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Duplicate Libraries in iphoto and Aperture

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pamela6644 Calculating status...
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Nov 6, 2011 7:04 PM

I am reading the book Aperture 3 portable genius and it states that if you copy your iphoto library to aperture you double the amount of hard drive space used but one of the cool features of this is that any change you make to an image in aperture is reflected in the iphoto library (Page 52).  I am not seeing the changes that I made in aperture refected in iphoto.  Is there some setting I need to change to make this happen?

Aperture 3, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
  • Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (121,755 points)
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    Nov 7, 2011 4:59 AM (in response to pamela6644)
    but one of the cool features of this is that any change you make to an image in aperture is reflected in the iphoto library

     

    That's simply untrue.

     

    The only way to get edits from Aperture to iPhoto is to use either:

     

    In iPhoto the 'Show Aperture Library' command. Then drag the images from the media browser to the iPhoto Window. This gets your Aperture Previews only

     

    Or

     

    Export from Aperture to the Finder. Then import to iPhoto.

  • Mr Endo Level 3 Level 3 (990 points)
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    Nov 7, 2011 11:12 AM (in response to pamela6644)

    Pamela,

    Please note that iPhoto and Aperture fill mostly the same niche.  You should choose one or the other, not both.  They are not designed to be used together.

     

    it states that if you copy your iphoto library to aperture you double the amount of hard drive space used

    Just remember that once you decide to forge ahead with Aperture and you are certain you have imported all your pictures into Aperture, you can delete your iPhoto library and reclaim the space that the files were taking in iPhoto.

     

    nathan

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,570 points)
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    Nov 9, 2011 8:40 PM (in response to pamela6644)

    The book "Aperture 3 Portable Genius" is not a good resource, imho, and should not be used to learn Aperture.

    pamela6644 wrote:

     

    I am reading the book Aperture 3 portable genius and it states that if you copy your iphoto library to aperture you double the amount of hard drive space used but one of the cool features of this is that any change you make to an image in aperture is reflected in the iphoto library (Page 52).  I am not seeing the changes that I made in aperture reflected in iphoto.  Is there some setting I need to change to make this happen?

    As much as the book presents information in a way that would only confuse someone not familiar with Aperture, it does not, in fact, claim that "any change you make to an image in aperture is reflected in the iphoto library".  What it says on p. 52 is "You can also use your Aperture Library within iPhoto". What is meant by this misleading statement is explained on the following page:  "You can browse through your Aperture Library and chose the images to import into iPhoto".

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,570 points)
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    Nov 10, 2011 6:51 PM (in response to pamela6644)
    • Start with my concise guide to what you should know as you get going with Aperture.  It's a very brief "naming of the parts".
    • Watch the videos that come with Aperture: "Aperture→Help→Welcome to Aperture".
    • Read through the first seven chapters of the User Manual:  "Aperture→Help→ Aperture Help".  Also available on-line.  Keep it handy -- it's useful.  Note the glossary.
    • Work through the tutorials that ship with Aperture:  "Aperture→Help→Exploring Aperture".  (and PDF).  These were accompanied by a sample Library when the software was purchased in a box.  You might find the sample Library available on-line, but if not, just create your own sample Library and follow along.
    • Work through the longer, broader, and more in-depth tutorials in Dion Scoppettuolo's  "Aperture 3". This is the book used by the staff of the Apple Stores.  It is excellent preparation for Apple's Aperture 3 Professional certification (and pretty good at teaching you how to make the most of Aperture).
    • Ask questions at Apple's Aperture user-to-user support site (i.e.: right here).  The participants are friendly, helpful, skilled, patient, and generous  .

     

    All are excellent resources.

     

    If I may add some icing to that cake, in the form of un-asked-for advice:

    The best way to learn software is to use it.  Keep a list (long at first) of questions as they occur to you.  Answer them one at a time.  Create a sample Library and try things outTwice.  Import _copies_ of 500 photos into a "learning Library", and try everything.  Then try it a different way.  There is a lot to learn:  Aperture is powerful, very smartly designed, and (it must be said) complex.  Give it time, too.  Imho, it's time worth spending -- I use it every day, and few days end without my having been yet again pleasantly surprised to learn something new that it handles with a deftness bordering on grace.

     

    Keep us posted on how you're doing.

     

    Message was edited by: Kirby Krieger -- trouble formatting after the editor ate all my work  :-|

  • ednsb Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Nov 11, 2011 1:53 PM (in response to pamela6644)

    a bit of confusion on what you did. You copied all of your iphoto images to Aperture 3? If I am right that would make your library in Aperture 3 masters. Could you have used the iPhoto images as the masters and and referenced images in Aperture 3?

     

    Is that possible and if so what are the upsides and downsides.

     

    I ask this because I have been playing around with Aperture 3 for six months trying to decide if I really want it to be my image content management program. I have 30,000 images in iphoto which I have connected to Aperture 3 yet but I am getting close to do that. In one big way I would love to keep my masters in iphoto on my prime drive and my aperature library on an external drive. The primary reason for that is I have my prime drive backed up to the cloud (so all of my iphoto images are backed up 3 ways (time machine, external clone drive and cloud). But my ISP has now instigated limits on monthly upload and downloads so I probably  can't do that again. If I leave everything in iPhoto I can back up  Aperture 3 to the cloud for the referenced images.

     

    any ideas? does this make sense?

  • Blayne187 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 31, 2012 5:18 AM (in response to pamela6644)

    I, like Pamela, simply imported my IPhoto Library into Aperture. Do I now have 2 libraries and If I do how do I get rid of the I Photo one? The thought of deleting a library sends chills up my spine even though I have a gazillion backups.

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,540 points)
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    May 31, 2012 5:30 AM (in response to Blayne187)

    Blayne,

     

    Do I now have 2 libraries and If I do how do I get rid of the I Photo one?

     

    If you imported the iPhoto Library into your Aperture Library you have two libraries.

    But how to get rid of the iPhoto Library will depend on how exactly you imported into Aperture. If the iPhoto Library and the Aperture Library share the master image files, you cannot simply delete the iPhoto Library. You will have to relocate the master image files into your Aperture Library first.

     

    Why not start an own thread, so that you can explain further how you imported to Aperture, what your Aperture and iPhoto versions are, where your libraries are located (internal volume, external volume), etc.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

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