that there are plenty of people that feel misled.  And I did Google and found out how to roll back to 4.3.5.  I downloaded 4.3.5, put my iPad into DFU and tried to restore from 4.3.5.  But when it tried to register with Apple, I got the message that my device was not eligible for that system.

     

    I'm assuming that you mean by jailbreaking, but I'm not willing to jailbreak.

  • 185. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    OllieO96 Level 2 Level 2 (240 points)

    you may have to turn it on in settings - go to general and slide Multitaskung gestures to on

     

    Hope this helps

  • 186. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    markhud Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

    Ollie

     

    If you don't have an iPad2 you don't have that option, that is what iPad1 users are so annoyed about.

  • 187. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    OllieO96 Level 2 Level 2 (240 points)

    Sorry, i didn't realise - i thought that this option was available for all models!

  • 188. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (74,885 points)

    OllieO96 wrote:

     

    you may have to turn it on in settings - go to general and slide Multitaskung gestures to on

    If you notice this entire discussion is that this feature is not available on the iPad 1

    There is no Settings > General > Multitasking gestures.

  • 189. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    JVXB Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)

    Ollie, you're the second person (I notice with a high Level of troubleshooting help), who has waded in here to offer advice without reading what the entire thread has been about. Poor thing, you probably did so with the best intentions. But to recap:

     

    MULTI-GESTURES WERE NOT IMPLEMENTED ON iPAD1 AFTER THE IOS 5 UPGRADE. Original iPad owners in this thread are upset, due to what they consider having been double-crossed at the last minute with an irreversible upgrade. Apple changed their wording after iOS 5 was out, leaving many owners with a sour taste. But in some countries (like the UK), the wording still suggests all iPads can get multi-gestures after upgrade.

  • 190. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    JVXB Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)

    In my opinion, your reply was the best one of all in this thread. Calm, rational, polite. Thanks for that.

     

    I'm British, too, like several others who commented, though I live in the USA. In our country, there is a law called the Trade Descriptions Act. It's there to prevent tradespeople from peddling goods with false descriptions of what they are or offer. According to a few commenters above, in the UK, at least, the Apple website states clearly that Multi-Gestures are available to iPad owners in iOS. They are liable for their wording, though realistically few or none will sue them.

     

    However, in the US, it states they are for iPad2, only, but it was done so AFTER the fact, which for many people constitutes sharp practise.

     

    Sharp practise is hard to define. But basically it's about being sneaky.

     

    And the outrage we read here for those not willing to semi-jailbreak or to implement my tip about "Accessibility" (where you get some multi-gestures in the Settings), is because we don't associate Apple with that kind of cynicism.

     

    Sometimes they goof, like the antenna woes on iPhone 4, but multi-gestures not being implemented on a gadget which can handle it, seems a play to get people to buy a new gadget, so commenters are mentally totalling up greed and cynicism together which equals to a very negative experience.

  • 191. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (74,885 points)

    JVXB wrote:

     

    I'm British, too, like several others who commented, though I live in the USA. In our country, there is a law called the Trade Descriptions Act. It's there to prevent tradespeople from peddling goods with false descriptions of what they are or offer. According to a few commenters above, in the UK, at least, the Apple website states clearly that Multi-Gestures are available to iPad owners in iOS. They are liable for their wording, though realistically few or none will sue them.

    Note that it also shows a picture of an iPad 2.
    Not arguing, just pointing out that fact.

  • 192. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    JVXB Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)

    Thanks, Chris; indeed, it does. My guess is that since they no longer sell iPad1s, they do not want to confuse potential owners with the two versions. It's interesting that in the USA Apple site, they do make the distinction.

  • 193. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    malsdq Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @givememygestures - My iPad 1 is acting VERY SLUGGISH since the upgrade to IOS 5.  I play words with frieds all the all the time and it takes 20 or 30 seconds to load if I switch the screen to another program or even to another game. The waiting game is killing me. I can't move the letters, I can't move to another game...I doubt this is all a memory things so I haven't mofidied and new apps (adding/deleting) since the upgrade. Something is causing this to lock up until it 'reloads' or something. VERY FRUSTRATING.  Just wanted to let you know I'm having the same problems and hope another upgrade fixes this soon.

     

    M.

  • 194. Re: No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!
    Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (74,885 points)

    malsdq wrote:

     

    @givememygestures - My iPad 1 is acting VERY SLUGGISH since the upgrade to IOS 5.

     

     

    Try resetting the iPad.

    Press and hold Home and Power until your see the Apple logo.

    Ignore the red Power off slider.

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