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My tracks are playing before they start - how do I fix this?

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gkwilly Calculating status...
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Dec 16, 2011 10:34 AM

I'm encountering what looks like a bug in GarageBand '09. It's happened once before, but not with every project.

 

Basically, the audio for all of my tracks starts playing before the tracks actually start.  the audio is basically time-shifted about seven seconds before where it is visually. So like at the point I am in the image below, if I click play, I start hearing the audio from all 3 tracks about seven seconds before the red play indicator gets there...and the audio ends about seven seconds before the visual end of the track. I've quit and restarted, solo'd tracks, etc and nothing like that seems to help. Obviously this makes it a total pain to edit. Has anyone heard of this problem before?

 

Screen shot 2011-12-16 at 10.37.21 AM.png

GarageBand '09, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
  • Peter2011 Calculating status...

    I'm getting the same with Garageband 11 (6.0.4 on Lion)  No idea of a fix and yes it's an awful bug.

     

    More of the same from last year:  https://discussions.apple.com/message/10697211

     

    And another one from earlier this year: https://discussions.apple.com/message/15386084#15386084

     

    And another one: https://discussions.apple.com/message/13178353

     

    And another one: https://discussions.apple.com/message/11605819

     

    And another one: https://discussions.apple.com/message/10124715

     

    This looks like the same from 2007: https://discussions.apple.com/message/5615351

  • oz-macnut Calculating status...

    What's the sample-rate and bit-rate of the MP3 you dropped in? 44.1Khz, or less?

  • oz-macnut Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Update to Garageband '11 6.0.5

  • suzgems Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm having the same issue for the first time as well.  I had upgraded to Lion, then also dragged a new audio file onto a new track.

     

    Now, playback of the audio is about 2 seconds prior to the vision representation, and it's making it impossible to edit.

     

    I'd rather not upgrade if I don't have to, as I have had to upgrade so much software since going to Lion. It gets costly.

     

    please let me know if there is a fix.

  • Opperman Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Doesn't help. Same issues appear in the latest version, GB '11 6.0.5.

  • isteveus Level 5 Level 5 (4,125 points)

    Does this still happen if you turn on cycle region.

  • Opperman Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Yep. That has no affect on it.

  • oz-macnut Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Never experienced this one myself, and I have done quite a few years worth of "GB-ing."

     

    As a last resort, I would be doing a spot of maintenance on the mac you are working on, clearing caches and dumping some preferences to see if that clears the issue.

     

    I strongly suggest running all the Maintenance and Cleaning operations in Onyx: www.titanium.free.fr (I am not the author). Follow the instructions and warnings carefully. (I've never encountered any issues, but make sure you have a backup first).

     

    Also move your GB preferences to the Desktop (make sure to quit GB first):

    ~/Users/username/Library/Preferences/com.apple.garageband.cs

    ~/Users/username/Library/Preferences/com.apple.garageband.LSSharedFileList.plist

    ~/Users/username/Library/Preferences/com.apple.garageband.plist

     

    Make sure to manually re-enter your preferences within GB when finished.

     

    Do you have DiskWarrior 4? www.alsoft.com/diskwarrior/

    (Also, not the author!) I would suggest this disk maintenance should be part of everymac user's toolset. I have found some incorrect file encodings can cause issues.

     

    Repair your disk permissions: DiskUtility.

     

    Suggest doing a "Save As.." of your GB project to a new file too, in case there is some GB project corruption.

     

    Hope you get on top of this.

     

    - Oz

  • suzgems Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hey folks -

     

    This message is about a year old.

     

    It can rest now.

     

    All has been resolved.

     

    Thank you!

  • Opperman Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    suzgems wrote:

     

    Hey folks -

     

    This message is about a year old.

     

    It can rest now.

     

    All has been resolved.

     

    Thank you!

     

    Well, not for me it isn't. And not for a lot of people around the forums. I read no fewer than 8 threads reporting this same issue, none of them with solutions that did anything. It is an apparently ongoing issue with GB, and one that appears to have lingered for quite some time without Apple addressing it.

     

    I'm happy you found a solution, and wondering what that magical solution is. So if you'd like to share how you resolved it, your experience might help some of the rest of us. Otherwise, unsubscribe from the thread if you are inconvenienced by the email it generates.

  • Opperman Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    I wish I had your luck! I've now had this issue bite me in the butt about 6 times in 4 months (since I signed on to a GB-based workflow), and each one requires I chuck a 45+ minute audiobook chapter where I had spent hours editing out narrator re-starts, breaths, mispronunciations, mis-timings, etc. I generally have to re-edit in a new file from scratch. All non-billable time. So far the Save As... suggestion hasn't helped, nor has exporting tracks. What happens is the GB file will *sound* fine when you listen to it, but the visual waveform at top and bottom of the screen will be off by 1-4 seconds. When I export, the exported file follows the visual waveform, and sections where I've edited get clipped at the end. Usually, it truncates the very end of the chapter, too. 

     

    I am pretty good with maintenance on this production machine. I repair permissions regularly, don't run a lot of crapware, and allow Cocktail to run in Pilot mode on a weekly scheduled basis. I have plenty of RAM (8 GB) on a 2.4 GHz Intel Core i7 Macbook Pro. Should be able to handle just about anything, especially low bitrate mono spoken audio.

     

    There are plenty of other threads around the forum with this issue, and no one seems to have resolved it. One guy even seems to have done enough testing to think it's a bug in the software, but I can't vouch for that.

     

     

    oz-macnut wrote:

     

    Never experienced this one myself, and I have done quite a few years worth of "GB-ing."

     

    As a last resort, I would be doing a spot of maintenance on the mac you are working on, clearing caches and dumping some preferences to see if that clears the issue.

     

     

     

    Suggest doing a "Save As.." of your GB project to a new file too, in case there is some GB project corruption.

     

    Hope you get on top of this.

     

    - Oz

    MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.3), Late 2011 MacBook Pro 15", 8 GB RAM

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