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Oct 22, 2011 9:49 AM in response to Tardigradaby Eclipsethegalaxy,The increased noise is negligable. Honest. Still far less noise than a PC. But as the Kext fixes have only worked for some, I thought perhaps there was another underlying issue. Why would the NVIDIA cards have the same freezing issues. As well, I checked into Kext file fixes for NVIDIA cards and was unable to obtain info from any online source. Anyway I'll stay out of the way and let you Radeon people have at it.
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Oct 22, 2011 11:04 AM in response to Simon Bakerby Spokes78,I have the same machine as you Simon Baker. I did the kext fix under 10.6.7 and have been afraid to update because my machine has been running flawlessly. There's a lot of mixed problems on this discussion that don't seem to specifically apply to the random freeze. Anyway, with iCloud here, Lion is in my future.
I recently changed to 64-bit.
Can I download Lion and not worry? Do I download Lion and then use the kext fix again?
There is mixed info on the discussion.
Thanks.
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Oct 22, 2011 4:17 PM in response to DazzaGby Simon Baker,I can only say what I have found with my machine, obviously! Had random freezes since 10.6.2, sometimes with a GPU debug dump under console, sometimes with machine still accessible over my nextwork - just a frozen screen - and mouse and keyboard, I think (difficult to check!). 10.6.2 kext has worked under Snow Leopard and Lion 10.7.1. (fans also improved matters prior to the kext fix). Fully expected the same under 10.7.2 but no freeze for 10 days now using only the software update - no kext fix applied. Normally after a software update it would freeze after 2 days, but with Lion 10.7 it was a lot sooner (couple of hours?) and the console has changed and I couldn't sopt the normal chatter or a GPU dump, but that just might be me not loooking properly.
Off on a break tomorrow so will shut down and reboot in a weeks time, so fingers crossed.
Hardware or software? Who knows? 2 days before a crash sounded a bit like a memory leak? And there seems to be firmware updates for most iMac models to fix screen freeze issues?
I also logged onto the developers site and registered a bug, attaching a couple of Console GPU dumps (for 10.6.3+, not 10.7) and had a reply to do a diagnostic check - my machine just reports a Harddrive overspeed fan,should be 1200rpm but it settles at about 1350 after 20 minutes or so. I can live with that.
In sum, my machine worked fine with the 10.6.2 kext fixes up to 10.7.1. Not needed to apply (yet…) for 10.7.2.
Best of luck.
Simon
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Oct 22, 2011 6:58 PM in response to Simon Bakerby Spokes78,Thanks a ton for the info. When I first installed 10.6.7, I didn't get a freeze for almost 2 weeks – then it went freeze nuts and I did the kext fix.
Please let me/us know if you have continued success with your machine.
Spokes
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Oct 23, 2011 7:59 AM in response to Simon Bakerby Pagaille,Simon, as I said I don't have the freeze problem anymore since some releases of Snow and Lion.
I had to revert (succesfully) to the 10.6.2 kexts but they were upgraded by new revisions of SL and Lion and it didn't occured anymore. I'm certain that it was the same problem as the one described here : totally random, and I was able to compare with some picture taken by other users.
Am I the only one who had his problem (mysteriously) solved ?
My specs hereunder. Do I have the same EFI version ? Same SMC firmware ?
Informations matériel :
Nom du modèle: iMac
Identifiant du modèle: iMac8,1
Nom du processeur: Intel Core 2 Duo
Vitesse du processeur: 2,8 GHz
Nombre de processeurs: 1
Nombre total de cœurs: 2
Cache de niveau 2: 6 Mo
Mémoire: 4 Go
Vitesse du bus: 1,07 GHz
Version de la ROM de démarrage: IM81.00C1.B00
Version SMC (système): 1.30f1
Numéro de série (système): N/C
UUID du matériel: N/C
Vue d’ensemble du logiciel système :
Version du système: Mac OS X 10.7.2 (11C74)
Version du noyau: Darwin 11.2.0
Volume de démarrage: Lion
Mode de démarrage: Normal
Mémoire virtuelle sécurisée: activée
Noyau et extensions 64 bits: Oui
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro :
Jeu de composants: ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
Type: Processeur graphique (GPU)
Bus: PCIe
Longueur de la voie PCIe: x16
VRAM (totale): 256 Mo
Fournisseur: ATI (0x1002)
Identifiant du périphérique: 0x9583
Identifiant de révision: 0x0000
Révision de la ROM: 113-B2250L-259
Version du gestionnaire EFI: 01.00.259
Moniteurs:
ATI2600Controller :
Version: 7.12.9
Dernière modification: 24/06/11 08:22
Chaîne des informations: ATI2600Controller 7.12.9 10224
Type: Intel
Architectures: i386, x86_64
64 bits (Intel): Oui
Emplacement: /System/Library/Extensions/ATI2600Controller.kext
Version de kext: 7.1.2
Adresse de chargement: 0xffffff7f81851000
Valide: Oui
Authentique: Oui
Dépendances: Satisfaites
ATIFramebuffer :
Version: 7.12.9
Dernière modification: 24/06/11 08:16
Chaîne des informations: ATIFramebuffer 7.12.9 10224
Type: Intel
Architectures: i386, x86_64
64 bits (Intel): Oui
Emplacement: /System/Library/Extensions/ATIFramebuffer.kext
Version de kext: 7.1.2
Adresse de chargement: 0xffffff7f8183a000
Valide: Oui
Authentique: Oui
Dépendances: Satisfaites
ATIRadeonX2000 :
Version: 7.12.9
Dernière modification: 24/06/11 08:14
Chaîne des informations: ATIRadeonX2000 7.12.9 10224
Type: Intel
Architectures: i386, x86_64
64 bits (Intel): Oui
Emplacement: /System/Library/Extensions/ATIRadeonX2000.kext
Version de kext: 7.1.2
Adresse de chargement: 0xffffff7f8154c000
Valide: Oui
Authentique: Oui
Dépendances: Satisfaites
ATISupport :
Version: 7.12.9
Dernière modification: 24/06/11 08:17
Chaîne des informations: ATISupport 7.12.9 10224
Type: Intel
Architectures: i386, x86_64
64 bits (Intel): Oui
Emplacement: /System/Library/Extensions/ATISupport.kext
Version de kext: 7.1.2
Adresse de chargement: 0xffffff7f813c2000
Valide: Oui
Authentique: Oui
Dépendances: Satisfaites
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Oct 23, 2011 10:48 AM in response to DazzaGby drmacintosh1984,The best way to solve this issue is to update to OS X v10.6.8
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Oct 23, 2011 10:55 AM in response to drmacintosh1984by schleppy,That is absolutely NOT the best solution drmacintosh. The 7,1 iMac I support at work didn't start freezing until 10.6.8 was installed. The best solution (based on this thread) seems to be running the 10.6.2 drivers, or rolling back to 10.6.7.
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Oct 29, 2011 7:44 PM in response to schleppyby Colin Fox1,Just reverted my 8.1 iMac back to the 10.6.2 drivers again...
I installed 10.6.8 yesterday and the system was running hot once again with slow response times to applications...
I'll probably try out 10.7.2 in another few weeks...
Thankfully we have this option with the kext fix to keep our Mac's running...no thanks to Apple though...
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Nov 9, 2011 6:07 AM in response to swmasterby MDS Design,Hi swmaster, would you be willing to send me the 10.6.2 drivers for a 21" 2.0Ghz Core2Duo Intel iMac (7,1) using the ATI RadeonHD 2400 / 128MB. I see you posted that you have them. I would greatly appreciated it.
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Nov 9, 2011 6:23 AM in response to nekosaurby MDS Design,Hi Nekosaur - would you be willing to send me the 10.6.2 drivers for a 21" 2.0Ghz Core2Duo Intel iMac (7,1) using the ATI RadeonHD 2400 / 128MB Graphics card.
I think I might have just asked the wrong person for the. Sorry about that.
Just a little bit about what I'm experiencing....
imac 2 ghz intel core 2 duo here with the ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT 128 MB.
I was running snow leopard 10.6.2 with no problems whatsoever when I attempted to go to 10.6.3 it constantly froze. I gave up and went back to to 10.6.2. Not willing to deal with the headaches. Well, I got a new iphone 4s and upgraded both my laptop and my imac to Lion and the laptop is fine, but the freezes are back. I need to get this working and I'm hoping that the 10.6.2 Kext fix will do the trick. I really need the drivers because I wasn't smart enought to save them.
Thanks for you help.
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Nov 9, 2011 6:32 AM in response to MDS Designby MDS Design,I was able to grab the ATI Drivers from my Time Machine Backup. Didn't think about it, but I only upgraded to Lion 2 weeks ago so they were there and easy to grab.
So, now my question is how many of you out there have tried the Kext Fix with Lion 10.7.2 and have you had any problems?
I think I've seen two ways to do this but I want to know what works the best.
Thanks in advance.
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Nov 9, 2011 6:47 AM in response to MDS Designby nekosaur,Don't replace the Lion drivers on your model iMac.
You will get a kernel panic when booting if you do and you will have to reinstall the OS back to factory settings.
The 10.6.2 drivers for the 7,1 iMac are 32bit. Lion is 64bit native.
Sorry to say you are screwed. I'm in the same boat.
Either live with the freezes or buy a new iMac because Apple is not fixing this.
It's almost been 2 years since it first started and there has been no action to fix it. There isnt going to be.
I will be buying a new iMac next year and suffering until then.
Oh well. Not worth my energy anymore.
Two years of complaining and hoping is enough for me. On to better things!
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Nov 9, 2011 7:06 AM in response to nekosaurby MDS Design,Wow, that is a bummer. I can't understand why this would just be ignored by Apple. Seems like this is a very common problem.
I too am planning on upgrading to a new iMac early next year, but freezing 3 or 4 times a day when I'm in the middle of trying to get work done is a hard pill to swallow.
Very dissapointing, Apple. Very dissappointing.
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Nov 9, 2011 8:02 AM in response to Spokes78by MDS Design,Spokes78 wrote:
I have the same machine as you Simon Baker. I did the kext fix under 10.6.7 and have been afraid to update because my machine has been running flawlessly. There's a lot of mixed problems on this discussion that don't seem to specifically apply to the random freeze. Anyway, with iCloud here, Lion is in my future.
I recently changed to 64-bit.
Can I download Lion and not worry? Do I download Lion and then use the kext fix again?
There is mixed info on the discussion.
Thanks.
Just so you know, I upgraded to Lion and I'm getting freezes about 3 to 4 times a day. And, if you look at the last few posts, you'll see that the 10.6.2 drivers may not work with Lion.
Not sure what to do? I'd love to hear from other Lion users and what they are experiencing.
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Nov 9, 2011 9:00 AM in response to Luis A. Vizzottoby MDS Design,Luis A. Vizzotto wrote:
Hi Jaycee
Have been getting the freezes since 10.6.3. Now I have 10.7.1 - same problems, solved with the Kext fixes.
Here's my computer specs:
iMac 7.1
Graphics card: ATI 2400
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-B2250A-207
Hi Jaycee, what version of the Kext files are you using? That is the same card I have but freezing a ton in 10.7.2. See the message above about the 10.6.2 Kext files not working in Lion.
This is all so confusing. I just want my mac to stop freezing.