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  • 60. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    Ben Friedman1 Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Being impolite, rude, making snide remarks or launching personal attacks does not require any ranking - anyone can engage in it unfortunately. However, those posts can be reported and if they do violate the ToU, they are usually removed.                                                                                                                                                                          As Well They Should Be .....lest someone be deterred from posting out of fear of being insulted.

  • 61. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    MauiTechnoGeek Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    No, I didn't know that button existed.  The emails from Apple only say "

    You can change your email preferences in your Apple Support Communities Profile."

    Thanks much!  Apple ought to add a note about the button in its emails.

  • 62. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    babowa Level 7 Level 7 (23,295 points)
    As Well They Should Be .....lest someone be deterred from posting out of fear of being insulted.

     

    Well, even that (reporting) is up to any user with those priviledges who happens to read a particular post and/or is the addressee. Actually, I think leaving such a remark is sometimes a better idea: the hosts have enough to do already and it shows the core values of the poster. I do agree though if the post is "over the top" offensive, it should be reported.

     

    Since this thread has gone way OT from the original subject,  that'll be my last OT reply here.

  • 63. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    ajthegeek Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I agree. I think it was bad buisness for apple to remove rosetta support for lion. I mean, whos going to spend 30 bucks for lion when they cant use many, if not most, of there old applications? Lots of people are still making powerpc applications.

  • 64. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    Neil from Oz Level 2 Level 2 (170 points)

    ajthegeek wrote:

     

    I agree. I think it was bad buisness for apple to remove rosetta support for lion. I mean, whos going to spend 30 bucks for lion when they cant use many, if not most, of there old applications? Lots of people are still making powerpc applications.

    But they won't be selling many. Most PPC software is outdated, and with the speed of computer software updates these days, 6 years is a long time (since Intel became the benchmark) When I updated, I had only 3 PPC programs left, and I used to use a lot, but I had found alternatives, or updated, often for free. To those who still wish to make PPC applications, good luck. And I think 4 million downloads of Lion in the first 4 days pretty well blows your arguement out of the water. Look to replace you old programs. You may find it a very very cheap exercise and one that may bring you into 2011 with others.

     

    Good luck

  • 65. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (41,525 points)

    You stated; "Lots of people are still making powerpc applications."

     

    Why would anyone in their right mind still be writing applications for PowerPC? Apple dropped the PowerPC processor over six years ago. So really no one should be writing anything for the PowerPC any more.

     

    I think if you check this out you will discover that in fact the vast majority of the PowerPC code still be used is by people that are too cheap to upgrade to the newer version of code that is Intel complatable.

     

    I think Apple figured that out and saw that support for those cheapsakes wasn't worth it for them so they dropped support for the PowerPC.

     

    Why should they go out of their way to support someone who is so cheap they can replace code that is over six years old.

     

    Allan

  • 66. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    Ronda Wilson Level 8 Level 8 (40,690 points)

    Allan Eckert wrote:

     

    Why should they go out of their way to support someone who is so cheap they can replace code that is over six years old.

     

    Because of those members of the user base who want to use their legacy applications?

     

    That's where I am, and Apple has stuck me there.

  • 67. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    ajthegeek Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    It doesent matter if devolopers are making PPC apps or not. Thousands of buisnesses have spent hundreds of dollars on software for thier company, and now apple sudenlly stops supporting the architecture which it is based upon. Its unfair, however you look at it.

  • 68. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (41,525 points)

    Buisnesses get even less sympathy from me. I say any buiness that allows itself to become that entrenched with an old outdated technology deserves to fail.

     

    I know when I was working for IBM this question always came up where they said they didn't have the time to upgrade. My reply was so you have the time to fail then. They didn't like hearing that but by and large they came around and upgraded evenually. It was the only way they could survive.

     

    If your definition of 'suddenly' is five or six year which is how long Apple has been saying that PowerPC is going away then I hate to hear what you think long term is.

     

    Allan

  • 69. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    Tom in London Level 4 Level 4 (1,585 points)

    Wow- I look forward to reading "How I saved IBM" by Allan Eckert

     

     

  • 70. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    BeechSportBill Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Developers have had five years to update their software to the new architecture; software that old would likely be unstable, possibly insecure on a new OS, anyway.

     

    Well, Intuit/Quicken has sat on this 'discovery' so long, that their only product for Mac-Lion (Quicken Essentials for Mac) is a POS that should be REJECTED by anybody who has ever used a Quicken product.

  • 71. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,365 points)

    Ronda Wilson wrote:

     

    You are talking about two different versions of "AppleWorks."

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppleWorks

     

    AW files weren't compatible with anything in the business world.

     

    AppleWorks Word Processing files are compatible with Word (and can even be saved as Word files).

     

    I use the Draw and Paint modules extensively (Pages is no substitute), and I have some databases that won't convert to anything else.

     

    I need the reporting capabilities of Quicken. These capabilities are not available in Quicken Essentials for Mac (which is an Intel app). Unless/until reporting capabilities appear, I can't upgrade(?) to Quicken Essentials (and Lion). I've been doing our complicated income taxes with Quicken since 1994. How anxious do you suppose I am to try to find something that works as well? There are at least a dozen financial software packages for evaluation. How anxious do you suppose I am to wade into those waters to find something suitable to our situation and learn what I'm doing in them in order to evaluate their suitability, when Quicken "just works"?

     

    As far as solitaire, the solitaire game I like (Eight Off) is not easily dealt out with a deck of cards(!), but I'm absolutely open to suggestions for other solitaire applications. If you've ever played Eric's Ultimate, though, you will know that it comes with an attitude not likely to be shared with other solitaire applications.

     

    An example of the multiple pieces of advice you receive at the end of each game:

    Don't just do something — stand there.

     

    I've thought this through quite extensively, as you can tell. It's why I bought my MacBook Pro when I did -- to have the latest, greatest that would still run the applications I need (and want) to run.

    Forgive me but you seem to be saying that progress should be at your whim, that others should wait around until Intuit figure out how to make their programs compatible with OSX (a process they have already had several years to deal with and chose not to)

     

    I abhor Intuits arrogant assumption that the Mac market is unimportant and am thus elated that they failed to be ready for this change, and am even more content that Apple chose not to pander to Intuit and others who choose not to update out of laziness, or carelessness.

  • 72. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    Ronda Wilson Level 8 Level 8 (40,690 points)

    I abhor Intuits arrogant assumption that the Mac market is unimportant and am thus elated that they failed to be ready for this change, and am even more content that Apple chose not to pander to Intuit and others who choose not to update out of laziness, or carelessness.

     

    I don't consider it lazy not to want to try to evaluate a dozen applications to attempt to replace what "just works" for me now. I simply have better ways to spend my time. Carelessness? I don't see how that applies to me. I have been very careful not to upgrade to a version of the OS which does not suit me at this particular time and careful to buy before I was trapped into an OS that won't work as well for me as Snow Leopard does.

     

    I will be happy if Intuit does eventually update Quicken, and I will probably buy it, but even that won't have me updating to Lion any time soon.

     

    http://www.tuaw.com/2011/12/22/intuit-to-deliver-quicken-update-for-lion-compati bility/

  • 73. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    Ronda Wilson Level 8 Level 8 (40,690 points)

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    Ronda Wilson wrote:

     

    I need the reporting capabilities of Quicken. These capabilities are not available in Quicken Essentials for Mac (which is an Intel app). Unless/until reporting capabilities appear, I can't upgrade(?) to Quicken Essentials (and Lion). I've been doing our complicated income taxes with Quicken since 1994. How anxious do you suppose I am to try to find something that works as well? There are at least a dozen financial software packages for evaluation. How anxious do you suppose I am to wade into those waters to find something suitable to our situation and learn what I'm doing in them in order to evaluate their suitability, when Quicken "just works"?

    Did you do any ranting with Intuit when they made it clear that your version of Quicken is the last version that they will ever produce for the Mac?

     

    http://www.tuaw.com/2011/12/22/intuit-to-deliver-quicken-update-for-lion-compati bility/

  • 74. Re: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?
    Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (41,525 points)

    I will not believe that until I see it. If the past experience with Intuit delivering on its promises is any indication, I am betting we will see it in the spring 2014.

     

    Allan

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