6 Replies Latest reply: Mar 14, 2013 9:06 PM by JSandefer
jendrikRS Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Since I joined iTunes Match, I  have trouble to add Audiobooks to my library.

 

Problem:

- By default, freshly imported audio files are tagged as "Music" and for audiobooks I then manually change them to "Audiobook".

- iTunes Match, however, tries to sync everything to the Cloud ASAP.

- If they are synced to iCloud/Match as "Music" before I change the type to "Audiobook", however, I can't change this tag any more. This field is greyed out then.

 

==> This messes up my iTunes library and the display on my iPhone.

 

Does anyone have an idea how to fix this?

 

If not:

@Apple: when can I expect a solution?

 

Thanks,

Jendrik


iPhone 4S, Windows 7
  • 1. Re: Adding new Audiobooks while using iTunes match becomes complicated.
    KeithJenner Level 4 Level 4 (1,020 points)

    I don't have this problem, as I haven't added any audiobooks, but my suggestion would be to use an App such as Subler (just do a google search to find the download).

     

    Subler edits the metadata. Once you have installed it, find your Audiobook file, before adding to to iTunes, right click and choose "open with.../subler".

     

    Then, under the Other Settings tag, change the media kind to Audiobook.

     

    When you then add it to iTunes, it should add it as an audiobook.

     

    Edit: I've just tested it with a song and it seems to work.

  • 2. Re: Adding new Audiobooks while using iTunes match becomes complicated.
    JiminMissouri Level 2 Level 2 (465 points)

    A couple of things come to mind.  First, if the problem is that iTunes Match is trying to match/upload items you want to alter in some way, you might consider turning iTunes match off while you add the audio books.  Second, while I'd prefer a simple toggle, turning off iTunes Match changes the basic view back back to what I was used to seeing before Match came along.  It's possible that the kind of changes you used to make still can be made, so long as Match is off.  Might give it a try anyway.

  • 3. Re: Adding new Audiobooks while using iTunes match becomes complicated.
    jendrikRS Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    JiminMissouri wrote:

     

    you might consider turning iTunes match off while you add the audio books.

     

    I am confident that this will be a good workaround until Apple has found and implemented a better solution.

     

    JiminMissouri wrote:

     

    Second, while I'd prefer a simple toggle, turning off iTunes Match changes the basic view back back to what I was used to seeing before Match came along.  It's possible that the kind of changes you used to make still can be made, so long as Match is off.  Might give it a try anyway.

     

    I will defenitely try this next time I add an audiobook. Thank you!

  • 4. Re: Adding new Audiobooks while using iTunes match becomes complicated.
    NorfolkUKApple Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    I have exactly the same problem and although turning off iTunes match is a workaround it is a nuisance doing so.

     

    Turning iTunes Match off once Match has got its tentacles into a file does allow one to change the media type to AudioBook but I've then found that iTunes match seems to change the media kind back again. (I think this happens because two files which I know I had changed to Audio Book disappeared from my books library and reappeared in my music library - and of course once they are there Match wants to upload them. I listen to a lot of audio books (more than I listen to music) and the file sizes are such that I don't want them uploading.

     

    Keith Jenner's helpful tip on Subler is extremely useful - I had not come across the package before and it's ability to make a change to the media kind to Audio Book worked perfectly, but as far as I can see Subler cannot handle MP3 files. I hasten to add this is not a criticism of Subler because it is clearly not written for this purpose it just happens to handle m4a files perfectly. So for some files that does the trick - I've tested it with half a dozen or so and with the media kind set to Audio Book the imported file goes straight into books and thus avoids Match trying to match it (which obviously it won't) and then trying to upload it (which I don't want it to do).

     

    My other workaround for this has been to stop using iTunes for audiobooks in MP3 format. Instead I use Goodreader which whilst it is primarily an awesome pdf reader also handles mp3 files. And by using the ability to copy files directly to the app it also bypasses lengthy synchronisation.

     

    But I would love to know if there is a piece of software out there which will allow one to change the media kind on an MP3 file in the same way that Subler does for an m4a file. I've tried a couple of the tagging packages but they don't achieve this.

  • 5. Re: Adding new Audiobooks while using iTunes match becomes complicated.
    bluecow14 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Turning iTunes Match off once Match has got its tentacles into a file does allow one to change the media type to AudioBook but I've then found that iTunes match seems to change the media kind back again.

     

    Understandably frustrating, I know, but you have a couple options.  iTunes match won't change the media kind back if it never knew what the media type was in the first place.  That would mean being signed out of iTunes match or being disconnected from the internet while you import an audiobook as well as while you change it's media kind, that way iTunes Match never new it was anything other than what you say it was.  If you are trying to change files that it has already decided are music, you'll need to copy the files outside of iTunes (I'd just drag them to a folder on the desktop), delete them from iTunes - you'll need to say "move to trash" when it asks you whether you want to remove the files from iTunes or delete them outright (otherwise they will stay in your iTunes media folder) then sign out of iTunes match or disconnect from the internet, reimport the files, change their media kind and then enable iTunes Match again or reconnect to the internet. 

     

    I know, it's a hassle but it's an option.  You'd only have to do it once for the existing mis-classified media and in the future it won't be as complicated for new material you import.  You'll have to disable iTunes Match or disconnect from the internet before you import the audiobook and change the media kind and then wait until after you've done those steps before allow your iTunes library to talk to iTunes Match again.  If you do that, you shouldn't have any issues going forward, but it's not ideal and Apple should address that.  People shouldn't have to go to such lengths. 

     

    There are a couple other options I can think of.  One would be to convert the MP3 files that are currently in need of media kind re-classification into m4a files and then you could use Subler as you've done for your files that are already m4a files - though I'm not familiar with Subler.  But if you've got a workflow using Subler that is working for m4a files...you just need to turn your mp3 audiobooks into m4a files.  And of course, there are multiple ways to do that.  There are free software programs out there that will convert them for you or you could do it directly in iTunes which would be the most efficient.  Converting them right in iTunes would be relatively quick and painless.  If you (or someone else out there) need instructions, post a response and let me know which part of all of this you need instructions for, if any. 

     

    The other option that comes to mind, if you're up to the task, would be to try to create a service, workflow, or App in Automator to do as much of this for you in bulk as possible - I don't know how well that would work and if it would be worth the trouble.  I haven't used it for anything of this nature, but it's been useful to me when I needed to make my own solutions on several occasions for other issues and tasks.  If you're handy with Automator or have wanted to try it out, then it's something to consider.  Again, not my recommended method and potentially a huge frustrating waste of time. 

     

    I know none of this is ideal, but until Apple officially fixes it, it's up to you to decide what you want to do in the meantime. 

     

    I hope that is helpful.

     

    Best Wishes,

    Kieran

     

    Message was edited by: bluecow14 Added sentence "Converting them right in iTunes would be relatively quick and painless."

  • 6. Re: Adding new Audiobooks while using iTunes match becomes complicated.
    JSandefer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This does not work at all. I have tried everything, including turning off iTunes Match, removing all audiobooks from iTunes, re-syncing iTunes match without audiobooks, turning iTunes match back off, adding audiobooks back in, then turning on iTunes Match. Everything is great until I have to restart iTunes, then the audiobooks are back under "Music."

     

    The problem is that although I can change the media type to audiobook after turning off iTunes Match, it still says "Music" next to media kind WHILE the audiobook is in the "Audiobooks" section. I can change it back to audiobook, but after it processes the file, it STILL says "Music."