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  • vcarra Calculating status...
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    Nov 5, 2011 8:50 PM (in response to Michael Empric)

    I Ran It, And I Hot This:

    Processes: 81 total, 5 running, 2 stuck, 74 sleeping, 373 threads      20:46:50

    Load Avg: 0.71, 0.76, 0.82  CPU usage: 16.19% user, 8.57% sys, 75.23% idle

    SharedLibs: 12M resident, 2952K data, 0B linkedit.

    MemRegions: 13096 total, 638M resident, 44M private, 300M shared.

    PhysMem: 297M wired, 1118M active, 172M inactive, 1588M used, 459M free.

    VM: 174G vsize, 1118M framework vsize, 650742(2) pageins, 338(0) pageouts.

    Networks: packets: 415741/509M in, 270877/29M out.

    Disks: 81680/3302M read, 56771/2093M written.

     

     

    PID   COMMAND      %CPU TIME     #TH  #WQ  #PORT #MREG RPRVT  RSHRD  RSIZE

    1744- Google Chrom 18.1 04:38.98 6/1  1    100   950+  167M+  50M    194M+

    2000- Google Chrom 8.9  00:10.45 7    2    102   720   79M+   50M    105M+

    168-  Google Chrom 8.8  17:29.18 26   2    1593  713   100M   94M    164M

    2009  top          4.8  00:03.60 1/1  0    28    29    896K   216K   1600K

    0     kernel_task  2.9  07:08.24 64/2 0    2     717   12M    0B     240M

    73    hidd         1.4  01:41.62 5    3    64    51    748K   240K   1764K

    1659- Google Chrom 0.8  00:50.17 9    1    232   1081  26M    55M    63M

    2003  Terminal     0.5  00:01.88 5    1    123   157   6900K  22M    25M

    244-  RealPlayer D 0.4  00:59.86 3    1    82    76    1216K  5620K  3844K

    96    WindowServer 0.4  06:26.69 5    1    247   808   11M-   48M    61M

    225-  BBLaunchAgen 0.3  00:41.48 6    1    96    82    868K   5660K  3584K

    242   VMware Fusio 0.1  00:18.35 6/1  1    222   163   10M    6780K  28M

    66    mds          0.1  00:41.01 6    4    136   187   31M    13M    43M

    172   Finder       0.0  00:39.03 5    2    205-  732-  16M-   66M    6

     

    Looks Ok To Me. Allthough I Still Get 3hrs On Battery, And It's Runnung Hot.

     

    MacbookPro 15" 2008

  • Ilhan Kudeki Calculating status...
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    Nov 5, 2011 9:08 PM (in response to vcarra)

    Here's some evidence that if the issue is acknowledged widely-enough, Apple will admit to a problem and begin working on a fix: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/11/02/ios-5-battery

     

    And some people say that Apple doesn't admit to problems ahead of time, only when they release a fix sly-ly..    

     

    It seems we have a lot more work to do to bring this issue to Apple's attention. 

     

    Anybody have any ideas?  All ideas are welcome:

     

    * blogs we can contact, with editors' names

    * newspaper journalists to contact

    * a template for a letter to Apple about the issue -- possibly a petition

    * how to make better use of our Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/mbp.battery.life

     

    Let's start doing something to really bring this to Apple's attention on a large scale.    

  • Redarm Level 4 Level 4 (2,565 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 2:01 AM (in response to RBbeachbum)

    RBbeachbum wrote:

     

    (You can't see Daemons from the Activity Monitor).

     

    Since when?

     

    Edit: What are all those processes with a "d" at the end then?

  • Rayced Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 2:24 AM (in response to Redarm)

    Redarm wrote:

     

    RBbeachbum wrote:

     

    (You can't see Daemons from the Activity Monitor).

     

    Since when?

     

    Edit: What are all those processes with a "d" at the end then?

     

     

    It seems also that there are users not aware of the possibility to sort processes by CPU usage in Activity Monitor.

     

    BTW I'm experiencing a huge loss of battery power when the system is in sleep mode (laptop with a closed lid). I had a drain of about 4% to 5% of battery in about 8 hours. I don't remember experiencing such a bad performance with SL, but I could be wrong.

  • Redarm Level 4 Level 4 (2,565 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 2:58 AM (in response to Rayced)

    No, you are not wrong.  I've noticed the same.  Leaving it overnight loses ca. 5% under Lion and 1% to 2% under SnowLeopard.  If I had to guess I would say it's the wireless connection being on standby, but what do I know.

  • Rayced Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 3:36 AM (in response to Redarm)

    Redarm wrote:

     

    No, you are not wrong.  I've noticed the same.  Leaving it overnight loses ca. 5% under Lion and 1% to 2% under SnowLeopard.  If I had to guess I would say it's the wireless connection being on standby, but what do I know.

    Ok thanks. I'd probably try to test this out with a few different changes in settings before letting the laptop go to sleep ("wake up on network" on and off and setting wifi off prior putting the mac to sleep overnight).

     

    What aabout fans speed too? Is there someone exeriencing them spinning at faster speed rate on regular basis since installing Lion? Mine are constantly at around 2000 rpm even if CPU usage never goes up at all (I use menumeters to keep an on it). Again I could be wrong but to me under SL they were spinning at a lower speed on a regular basis.

  • Redarm Level 4 Level 4 (2,565 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 4:00 AM (in response to Rayced)

    Rayced wrote:

     

    What aabout fans speed too? Is there someone exeriencing them spinning at faster speed rate on regular basis since installing Lion? Mine are constantly at around 2000 rpm even if CPU usage never goes up at all (I use menumeters to keep an on it). Again I could be wrong but to me under SL they were spinning at a lower speed on a regular basis.

    Strangely I haven't noticed any increase in heat or fan speed.  But that would definitely ask for more battery power.

  • Rayced Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 4:40 AM (in response to Redarm)

    Redarm wrote:

     

    Strangely I haven't noticed any increase in heat or fan speed.  But that would definitely ask for more battery power.

     

    Can you check and post your fan speed too? To me my laptop temperatures are higher than before, but I could be wrong and I should investigate more about that.

  • Redarm Level 4 Level 4 (2,565 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 7:12 AM (in response to Rayced)

    Rayced wrote:

    Can you check and post your fan speed too? To me my laptop temperatures are higher than before, but I could be wrong and I should investigate more about that.

    Not at the moment.  I'm checking something else for which I needed a "clean" system.  I don't really want to intall anything on my internal one right now and I guess on an external one it doesn't make sense.

     

    Edit: can't hear them at all on light load if that's any help.

  • di1in Calculating status...
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    Nov 6, 2011 7:14 AM (in response to Csound1)

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    di1in wrote:

    I get 5:51 while running Chrome (too many tabs to switcto safari), Mail app minimized, half dim, active Bluetooth DUN and bluetooth USB mouse. Hi-res screen and i7 processor. OS is 10.7.2. Graphics is discrete.

    Then you need to actually test the estimate, because it is only an estimate. At the moment you do not know how long your battery life is, only what the estimate thinks it is.

    The actual battery life is 5:10. I think it improved after updating to 10.7.2.

  • di1in Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 7:16 AM (in response to Csound1)

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    di1in wrote:

     

    I get 5:51 while running Chrome (too many tabs to switcto safari), Mail app minimized, half dim, active Bluetooth DUN and bluetooth USB mouse. Hi-res screen and i7 processor. OS is 10.7.2. And graphics is discrete.

    Then you need to actually test the estimate, because it is only an estimate. At the moment you do not know how long your battery life is, only what the estimate thinks it is.

    I got 5:10 on the test with gfxswitcher on dynamic, the update to 10.7.2 has made a difference.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,320 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 7:18 AM (in response to di1in)

    You got 5:10 actually or is this a changed estimate?

  • di1in Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 7:33 AM (in response to Csound1)

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    You got 5:10 actually or is this a changed estimate?

    Actual 5:10, the estimate changed by a huge margin every minute - it's useless.

  • Rayced Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 7:40 AM (in response to di1in)

    di1in wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    di1in wrote:

     

    I get 5:51 while running Chrome (too many tabs to switcto safari), Mail app minimized, half dim, active Bluetooth DUN and bluetooth USB mouse. Hi-res screen and i7 processor. OS is 10.7.2. And graphics is discrete.

    Then you need to actually test the estimate, because it is only an estimate. At the moment you do not know how long your battery life is, only what the estimate thinks it is.

    I got 5:10 on the test with gfxswitcher on dynamic, the update to 10.7.2 has made a difference.

     

    Have you been using Chrome still to browse? Probably with Safari you can achieve something better cause it won't launch any flash content.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,320 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 7:48 AM (in response to di1in)

    di1in wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    You got 5:10 actually or is this a changed estimate?

    Actual 5:10, the estimate changed by a huge margin every minute - it's useless.

    Yup, the estimate is not accurate, but 5:10 is a reasonable time,

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