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744 Views 13 Replies Latest reply: Feb 8, 2012 7:09 AM by Michigan One Fly RSS
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Dec 7, 2011 7:27 AM

I use Aperture for stills and FCP X for video.  When I want to add a still to a project in FCP X I use the photo browser.  It appears that only the master is available. 

 

I have Preview Preferences set to share "Always" and the size set to match closely match monitor resoultion of 2560.  Quality is 11 if I recall.

 

I shot video with a flat picture style and the still from that canera are also flat, so they always need some post adjustments.  For the stills  I like to use Aperture, although the more I use FCP X,  the more I like the color correction there.

 

Is there something I am overlooking, or is that just the way it is?

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,760 points)
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    Dec 7, 2011 10:17 AM (in response to Michigan One Fly)

    What makes you think you are getting the master and not the version?

  • Mr Endo Calculating status...
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    Dec 7, 2011 12:44 PM (in response to Michigan One Fly)

    MI 1,

     

    1.  I don't have multiple choices for the image.

    Are you implying you have made a second version from your master, in which your first version is identical to your master within Aperture?   If not, you will always just see the one thumbnail (I.e., just one version), as the first version of your master is the one you play with.

     

    2. The crop in the 2 versions isn't there.

    So you have two photos in which you applied a crop in Aperture?  Have you exited Aperture to see if there is a difference when the library is closed?

     

    nathan

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,760 points)
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    Dec 7, 2011 2:05 PM (in response to Michigan One Fly)

    Doesn;t sound like you are doing anything wrong and the media browser (which is what I assuming FCP X uses to get the Aperture images) should show all versions of an image.

     

    You're Aperture terminology is a bit off. In Aperture all you ever see are versions unless you specifically ask to see the master and the media browser isn;t able to access the masters. So in this case you described you have two versions, one that Aperture created when you imported the image and the second one you created via some command (new version from master or duplicate version).

     

    So when you say you changed the version name of thw master it sounds like you renamed the  first version that Aperture created.

     

    One thing to try open another iLife program , mail is a good choice. Now create a new message and in the upper right hand comer of the mail message you'll see the icon for the media browser. Open it and look at the Aperture library. Do you see both versions of the image?

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,760 points)
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    Dec 7, 2011 6:30 PM (in response to Michigan One Fly)

    You're recapitulation of your problem got me to thinking. Even though you've found a work around somthing still isn't right because  the second version should be in the media browser.

     

     

    So this statment kicked my brain:

    So if I uncheck this box, and only create another version when I want a comparison or some such thing,  then my version and the resulting preview, will be the image that I want to use.

    The second version wouldn't be in the media browser if it didn't have a preview.  So if you select the project icon in the Library tab of the Inspector and then click the gear icon like so:

     

    Screen shot 2011-12-07 at 21.12.45.png

     

    Is the Maintain Previews For All Projects checked?

     

    Also in your preferences:

    Screen shot 2011-12-07 at 21.20.30.png

    What is the state of the New projects automatically generate previews checkbox?

     

    Finally to force Aperture to generate a preview for a version right click the version and select Update Preview.

     

    Note when you do this you need to restart the program looking into the Aperture library via the media browser in order to update the media browser. So in this example you would need to restart mail.

    iMac Intel 3.06 GHz 8GB Mem; Macbook5.1 2.4ghz 4GB Mem, Mac OS X (10.6.8), Aperture 3.2.1
  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,760 points)
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    Dec 8, 2011 10:14 AM (in response to Michigan One Fly)

    I really thought we had got this one, the previews is the only thing that makes sense; why one version would show up in the media browser and the other wouldn't. oh well

     

    Starting with the steps in Aperture 3: Troubleshooting Basics couldn't hurt.  In your last post you said you closed Aperture and opened mail, Mail was actually closed and not just sitting open in the dock correct? Have you rebooted the machine since this started? If not that would be something to try.

     

    Another troubleshooting step would be to make a new empty Aperture library, import an image into it duplicate the version So now you have two versions of the image and try the media browser to see if you see both images. (BTW the media browser will always show the images in the last open library, so if you have multiple libraries only the images from the last opened who will be seen).

     

    If that fails you should make a new user log in as that user run Aperture with a new library import an image do as above and see what happens.

     

    These steps will help track down if the problem is particular to your environment or if it is system wide.

     

    good luck

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,760 points)
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    Dec 8, 2011 10:46 AM (in response to Michigan One Fly)

    Ok good to know it at least will work corectlly on your system given the right comditions. Post back when you want to look into this some more.

     

    regards

  • RHManic Calculating status...
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    Feb 8, 2012 5:45 AM (in response to Michigan One Fly)

    Not sure if this will help or not but:  I was updating a version in Aperture by cropping it.  I noted that FCP X was not updated in my media browser and initially thought it was something to do with the preview.  I then noted a check mark over my original version that I had duplicated in order to conduct the crop.  I realized that the two versions were "stacked".  After extracting the new "cropped" version from the stack, it showed up in my FCP X media browser.  Just another thing to try. 

     

    regards

     

    Ian

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