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  • Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (39,335 points)
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    Oct 20, 2011 11:01 AM (in response to christopher rigby1)

    That is not true of hardware. As new features are added to the hardware older versions of OS X are no longer compatable.

     

    Besides it is Apple policy that they will only support the version of OS X that the hardware had when it shipped. Anything older then that is not supported.

     

    The two level support is for update to OS X. They only go back tow levels.

     

    The refurbished Mac that still have SL are getting fewer and fewer all the time.

     

    You might be forced to eBay iunstead.

     

    Allan

  • christopher rigby1 Level 4 Level 4 (2,070 points)
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    Oct 20, 2011 11:11 AM (in response to christopher rigby1)

    There's something wrong with your posts Allan - I keep having to reply to my own post as yours (which is in my email) isn't here! But it appears a few minutes later.

     

    To answer your hardware point :

     

    Going back a few years, the biggest software change ever was to OS X. That was supported along with OS 9 via dual boot machines up to OS 10.2, and via Classic until 10.4.

     

    The biggest HARDWARE change so far was the change to Intel. Yet Tiger AND Leopard were both supported on G4 and G5s as well as Intel Macs. Only with Snow Leopard were PPCs not supported.

     

    There is no greater hardware change than the switch to Intel, but clearly Apple have the will to support 'current + previous OS' through huge software and hardware changes - the biggest of which have already occurred. I see no reason why they should suddenly abandon that philosophy.

  • Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (39,335 points)
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    Oct 20, 2011 11:13 AM (in response to christopher rigby1)

    You are forgeting about ThunderBolt and a bunch of graphics cards. They are all count.

     

    Allan

  • christopher rigby1 Level 4 Level 4 (2,070 points)
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    Oct 20, 2011 12:23 PM (in response to christopher rigby1)

    Giving up this discussion - email replies just aren't arriving here, aa there is a mysterious "Branched to new discussion" link which doesn't work for me.

  • Ronda Wilson Level 8 Level 8 (40,555 points)
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    Oct 20, 2011 1:57 PM (in response to christopher rigby1)

    Allan's right, though. If you buy a new Mac, previous versions of the OS will not come with it, and most likely will not work with it. It's been this way for a very long time. I found it out when I tried to run Mac OS 9.0.4 on an iMac that came with Mac OS 9.1. I ended up with a tiny little version of the OS in the center of the display. The solution was to install the OS version that came with the iMac.

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2186?viewlocale=en_US

  • Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (39,335 points)
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    Oct 20, 2011 2:05 PM (in response to Ronda Wilson)

    Thank you for your confirmation, Ronda.

     

    Allan

  • Ronda Wilson Level 8 Level 8 (40,555 points)
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    Oct 20, 2011 4:33 PM (in response to Allan Eckert)

    You're welcome. I found out the hard way, sort of, but not nearly as hard as if you were trying to install Snow Leopard on a Lion computer. If you didn't know that Rosetta wasn't included you'd be in a world of hurt with that new Mac.

     

    I have to have Quicken and my Solitaire game is PowerPC, too. AppleWorks is not my only reason for sticking with Snow Leopard.

     

    I bought this MacBook Pro before Lion was released so that I would have the last, best 13-incher that would still run PowerPC applications (with Snow Leopard).

     

    I wish they'd release Rosetta in the App Store. There may be incompatibility reasons why it wasn't included with Lion, though. From what I've read, Lion is the biggest change in the OS since OS 9 > OS X, and is looking a lot like the operating system running on the iPad and iPhone.

    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 13-inch i7/2.7 GHz/8 GB
  • Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (39,335 points)
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:06 PM (in response to Ronda Wilson)

    Yes, I have read that it would take a total rewrite of Rosetta in order to make it compatable with Lion. Apple didn't feel the cost was worth it.

     

    Allan

  • christopher rigby1 Level 4 Level 4 (2,070 points)
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    Oct 22, 2011 4:19 AM (in response to Ronda Wilson)

    Ronda - I think you missed my point? My intention was NOT to buy Snow Leopard to install on a Lion (or later) machine. It was to buy Snow Leopard in order to install it in a VIRTUAL machine e.g. in Parallels. This has already been demonstrated by Yvan in these forums. That would be purely to protect apps that need Rosetta (Office, Photoshop CS, Elements 6, AW, all of which would be far too expensive to add to the cost of a new machine, especially when set against the modest price of SL + Parallels).

  • Ronda Wilson Level 8 Level 8 (40,555 points)
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    Oct 23, 2011 11:31 PM (in response to christopher rigby1)

    Well, get it while you can before you have to pay five times what it costs from Apple.

     

    I bought my copy after Lion came out, and the price had already gone up on Amazon.

     

    http://store.apple.com/us/search?find=snow+leopard

  • davoaj Calculating status...
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    Oct 24, 2011 1:34 AM (in response to don gmt)

    I use the outdated appleworks 6 to make draw documents. if i upgrade to lion i won't be able to anymore.

    you need to reintroduce rosetta or introduce appleworks 7 or add to the iwork family with a paint and drawing app that can open .cwk format!!!

     

     

    please help apple from david!

     

    drew this on appleworks 6

    ipod touch and not showing u ipod classic. to scared i wont get credit for it!!!:Sipod touch 6.png

  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (63,965 points)
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    Oct 24, 2011 2:03 AM (in response to davoaj)

    davoaj wrote:

     

     

    you need to reintroduce rosetta or introduce appleworks 7 or add to the iwork family with a paint and drawing app that can open .cwk format!!!

    This is a user-to-user forum: you're not talking to Apple here. There is no chance of Apple restoring Rosetta or updating AppleWorks.

     

    Pages will not import AppleWorks drawing documents. The only programs which can do this are EazyDraw and Intaglio (though when I tested the demo the latter wouldn't open complex drawings). If you are dealing with complex technical drawings EazyDraw is probably the best choice: it's about the same cost as the whole of iWork (when downloaded, and rather more expensive on a CD), but cheaper than some other vector based programs, and seems to handle the whole process well - though it does operate somewhat differently from AppleWorks. There is a much cheaper version available on the Mac App Store, but note that it does not open AppleWorks Draw Documents.

     

    However draw documents can be imported into Pages by a process described on this page:

     

    http://www.wilmut.webspace.virginmedia.com/notes/aw/page3.html

     

    Nothing will open AppleWorks paint documents and you would need to export then as JPG or PNG first.

  • John Walsh4 Calculating status...
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    Oct 24, 2011 10:01 AM (in response to christopher rigby1)

    As far as I am aware, this will require the Snow Leopard Server, as opposed to Snow Leopard. I have been unable to get Snow Leopard to install on a new iMac with Parallels so far. If you manage it, please let me know how you get on.

     

    Best wishes

     

    John

  • Ronda Wilson Level 8 Level 8 (40,555 points)
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    Oct 24, 2011 10:03 PM (in response to Roger Wilmut1)

    EasyDraw's AppleWorks Import info page is here:

     

    http://www.eazydraw.com/appleWorks.htm

     

    EasyDraw Retro is necessary for importing AppleWorks drawings in Lion.

  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (63,965 points)
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    Oct 24, 2011 11:48 PM (in response to Ronda Wilson)

    Thanks Ronda, they've changed that since the last time I looked - basically they've updated it but removed the AW import facility in the new version.

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