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Q: Outlook 2011 for mac iCloud issues

THis is crazy

I have been using entorage and outlook for years now that i upgraded to Icloud no email or configuration will work.

I dont care for the mail app i have all my mail in outlook. tried all posted settings still does not work.

I wish i could roll back to me.com anyone able to get  settings to work in outlook 2011.

too many to list, Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Posted on Oct 14, 2011 7:11 AM

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  • by GlennG,

    GlennG GlennG Nov 30, 2011 5:03 AM in response to Julian Wright
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    Nov 30, 2011 5:03 AM in response to Julian Wright

    Besides, Outlook for Mac just came out in 2011. Prior to that it was Entourage for Mac. There is quite a defference.

  • by Averg,

    Averg Averg Dec 2, 2011 12:15 AM in response to bwmwh
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    Dec 2, 2011 12:15 AM in response to bwmwh

    I did the settings change and it worked flawlessly.  I am getting ICLOUD and HOTMAIL into my outlook. NO problems

  • by Averg,

    Averg Averg Dec 2, 2011 12:16 AM in response to NOT-MEE
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    Dec 2, 2011 12:16 AM in response to NOT-MEE

    My outlook is working flawlessly for now with Icloud and my my hotmail.

    I have tried several iterations to see if wont send, but it has passed all times.  Quite now that I dont have to use mail on my desktop - still have to keep it the IPAD though

  • by EmperorsBlackTurtleneck,

    EmperorsBlackTurtleneck EmperorsBlackTurtleneck Dec 2, 2011 5:46 AM in response to Averg
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    Dec 2, 2011 5:46 AM in response to Averg

    I will try the settings.  Some days I receive mail, others errors!  The real problem is that icloud and the OS upgrade that I was forced to buy to get same, really screwed up my contacts on mac.  Anyone have suggestions for that as well?

     

    Thanks,

  • by cm477,

    cm477 cm477 Dec 8, 2011 11:16 AM in response to NOT-MEE
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    Dec 8, 2011 11:16 AM in response to NOT-MEE

    I kept getting authentication errors for my .mac iCloud account in Oulook 2011 on my iMac i7 for the past few weeks (since late November 2011). However, Outlook 2011 on my MacBook Air worked perfectly, even though all the Outlook settings were exactly the same on both computers.

     

    I tried all the settings in this discussion group and many others, including Apple's official settings (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4864). I even called Microsoft, and they said I had to call Apple, since they were the source of the problem.

     

    What worked for me was simply changing my password for iCloud. My password was iCloud compliant to begin with, but changing it allowed Outlook 2011 to work on my iMac. I saw this suggestion from someone who said his iCloud password was not compliant with Apple's requirements. Hopefully this will help others still experiencing problems with their iCloud accounts and Outlook 2011.

  • by A. Rose,

    A. Rose A. Rose Dec 9, 2011 2:51 PM in response to Julian Wright
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    Dec 9, 2011 2:51 PM in response to Julian Wright

    Julian Wright wrote:

     

    I have used Outlook for years because it is superior!

     

    You're certainly entitled to your opinion. However, not everybody shares your view.

    ...and you are entitled to comment with your own opinion, even if it adds absolutely no value to the conversation. For that matter, so am I!

  • by AbsurdUpgrade,

    AbsurdUpgrade AbsurdUpgrade Dec 9, 2011 3:20 PM in response to Julian Wright
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    Dec 9, 2011 3:20 PM in response to Julian Wright

    Blah Blah Blah.  I was sure some Apple (*****) would freak out with any criticisim of the gods.  However, I did resolve my Outlook issue with the p01 tip (Thank you for that).  My ical and address are still screwed up after the conversion to icloud, but my email was the most critical. 

     

    See above for the helpful tip!  Thanks again!

  • by wurzelgrumpf,

    wurzelgrumpf wurzelgrumpf Dec 29, 2011 3:29 AM in response to NOT-MEE
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    Dec 29, 2011 3:29 AM in response to NOT-MEE

    I'll be trying this now as nothing described above would work for me:

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2648915/de

     

    It is in German but I'm sure it can be found in English as well.

    I'll let you know how it works.

     

    Just to complete the heated discussion here: I've chosen to use Outlook (previously Entouragte) prior to the advent of Mail. My whole mail history is here and I find what I'm looking for. I think that Apple is going the Microsoft-route by NOT making sure that a major share of their users will not be left in the rain with their day to day software PRIOR to pushing out new services. By all means: Microsoft has an office in Cupertino! I'm using Macs since 1984 for their simplicity but now, it seems, Apple is fighting a political fight with MS on the backs of their loyal users.

  • by Julian Wright,

    Julian Wright Julian Wright Dec 29, 2011 3:49 AM in response to wurzelgrumpf
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    Dec 29, 2011 3:49 AM in response to wurzelgrumpf

    English version of that Microsoft Support article is here:

     

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2648915/en

     

    I think that Apple is going the Microsoft-route by NOT making sure that a major share of their users will not be left in the rain with their day to day software PRIOR to pushing out new services.

     

    Apple is not responsible for Microsoft's lack of support for established, industry-standard, cross-platform sync protocols such as CardDAV and CalDAV that iCloud uses. They are not new protocols or anything proprietary that Apple has dreamt up.

     

    Why should Apple delay the rollout of new services/features for everyone just because Microsoft are dragging their feet not supporting industry standards?

     

    It was your choice to use Microsoft products which were never supported directly by Apple in MobileMe or iCloud, instead of the products MobileMe and iCloud have been advertised as working with.

  • by wurzelgrumpf,

    wurzelgrumpf wurzelgrumpf Dec 29, 2011 6:44 AM in response to Julian Wright
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    Dec 29, 2011 6:44 AM in response to Julian Wright

    Sorry, Julian. This is a game that nobody can win. Fingerpointing back and forth, argueing over what is standard, always blaming the other "side". This is geeky talk. I'm a user and I used to prefer Mac over WIN because it was usable... Why not simply think "client" rather than "I'm right"? How much could Apple win if they were including those who dare to make a decision using a software that is actually SOLD in the Apple store? (http://store.apple.com/us/search?find=microsoft+office+2011) rather than telling them "I'm right and you are wrong. Call Microsoft!"

     

    I've seen Apple almost going down the drain because they did not bother adhering to any standards but were arrogant enough to believe that they would set new standards. Which they did. At the end. I admit. But now they are playing games with me.

     

    I can highly recommend the book "How to drive your competition crazy" from Guy Kawasaki. Here, all is about client centric strategies.

     

    Bottom line: Use the Microsoft support article (Thanks, Julian, the English version: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2648915/en) and set up a new account. It works.

     

    cheers

  • by Julian Wright,

    Julian Wright Julian Wright Dec 29, 2011 3:12 PM in response to wurzelgrumpf
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    Dec 29, 2011 3:12 PM in response to wurzelgrumpf

    As I mentioned, the protocols iCloud uses are not 'Apple standards' - they are industry wide, open standards not 'owned' by anyone. In iCloud's case it is Apple who IS adhering to standards now (unlike before with MobileMe), and it is Microsoft who isn't. Look up CardDAV and CalDAV if you don't believe me.

     

    It is Microsoft who makes Microsoft Office - not Apple. Apple cannot make Microsoft's products compatible with industry standards - only Microsoft can do that.

     

    The Microsoft Support article only tells you how to setup email (using another industry wide, open protocol that Apple adhere's to called IMAP). It does not let you sync contacts and calendars and Microsoft even admits in that very support article that THEIR product is not compatible with CardDAV and CalDAV.

  • by AbsurdUpgrade,

    AbsurdUpgrade AbsurdUpgrade Dec 29, 2011 4:29 PM in response to wurzelgrumpf
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    Dec 29, 2011 4:29 PM in response to wurzelgrumpf

    I agree 100%.  I have used both extensively, and honestly, if you are looking for business productivity - Microsoft offers more.  It seems as though Apple has fallen into an arrogant space.  I own iphones, ipods, ipad, mac, etc. etc.  I no longer buy any music from Apple, and I don't use Mail. 

     

    It is astonishing to me how people blindly follow Apple (anything)!!!! 

  • by Julian Wright,

    Julian Wright Julian Wright Dec 30, 2011 1:00 AM in response to AbsurdUpgrade
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    Dec 30, 2011 1:00 AM in response to AbsurdUpgrade

    It's astonishing to me how people think Apple can change Microsoft's products, and refuse to accept even Microsoft's own admission that it is Office that does not support CardDAV and CalDAV.

     

    Do you not understand? Can't you read Microsoft's own support article, or are you just blind to Microsoft's faults?

     

    Apple does not make Microsoft Office. Apple did not make MobileMe compatible with Office - Microsoft did by adding support for Apple's proprietary SyncServices protocol. If Microsoft wants Office to be iCloud compatible, then it is Microsoft who has to add CardDAV and CalDAV support. No-one else can do it.

     

    Apple have finally done away with their own proprietary sync protocols used in MobileMe and have started using established, cross-platform, industry-standard, and open sync protocols. Doing so means iCloud customers can potentially use any CardDAV and CalDAV compatible sync client on any platform.

     

    Microsoft Office is also not compatible with any other online calendar system which uses CalDAV, such as Google or Yahoo calendars.

     

    Microsoft have chosen only to support their own, proprietary Exchange sync system in Office. However, Apple has added Exchange support to Apple's Mail and iCal applications. So, in fact, Apple's applications support more sync protocols than Microsoft's. Why aren't you complaining to Microsoft?

     

    Only supporting your own proprietary sync protocol is what's arrogant. Supporting both industry standard, cross-platform protocols plus competitors proprietary sync protocols is the exact opposite.

  • by AbsurdUpgrade,

    AbsurdUpgrade AbsurdUpgrade Dec 30, 2011 5:49 AM in response to Julian Wright
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    Dec 30, 2011 5:49 AM in response to Julian Wright

    I don't LIKE Microsoft.  I just like Mail, and ICal LESS!  In fact, I think the Palm OS did a better job with the sync capability, Group features and business applications.

     

    We will never agree, so let's just respectfully disagree.

     

    Happy New Year!

  • by Kimberlyfromil,

    Kimberlyfromil Kimberlyfromil Jan 18, 2012 9:15 AM in response to AbsurdUpgrade
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    Jan 18, 2012 9:15 AM in response to AbsurdUpgrade

    I agree. Does anyone wonder why apple did not contact outlook since apple sells Outlook for Mac in their stores to make this compatible like it was with mobile me? The necessary footwork was dismissed by apple. I feel since they sell it and it worked with me.com then it should continue the same in iCloud!

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