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  • 3dmac Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Nov 8, 2011 8:46 PM (in response to rogerfromfrance)

    rogerfromfrance wrote:

     

    after reading many posts in this thread, I acquired an opinion which is that those who obtained the replacement of their iphone4S are satisfied with their new device when all their efforts to improve the battery time were not really successful.


    I also noticed one thing:

    the ratio standby time/use time is at least equal  to 2 on  defectives

    device while it's much higher on those whose owners are satisfied  ("3dmac" shows

    screen capture 23 hours standby 1hour used ! )

    I fear the solution is to replace the unit hoping to get a good one....


    Here is my current stat:                                           yesterday's stat:

     

    IMG_0040.PNGIMG_0037.PNG

    iPhone 4S, iOS 5, 2 in the family
  • Syamilo Calculating status...
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    Nov 8, 2011 9:09 PM (in response to Scarface.)

    I think i've found a fix! Its the apps that is causing the problem. Some of your apps might not be compatible with ios 5 so they will cause most of the battery drain. Some ppl might have larger drain than others due to them having more apps that are draining the battery.So my suggestion is to first try to delete the apps and reinstall them one by one to see which one works well with ios 5. Just install the apps that u need for the time being until apple have the fix. I had the same problem with u on the iphone 4S and deleted some of the apps and it works perfectly now! Initially had a battery drain of about 5% an hour on standby. Now it works normal as before, with like 1% drop per 2 hours standby. Try it!

  • 1AppleADayNoWay Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 8, 2011 9:12 PM (in response to JCG02)

    JCG02 wrote:

     

    [...] this is just my experience with messing around with settings to figure this battery issue out.

     


    https://discussions.apple.com/message/16672234/edit

     

    Figuring out your posting issues might also prove a challenge!!!

  • 1AppleADayNoWay Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 8, 2011 9:19 PM (in response to Syamilo)

    Surely has an impact as this ACMT advised against Twitter for the time being. On the other hand, some people have had major battery drains with a restore to new+factory reset and no app.

     

    Issues vectors are:

     

    -Restore

    -Malformed data and sync, especially for mail

    -Some apps

    -3G stress, either from low coverage, excessive polling from apps/notifications, or some other things

    -Illogical reliance on battery indicator/usage stats, misunderstanding of what is included in usage vs standby, inappropriate recharging over the computer and simply poor procedural logic in testing

    -Unrealistic expectations or understanding or ignorance of the fact that this is a 6hrs 3G internet device

    -To top it off, there might be also some faulty devices in their own right

     

    Good luck!

  • 1AppleADayNoWay Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 8, 2011 9:28 PM (in response to miless)

    miless wrote:

     

    1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

     

    Soon ARMv8 will be upon us [...]

    Even on ARMv7 Cortex A15 ... Windows8 should be able to run on it (if MS port the OS over to ARM,.. which Intel will strongly protest), albeit on 32bit.

     

    Mac OS X will only be able to run on ARMv8 since its a 64 bit OS. And i believe they would merge iOS with OS X, to become iOSX. Open source?,... not in the life time of Tim, Phil, Scott, Jony, Eddy and the current board.

     

    But ARM technology is slowly but surely encrouching into the territory of the desktop.

     

    Well, if a board is not up to the challenge of the modern world, they can be replaced, as after all they should serve the interest of the company and not be about their little faith in the past. But I see your point. Time will tell I guess. Their mobile OS will just become useless and their R&D must have already paid off big time, seeing the price they charge compared to the bill of materials in their devices. I can't see why they would port that "little" code into their flagship OS, but then again, I don't know so much... because it's closed source lollll. Maybe they swap OSX with IOS and keep OSX boot logo or something lolll.

  • 3dmac Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Nov 8, 2011 10:05 PM (in response to Syamilo)

    Like any new OS there will be Uncompatable APP's that need updating by the maker (OS 10.7 : no PPC unicode Apps, WIN VISTA AHHHHH : all new drivers and most printer/hardware need updating)

     

    SO I STRONGLY suggest that everyone un-install ALL addon APP's and Hard reboot (Hold home and power button till apple screen flashes 2 times then let go) Phone will boot fresh.

     

    Then monitor settings and battery usage.

     

    Mahalo

  • KaBar6 Calculating status...
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    Nov 8, 2011 10:07 PM (in response to Scarface.)

    Bwhahaha, all these complaints still. I was able to squeeze out 10 hours of usage today. All I did was follow the first suggestions by turning off some notifications and that silly time zone setting. Oh, and also draining the battery completely then full recharge. No complaints here. Hope everyone has fun playing Apple Tech to try and figure this out hahaha.

     

    All you people are doing is making a big deal out of nothing.

  • iRF7 Calculating status...
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    Nov 8, 2011 10:07 PM (in response to 3dmac)

    something is not right here. If I do something wrong at work, I have to pay for it, Im loosing customer, it cost me reputation and money. Apple is not even responding or admitting it.

    Now, after spending $850 for the device, which cannot survive 1 day of regular use, I have to sit down, waste my time, look for solutions on the internet, turn off most of the features I paid for, uninstall applications, which BTW was approved by apple in the first place, to make $850 device working as it should?  Maybe another "solution" will be to turn it off to make sure battery at the end of the day will have still some power?

    Thats not right.  this is not how QC at Apple should work - they should test their devices before giving it to customers or they should sell it for $50 instead of $850. The similar issue was with iphone 4 with the antennas. WHY?

    Now it doesnt seem like Aplle is any better than Microsoft or any other company. I have to admit, however, that they have excellent marketing strategy and people. I.e. they market icloud where it was available for android and blackberry, iphones way before Apple "reinvented" it and integrated with their os - or rather market it really well.

    I am very disappointed with iphones, especially at that high premium price where they have all bell and whistles but the basic features like battery life, phone calls or emails have issues and not working as it should.

    Very disappointed.

  • miless Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Nov 8, 2011 10:15 PM (in response to 1AppleADayNoWay)

    1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

     

    miless wrote:

     

    1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

     

    Soon ARMv8 will be upon us [...]

    Even on ARMv7 Cortex A15 ... Windows8 should be able to run on it (if MS port the OS over to ARM,.. which Intel will strongly protest), albeit on 32bit.

     

    Mac OS X will only be able to run on ARMv8 since its a 64 bit OS. And i believe they would merge iOS with OS X, to become iOSX. Open source?,... not in the life time of Tim, Phil, Scott, Jony, Eddy and the current board.

     

    But ARM technology is slowly but surely encrouching into the territory of the desktop.

     

    Well, if a board is not up to the challenge of the modern world, they can be replaced, as after all they should serve the interest of the company and not be about their little faith in the past. But I see your point. Time will tell I guess. Their mobile OS will just become useless and their R&D must have already paid off big time, seeing the price they charge compared to the bill of materials in their devices. I can't see why they would port that "little" code into their flagship OS, but then again, I don't know so much... because it's closed source lollll. Maybe they swap OSX with IOS and keep OSX boot logo or something lolll.

    iOS is already running part of OS X.

    If you idea of the modern world is open, then why do we have so much economic problem after globalization? Does WTO really help increase the living standard of the poorer nation or made the rich richer?

    Sometimes close can be better than open if open is so corrupt.

     

    Which mobile OS will not become useless over time? Look at WinMo6, Symbian, and what have you...

  • miless Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Nov 8, 2011 10:20 PM (in response to iRF7)

    One way to dispell the disappointment... bring it back and get your money back.

  • 1AppleADayNoWay Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 8, 2011 10:40 PM (in response to miless)

    miless wrote:

     

    1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

     

    miless wrote:

     

    1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

     

    Soon ARMv8 will be upon us [...]

    Even on ARMv7 Cortex A15 ... [...½

    Open source?,... not in the life time of Tim, Phil, Scott, Jony, Eddy and the current board.

     

    But ARM technology is slowly but surely encrouching into the territory of the desktop.

     

    Well, if a board is not up to the challenge of the modern world, they can be replaced, [...]I can't see why they would port that "little" code into their flagship OS, but then again, I don't know so much... because it's closed source lollll. [...]

    iOS is already running part of OS X.

    If you idea of the modern world is open, then why do we have so much economic problem after globalization? Does WTO really help increase the living standard of the poorer nation or made the rich richer?

    Sometimes close can be better than open if open is so corrupt.

     

    Which mobile OS will not become useless over time? Look at WinMo6, Symbian, and what have you...

     

    Your argument is pure sophism there, with respect. Globalization cannot in any way be compared to open source, if only in a metaphorical way. Open source is the sharing of intellectual wealth and allowing everyone's contribution to a development process, whereas globalization is just a legal and market framework to tone down local barriers to trade, it is just a consequence of communication and mobility. Even if those two concepts could be compared, globalization still has some benefits for many workers in emerging economies - but more progress needs to be made in terms of their working conditions and the impacts of a fast paced industrialization to accomodate western countries. It is not black or white. But the rich get richer - always. And corruption is a side effet of having humans run the show, whatever the regime or system. This has nothing to do with trade. You must look at your own country for not enforcing a proper tax and fiscal scheme, and allowing different types of shelters - countries are sovereign in that respect - and always keep the right in leash because it is the enemy of proper taxation, information and of everything sustainable. Closed just means people deciding for you what's best. It's hit or miss.

     

    But yeah, time will undo what's hot. We may not see now what will be in a few years down the road. For instance what's truly going happen with the tablet market.

  • 1AppleADayNoWay Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 8, 2011 11:02 PM (in response to KaBar6)

    A bit lame. "I solved my problem so it no longer exists hahaha". I mean people complain because Apple didn't properly market the product or didn't manage the user base expectations properly. If all those settings are silly as you put it, then Apple should have disabled them by default in the factory. Apple markets itself as a business that delivers something that works out of the box without any need to tweak and they failed here in that respect for some users.

     

    Their 5.0.1 beta is 800mb so surely it only pushes a Time zone config and slightly trims down some notifications.

  • firsttimeiphone4suser Calculating status...
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    Nov 8, 2011 11:07 PM (in response to Scarface.)

    Until Apple comes up with a fix, I seem to have found a temporary solution.

     

    I installed Battery Doctor Pro on my iphone 4s, reset the device and did a trickle charge. From afternoon 1pm to 10pm, my battery charge dropped from 100% to 82% with a medium usage of checking my 2 exchange accounts regularly fetching data every 30mins, calendar and reminders, some calls, some texting and wifi on all the time.

     

    Overnight, from 10pm to 7am again with wifi on all the time and the fetching, the charge dropped from 82% to 72%.

     

    let me know if this works for any of you as well...

     

    waiting for the 5.0.1 release!

  • StephanGenevaCH Calculating status...
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    Nov 8, 2011 11:52 PM (in response to miless)

    miless wrote:

     

    StephanGenevaCH wrote:

     

    1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

     

    Thank you. One last question: was this in the same geographical location and using the same carrier for both phones?


    Yes. Same carrier, same SIM, same place where I put the phone at night, same environment at work. But totally different stories when it comes to battery life so far. I will re introduce email now (Corporate Exchange servers) but won't set it to push but on-demand. Let's see how this works after a day.....

    Do this

    Go to Settings>General>Reset>Reset Network Settings

    Go to Settings>Location Services>System Services ... turn off all except traffic and cell network search.

    Then switch off your phone... and switch on again.

    Drain your battery till 0%. Then charge it up to 100% and leave it charge continuously for at least 5 hours.

     

    Report back here after 2 days and tell us how your phone perform.

     

    by the way, its 11 deg C (52F) now in Geneva... and battery drains fast in low temperature. you know that.


    Did that yesterday 15 hours after initial full charge of my brand new 4S (exchanged at Apple Store). I also set my corporate email account on 4S with messages being picked up manually, 3G being ON at all times (where network permits). WIFI was also enabled for both home and work place networks.

     

    It's been 40 hours now since the full charge and battery still shows 55%! Differencies between today's phone and initial are as follows

    • Disabled SIM PIN on Day One which was initially set to ON on phone 1 but disabled subsequently leading to slight improvements only. I don't like it as this is a security threat but I always believed that this was the cause for the battery dying overnight in less than 9 hours. For info the place I leave has weak mobile phone network. But having done this I do not get my battery flat overnight..... And I have enabled code lock on the 4S because of my corporate email
    • Installed Battery Doctor Pro and System Status. Don't think any of these are the real reasons for the dramatic change but this won't hurt and I am now able to see what the phone's doing
    • Paid extreme attention to phone settings and did not assume that settings were what I thought they were but checked each and every option instead. Why things such as Compass Calibration, iAds, ... come set to ON by default is a mystery to me as I am a believer that positive actions should be required for every setup, not the opposite

     

    As you can see some extremely noticeable improvements since 4S # 1, but still not the 4S I would like with Siri and some other features being switched ON. I will look at this after I fully discharge the battery from its initial 100% load, recharge it and keep it plugged for another 5 hours and then see what happens keeping current settings untouched. So another few days wait given current battery performance but I won't complain at all. And I still wonder whether there are both hardware and software issues with the 4S.

     

    Heaven can wait but I am getting closer to it every minute!!!  

  • miless Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Nov 9, 2011 12:16 AM (in response to StephanGenevaCH)

    StephanGenevaCH wrote:

     

    miless wrote:

     

    StephanGenevaCH wrote:

     

    1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

     

    Thank you. One last question: was this in the same geographical location and using the same carrier for both phones?


    Yes. Same carrier, same SIM, same place where I put the phone at night, same environment at work. But totally different stories when it comes to battery life so far. I will re introduce email now (Corporate Exchange servers) but won't set it to push but on-demand. Let's see how this works after a day.....

    Do this

    Go to Settings>General>Reset>Reset Network Settings

    Go to Settings>Location Services>System Services ... turn off all except traffic and cell network search.

    Then switch off your phone... and switch on again.

    Drain your battery till 0%. Then charge it up to 100% and leave it charge continuously for at least 5 hours.

     

    Report back here after 2 days and tell us how your phone perform.

     

    by the way, its 11 deg C (52F) now in Geneva... and battery drains fast in low temperature. you know that.


    Did that yesterday 15 hours after initial full charge of my brand new 4S (exchanged at Apple Store). I also set my corporate email account on 4S with messages being picked up manually, 3G being ON at all times (where network permits). WIFI was also enabled for both home and work place networks.

     

    It's been 40 hours now since the full charge and battery still shows 55%! Differencies between today's phone and initial are as follows

    • Disabled SIM PIN on Day One which was initially set to ON on phone 1 but disabled subsequently leading to slight improvements only. I don't like it as this is a security threat but I always believed that this was the cause for the battery dying overnight in less than 9 hours. For info the place I leave has weak mobile phone network. But having done this I do not get my battery flat overnight..... And I have enabled code lock on the 4S because of my corporate email
    • Installed Battery Doctor Pro and System Status. Don't think any of these are the real reasons for the dramatic change but this won't hurt and I am now able to see what the phone's doing
    • Paid extreme attention to phone settings and did not assume that settings were what I thought they were but checked each and every option instead. Why things such as Compass Calibration, iAds, ... come set to ON by default is a mystery to me as I am a believer that positive actions should be required for every setup, not the opposite

     

    As you can see some extremely noticeable improvements since 4S # 1, but still not the 4S I would like with Siri and some other features being switched ON. I will look at this after I fully discharge the battery from its initial 100% load, recharge it and keep it plugged for another 5 hours and then see what happens keeping current settings untouched. So another few days wait given current battery performance but I won't complain at all. And I still wonder whether there are both hardware and software issues with the 4S.

     

    Heaven can wait but I am getting closer to it every minute!!!  

    Félicitations!

    I am glad it solves your problem. It solved mine and i now am able to use the whole day and still 30-40% left when i go to sleep.

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