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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by Davidiblackman,

    Davidiblackman Davidiblackman Dec 5, 2011 1:09 PM in response to drStrangeP0rk
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    Dec 5, 2011 1:09 PM in response to drStrangeP0rk

    SOrry folks but my problems persist even with updates to apps, and with push off and manual on.  Batter drain this morning from 84 to 67 percent in 21 minutes, and I was just on Twitter. ONCE AGAIN MY COMMENT WHERE IS APPLE? WHY ARE THEY SO SILENT???

  • by Pichu21,

    Pichu21 Pichu21 Dec 5, 2011 1:46 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Dec 5, 2011 1:46 PM in response to Scarface.

    I read in some Google article that iOS 5.1 was coming out today. Where is it?? Anyone gotten the update? My iTunes doesnt show it.

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Dec 5, 2011 2:15 PM in response to darobman
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    Dec 5, 2011 2:15 PM in response to darobman

    darobman wrote:

     

    I find it interesting that the number of new posts on this topic is dwindling.

    [...]

    I have two push accounts and I can easily end the day with 70% battery life.  Overnight, I usually see a drop of 4%.

     

    I also want to mention for what it's worth [...]

    Well, that is to be expected. It's the Holiday season, people are out shopping/closing the year/student - exams etc. This was overall very poorly managed in terms of support - some individual efforts have to be commended, many people trying to help. The issue existed and still exists, as evidenced locally by this group of European users - a carrier specific or a batch hardware related problem maybe - but many of the root causes are being ironed out simply because of the nature of things - time passes and apps are updated, and carriers do things we'll never know, and charge cycles go on, and sanity ends up prevailing randomly, things get burned in, the cloud is being tweaked - maybe the data on it sanitized differently since the problem began etc.

     

    First there was a lack of education about the usage spec itself, and even the concept of "usage" remains somewhat misunderstood amongst users. Even though the call/internet spec was slightly better than the "4", the standby time spec of the 4s should have clued people that this was a more energy hungry/feature packed phone with the same battery. Yet it was marketed as a huge improvement while the active internet usage trend skyrocketed. This was all compounded with some users' restores lacking sanity and also app bugging under iOS5 - I think 3dmac explained it quite well. Secondly, best practices for the phone owner are not well known i.e. charge cycles, reset, mail fetch, killing apps - it takes more than a obscure web page to make users knowledgeable about this. Those battery documents must be present on the phone and must pop-up upon first use. Thirdly there was a poor choice of factory settings i.e. aggressive... I mean automated timezone and tons of automation. I mean come on, a bit of "feature economy" would have helped - the user can select his city even with the most minimal of intelligence. Even some technology choice made by Apple complicated the issue, i.e. the absence of 3G toggle, the incapacity to properly police network access of apps i.e. individual settings. Fourthly, the forum is a terribly poor tool for managing relevant information and Apple didn't have what it takes to make a proper knowledge base document, to the point that someone like me, who doesn't own the phone and honestly doesn't like Apple very much, had to give it a shot. Thank me if the number of posts are dwindling lolll. The sheer length of the threads become a disincentive in the end. Nobody wants to read that. Further, Apple Geniuses offered varying responses to support, there was no coherence - ok, they may be polite and nice but they needed a KB article too. Fifth, fanboys don't help - with unrealistic usage stats that create anxiety and anal-retentiveness within the user base i.e. if he can last that long, so should I. I mean, look at you, you state you go though a day with your phone and have 70% left, and 3dmac goes 2-3-4 days. But you always forget to properly qualify your usage. Well, you guys are the type of guys that use your phones to make 30mins of calls a day, check a bit of mail and one web page. I'm sorry but even with the best scenario, this is not a phone-little-computer-replacement-magic you bring to the cottage on the weekend and you entertain your friends with streaming youtube for 2 days and playing games and fetching 80+ mail a days and updating FB/Twitter at the same time on a single charge. Sorry but it is not. As a pretty lifestyle gadget with emergency to medium-low-rare usage it can last 2 days. Plus little samples of your family, your 3 friends, or a small business debugging 5 phones, well, for what it's worth it's simply worth nothing, fringing on the anecdote. No offence. I don't think that the problem was necessarily plaguing a huge percentage of the phones, but implementing some methodology in the support and having better tools would have made the posts "dwindle" a long time ago. This could have been toned down within 50 000 hits. It was just some order prevailing within chaos through inertia or gravity, sedimentation through time. You guys shouldn't delude yourself about what happened here. Many users' perception of the product could have been salvaged if this had been done differently... Instead I suspect many accepted to have less than they bargained for in relation to the marketing simply because they love Apple. They accepted a "smartphone with a restricted active feature set" concept. They deserved the whole shebang. Anyways...

  • by FernandoR,

    FernandoR FernandoR Dec 5, 2011 2:52 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Dec 5, 2011 2:52 PM in response to Scarface.

    I guess this is the post-jobs era. Jobs was loyal to the consumer; with his passing, I would assume we do not have the value we did as consumers. The new apple seems to simply sweep problems under the rug. We will eventually get tired of posting and surely dwindle away with our defective devices.

  • by darobman,

    darobman darobman Dec 5, 2011 2:56 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay
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    Dec 5, 2011 2:56 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay

    1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

     

    Well, that is to be expected. It's the Holiday season, people are out shopping/closing the year/student - exams etc....

     

    Or maybe they were just put off by the repeated posts from someone who never will own the product he/she is commenting on. 

     

    Just a few words of unsolicited advise.  If you want to reach more people with your "message", try making your point in fewer words.  Even I might start reading them again.  loll!

  • by IM16,

    IM16 IM16 Dec 5, 2011 3:07 PM in response to FiniteAffinity
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    Dec 5, 2011 3:07 PM in response to FiniteAffinity

    I no longer have a problem either (got a replacement with a serial starting with C3 serial) but checked back and my old phone that had problems was also a DN serial... interesting. Anyone want to post some more serial beginnings to confirm this? My battery's normal now, but I'm just checking this thread out to see developments and such out of curiosity.

  • by darobman,

    darobman darobman Dec 5, 2011 3:10 PM in response to IM16
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    Dec 5, 2011 3:10 PM in response to IM16

    My phone is a DN and never had an issue.

  • by FernandoR,

    FernandoR FernandoR Dec 5, 2011 3:13 PM in response to IM16
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    Dec 5, 2011 3:13 PM in response to IM16

    My phone is a C3 and I have the issue. Today after 7 hours on standby and three of use I'm at 4%

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Dec 5, 2011 5:14 PM in response to darobman
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    Dec 5, 2011 5:14 PM in response to darobman

    darobman wrote:

    Or maybe they were just put off by the repeated posts from someone who never will own the product he/she is commenting on. 

     

    I've heard that one before lolll. My words are like fanboy-repellent, it breaks their heart, yet don't affect normal people seeking support and they'll just be "tl;dr" and they'll move on. I've had a rocky start with quite a few intelligent people here, yet they came back. The ones who didn't come back improved the forum by doing so.

     

     

    Just a few words of unsolicited advise.  If you want to reach more people with your "message", try making your point in fewer words.  Even I might start reading them again.  loll!

     

     

    I have no issue with your advice, but I guess I'm not cutting a single word out then lolll. But seriously no, I'm not of that school, I accept it and I'd rather not reach out a significant portion of the audience - I'm not making movies in Hollywood. My stuff is always rated R and rarely ends with salvation. The world is complex and words are there to render its complexity, although I would agree with the idea that clear thoughts could be evoked concisely and clearly. What I lack in eloquence I make for with depth. To each his own I guess lolll.

  • by Axer_Colombo,

    Axer_Colombo Axer_Colombo Dec 5, 2011 5:26 PM in response to Davidiblackman
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    Dec 5, 2011 5:26 PM in response to Davidiblackman

    Previously, my Usage and Standby times were exactly the same. And the battery was draining 10% per hour, no matter whether I used the 4S or not.

     

    So I deciced to stay away from the iCoud stuff and disable my iCould account on the phone. And plugged the phone to iTunes to do a restore. Remember, I switched off the iCloud stuff before I did the restore.

     

    I let iTunes download the 813MB 5.0.1 SW update rather than using the 55MB update over the phone. After the download the phone was restored and I disabled Location services and iCloud services.

     

    So far the battery is holding up pretty well, 2hrs 40 mnts Usage, 19hrs 30 mnts Standby; 60% battery still left.

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Dec 5, 2011 5:48 PM in response to Axer_Colombo
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    Dec 5, 2011 5:48 PM in response to Axer_Colombo

    Axer_Colombo wrote:

     

    [...]

    I let iTunes download the 813MB 5.0.1 SW update rather than using the 55MB update over the phone. After the download the phone was restored and I disabled Location services and iCloud services.

    [...]

    A long time ago I had said that I have never seen someone who reinstalled the 800MB full release not have improvements...

     

    @darobman - take a look at what someone who will never have the device he's commenting on put up, here : https://discussions.apple.com/message/16850561#16850561 as opposed to many of the fanboys I've seen here could do best, which is not help despite having had all the devices Apple ever built... lolll.

  • by Dominictech,

    Dominictech Dominictech Dec 5, 2011 5:56 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay
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    Dec 5, 2011 5:56 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay

    I notice if i delete my Yahoo email account from my iphone everything is good.  I get almost 2 days Battery!!!  If I   add my Yahoo account back my Battery life is like 2-3 hours!!!    How many people have YAHOO on their IPHONE????  MAYBE IT HAS TO DO WITH THE WAY YAHOO IS INTERFACED TO OUR PHONES???

  • by LauraMackie,

    LauraMackie LauraMackie Dec 5, 2011 6:56 PM in response to IM16
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    Dec 5, 2011 6:56 PM in response to IM16

    I got a replacement too a couple weeks ago and am a happy camper now.  My serial also starts with C3.

  • by GF7PE,

    GF7PE GF7PE Dec 5, 2011 7:03 PM in response to Dominictech
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    Dec 5, 2011 7:03 PM in response to Dominictech

    I have been having more than just battery issues and went to two different apple stores and was told to hang tight for a new update.  They both did a load test on the battery and said it was in spec.  But... it still drains faster than my 3gs by alot.  For example.... today I had it in an iphone 4 dock on my desk until I left work and it was at 100% since then I received one text message used the fox news app for about 45 minutes on wifi at my daughters gymanstics class and received one call that I didnt answer.  I have 3 mail accounts on push (same as 3gs) one of which is Yahoo.  Location services off except on weather and maps and the screen at 25% bright ness and the battery is at 35%.  The only app multi tasking is mail and the usage which i dont quite understand says Usage 4 hours / standby 6 hours 40.  It seems to me that something might be running that I cant see.

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Dec 5, 2011 7:20 PM in response to GF7PE
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    Dec 5, 2011 7:20 PM in response to GF7PE

    GF7PE wrote:

     

    [...]The only app multi tasking is mail and the usage which i dont quite understand says Usage 4 hours / standby 6 hours 40.  It seems to me that something might be running that I cant see.

    Push mail can be inappropriate under weak or changing network conditions - why not put push to off and try fetch set at 30 or 60 minutes or manual and see what gives. "Usage" includes background processing such as auto-checking of email... many hours of usage on standby is indicative that of processing such as mail or some apps polling maybe. It shouldn't be more than a few mins per hour, depeding on setup.

     

    Good luck.

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