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From all these posts maybe I should wait to install Lion?

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Dec 19, 2011 6:09 PM

I canceled my Lion install moments age after reading the posts on the app page about issues folks were having with Lion. Then logged onto here and can't believe how many people are having issues with Lion.

 

Is it worth it to install now or wait?

 

Thanks for any thoughts.

Macbook Pro
  • shldr2thewheel Level 7 Level 7 (25,345 points)

    I have no problems with Lion.  Millions of satisfied users.  Alot of people blame problems that they are experiencing on a new operting system, just because it seems like that is "what it must be".  I would install it if you really want it and could benefit from the features it has.  If you don't think you'll utilize any of the new features, stay with the o/s you are on.

  • TheSmokeMonster Level 4 Level 4 (3,240 points)

    if their issues are your issues then I would wait. but what do you seem to have given you pause specifically? we could let you know if that was an isolated incident that was fixed in a later build or what to look out for if you have applications that you still want support for.

     

    This is similar to when any new OS comes out. The issues get fixed over time. Waiting is always an option.

  • Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,535 points)

    ..Then logged onto here and can't believe how many people are having issues with Lion...

    To paraphrase others that have answered here, this place is like a hospital emergency room: only sick people post here.  So you'll only see problems, and no "all is fine, no problems for me" from the millions of other people that Lion is working perfectly well for them.

    ..Is it worth it to install now or wait?

    Since you've already canceled the install, take a look at some other threads on what to do before upgrading.  For example, Lion does not include Rosetta so make sure you don't have any older PowerPC (PPC) apps and if you do, upgrade them first.  And backup your data, if you haven't already done so.

     

    Me personally, I've been using Lion on a 2008 MBP with 4GB of RAM.  Many of the people with Lion issues only had 2GB of RAM, not realizing that Lion uses a bit more RAM than Snow Leopard.  So do some homework first, post again if you have more specific questions, then likely you'll be fine.

  • shldr2thewheel Level 7 Level 7 (25,345 points)

    May I also say that I have been using Lion since the day it was released july 20th of this year-no problems.

  • lcgn Calculating status...

    I have 4 macs. Installed Lion. Was beside myself with all the speed and issues with program stability. Things as simple as iPhoto and Finder hang up frequently. Mail can't even auto-fill addresses as I type them in. THe little thinking wheel just spins forever. NEVER had issues like that with SL.

     

    Had 4 gig of ram and found that most of it was used up with Lion. Upgraded to 12 gig. Lots of free ram. Programs still constantly have issues.

     

    Reset PRAM. Verified and repaired all. Ran great for half a day. All problems are back. Lion has ruined one of my Macs. Leaving SL on the others.

     

    Lion is to OSX as Vista is to Windows as far as I can tell!

     

    I'm thinking of reformatting the Lion Mac and installing Win XP just for spite. Ha.

     

    Good luck with Lion folks. Wish I could easily get SL back.

  • mulligans missus Level 2 Level 2 (370 points)

    lcgn wrote:

     

    I have 4 macs. Installed Lion. Was beside myself with all the speed and issues with program stability. Things as simple as iPhoto and Finder hang up frequently. Mail can't even auto-fill addresses as I type them in. THe little thinking wheel just spins forever. NEVER had issues like that with SL.

     

    Had 4 gig of ram and found that most of it was used up with Lion. Upgraded to 12 gig. Lots of free ram. Programs still constantly have issues.

     

    Reset PRAM. Verified and repaired all. Ran great for half a day. All problems are back. Lion has ruined one of my Macs. Leaving SL on the others.

     

    Lion is to OSX as Vista is to Windows as far as I can tell!

     

    I'm thinking of reformatting the Lion Mac and installing Win XP just for spite. Ha.

     

     

    Yet I have not had one problem like this, and yet only running 3GB RAM. No anti-virus rubbish of out of date plug-ins etc. So not a hiccup. Personally have already forgotten about Snow Leopard.

     

    Give it a go when you are ready. It will only keep improving.

  • Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (121,630 points)

    Roll back to when 10.6 was released, then 10.5, then 10.4 and so on. You'll see the same sorts of posts. Don't Upgrade! It'll ruin everything! Nothing works! All my Printers caught fire! My hard drive melted! It shot my dog! My girlfriend left me! My car broke down!  And of course the every popular "apple is becoming Microsoft" of which the "10.7 is Apple's Vista" is but the latest - and astonishingly original - incarnation.

     

    The truth is that every upgrade causes problems for someone somewhere. These problems can be caused by an unsuccessful installation, because the upgrade exposes a hitherto unknown known issue in someone's hardware, incompatible plugs-ins, add-ons and what nots, applications and drivers that need updating, and even by a faulty OS.

     

    The problem is that the folks who come along predicting doom when you upgrade often assume that the last one of those is the only possibility, not the least likely. Before you can blame the OS you have to first eliminate all the other possibilities.

     

    The fact is that the vast majority of people upgraded with no issues whatsoever.

     

    That said, you need to do some work before upgrading. Have a good back up - or two - ideally bootable so you can roll back if you do have issues. Make sure your preferred apps and 3rd party hardware will run on the new system - or that there are appropriate updates available for them, or replacements with an upgrade path if they won't.

     

    Regards

     

     

    TD

  • woodmeister50 Level 4 Level 4 (3,690 points)

    I have installed Lion on 4 Macs (2007 Macbook, early 2009

    iMac, 2010 MacMini, 2011 13" i7 Macbook Pro) and only

    had an issue with my Mini which was quicly resolved with an

    update.  They all work fine and most of the time faster than SL,

    but never slower.  Also, working with Lion on a 2011 Mini Server

    (came with Lion) and have had no issues.  I also note that this

    was the first time I had taken the upgrade path vs. clean install.

     

    As with any major upgrade of this nature, back up your current

    system.  Time Machine is okay but doing a clone of the system

    in this case is much better.  The clone allows you to boot to the

    external drive should something go bad with the install.  Also,

    it allows you a quick path to return to SL if you decide to do so.

     

    Also, make sure you upgrade all apps to the latest version

    and clean out any old "baggage" that you no longer use.

    More often than not, people with issues with Lion have some

    old app or plug in that has long been forgotten that loads itself

    and does not play well with Lion.

     

    Another thing, make sure the disk is in good shape that you are

    installing to.  Run Disk Repair and Repair Permissions (some

    will debate the usefulness of the second, but it won't hurt).  Also,

    if possible, run some software like Disk Warrior or such that can

    search for corrupted files.  If you really want to be cautious, also

    run some sort of software that can do a surface scan of the

    hard disk to identify and repair any bad blocks.

     

    The  bottom line in all this is make sure you have a machine

    that has no issues or problems before installing Lion.  If there

    are, Lion may or will only make those issues worse.

  • Cattus Thraex Level 4 Level 4 (1,715 points)

    There are no major issues with Lion. the most spread are:

    1. Older apps, which require PPC code, not supported in Lion; all those who still need such apps whould not upgrade for the time being until they are sure they have another, updated solution.

    2. Older apps, which start up upon logging in, they may affect system behavior.

     

    So, the first step is to check whether you favorite apps are updated to Lion. If yes, there is no reason to not update.

  • TheSmokeMonster Level 4 Level 4 (3,240 points)

    WoodMeister, have you tried reinstalling it? it sounds like it didn't insallt correctly the first time.

     

    reinstall

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718

  • Germany_chris Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    @icgn This is a very common response for people who don't try...

     

    I bounced back and fourth between the 2 since July..I don't like the heavy feeling of Lion in the end state it really isn't bad..I just want that nice tight, agile feeling of Snow Leopard back. 

  • TheSmokeMonster Level 4 Level 4 (3,240 points)

    invest in an SSD or hybrid drive of that nature if youu want your snap back

  • Cattus Thraex Level 4 Level 4 (1,715 points)

    Any, format it HFS+ and, if not already so, check partition map, it should be GUID (under Options, when you choose to format). You may boot from any external USB, firewiere (perhaps also thunderbolt) disk.

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