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Dec 4, 2011 1:06 PM

I'm hitting a problem I see reported elsewhere where the "Change disk" button in TimeMachine system preferences is not greyed out, but is inactive. This has occurred for me (after many years troublefree working) when disk-full struggles eventually prompted me to start over, reformating the same physical external firewire disk for use as a TimeMachine backup volume. Disk Utility reports no problems, correct Partition Map format (APM for a PowerPC iMac). I found and tried the bizarre disable BackToMyMac suggestion, repeatedly trashed TimeMachine and System Config system prefs + restarts with no joy. I know in Lion you can coerce some settings via Terminal using the new-to-Lion tmutil, but I'm not aware of any way of doing this in Leopard?

 

TIA

 

Rob

iMac, Mac OS X (10.5.8)
  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,670 points)
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    Dec 4, 2011 1:31 PM (in response to Percussor)

    If you turn TM off & choose Change Disk, what happens, any diff?

     

    Is this the pref file you trashed?

     

    /Library/Preferences/com.apple.TimeMachine.plist

     

    And did you do it from Safe Mode?

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,670 points)
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    Dec 5, 2011 9:48 AM (in response to Percussor)

    Safe Mode 1st of all attempts a Disk Directory repair, then clears several caches that may be corrupt, then disables several things that can interfere with settings/operations.

     

    Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when complete, test again.

     

    Mac OS X: What is Safe Boot, Safe Mode...

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1564

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,670 points)
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    Dec 6, 2011 12:46 PM (in response to Percussor)
    but the first time you click the change disk button there is a slight "hesitation" (the button stays "pressed" for a moment or two before "popping back up" without anything happening

    OK have Console Open in Applications>Utilities when you try it that first time & see if we get any clues, like maybe...

     

    12/6/11 Dec 06, 2011 12:42:05 PM [0x0-0xb6eb6e].com.apple.finder[7947] Unexpected reply from backup server - ignored

     

    To find out if it's system wide or user specific, try this...

    Open System Preferences>Accounts, unlock the lock, click on the little plus icon, make a new admin account, log out & into the new account.

    Does TM work in the new account?

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Dec 6, 2011 2:55 PM (in response to Percussor)
  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,670 points)
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    Dec 6, 2011 3:18 PM (in response to Pondini)

    Whew, great work... did you improve/polish your site even more lately?

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Dec 6, 2011 3:21 PM (in response to BDAqua)

    Not really -- but I do add / revise things when it seem appropriate.

     

    Major change was the move from MobileMe last month, but other than shortening some URLs, it's the same.

     

    Thanks for the compliment! 

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Dec 7, 2011 10:06 AM (in response to Percussor)

    Percussor wrote:

    Dec  7 17:26:25 Vygotksy Disk Utility[684]: Incompatible applications: app=com.apple.DiskUtility, targetApp=com.apple.Safari

    That doesn't look good. I don't recall seeing that message anywhere -- it sounds like Safari is not compatible with Disk Utilty, which seems odd enough, much less why DU is trying to do anything with/to Safari.

     

    What versions of those  do you have?  My G5 iMac running 10.5.8 has Safari 5.0.5 (5533.21.1) and Disk Utility 11.1 (252.4).

     

    Dec  7 17:27:37 Vygotksy dotmacsyncclient[699]: PROPFIND /Library/Application Support/SyncServices/Clients/9CADF747-F710-46C6-8ACB-508D5837EBD0.client (FAILED), httpStatusCode:508, errorType:100, transactionState:5, txnId:E1D0841B-FDB1-4A4C-A21E-C388AB8EFE1B, auto-retries=0, manual-retries=0

    Dec  7 17:27:37 Vygotksy dotmacsyncclient[699]: PROPFIND /Library/Application Support/SyncServices/Clients/9CADF747-F710-46C6-8ACB-508D5837EBD0.client (FAILED), httpStatusCode:508, errorType:100, transactionState:5, txnId:F4895280-C084-4AAF-95B8-9F4F2A2A6FD2, auto-retries=0, manual-retries=0

    Dec  7 17:27:39 Vygotksy com.apple.launchd[531] ([0x0-0x61061].dotmacsyncclient[699]): Exited with exit code: 156

    Something to do with SyncServices . . .

     

    Dec  7 17:29:07 Vygotksy System Preferences[722]: Incompatible applications: app=com.apple.systempreferences, targetApp=com.apple.Safari

    Dec  7 17:29:26 Vygotksy System Preferences[722]: *** -[NSCFString substringFromIndex:]: Range or index out of bounds

    Now System Prefs is incompatible with Safari?

     

    Have you had any other sorts of trouble?  If so, what?

     

    If you haven't, try verifying your internal HD, just to be sure the directories, etc., are ok.

     

    If nobody else has a clue, considering the messages about Apple apps, it looks like your installation of OSX and/or those apps might be compromised.  You might want to install the 10.5.8 "combo" update, per Installing the ''combo'' update and/or Reinstalling OSX.  If that doesn't help, reinstalling OSX would be worth a try.

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,670 points)
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    Dec 7, 2011 2:08 PM (in response to Percussor)

    Could be many things, we should start with this...

     

    "Try Disk Utility

     

    1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.

    2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu at top of the screen. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)

    *Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*

    3. Click the First Aid tab.

    4. Select your Mac OS X volume.

    5. Click Repair Disk, (not Repair Permissions). Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."

     

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214

     

    Then try a Safe Boot, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when it completes.

     

    (Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive.)

     

    If perchance you can't find your install Disc, at least try it from the Safe Boot part onward.

     

    Reset Launch Services...

     

    http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/resetlaunchservices.html#Anchor-Reset-47857

     

    Reboot.

     

    If all the above fails, then it appears to be time for a relatively painless Archive & Install, which gives you a new/old OS, but can preserve all your files, pics, music, settings, etc., as long as you have plenty of free disk space and no Disk corruption, and is relatively quick & painless...

     

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120

     

    Just be sure to select Preserve Users & Settings.

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,670 points)
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    Jan 23, 2012 1:34 PM (in response to Percussor)

    With the Passwords missing after A&I & such, I think the Corruption is deeper than in the OS, A&I should correct that by replacing important OS components, so it's something that wasn't replaced.

     

    Only way I can see out of this is to say do a Fresh Install, maybe on another drive, set up the Same users on it as the internal & in the same order, then see what important data we can transfer over.

     

    Tough, it's possible doing the 10.5.8 Combo & all other updates might take care of this latest error.

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