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Windows 7 Backup in Boot Camp?

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Brumey Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Apr 27, 2011 2:47 PM

Hello:

I have a MBP with Windows 7 on a boot camp partition. I have tried to find a good solution to image or clone the Windows installation for fast restores but have come up short. Many suggestions, most flawed or untested.

 

The most recent was a suggestion to use the built-in Windows 7 backup which does create an image and data backup but does it work for Boot Camp? I not only need to know if it works for creating a backup/image but also if it would actually perform a sucessful restore?

 

An ideal solution would be an OS X app like SuperDuper or a A Windows app like acronis that can do the COMPLETE drive including boot camp.

 

I would like to hear from anyone who has successfully backed up and performed a full recovering to a Windows BC installation.

 

I know that some folks will say, just reinstall Windows but that is time consuming when you concider all the updates, apps and finally data restore.

 

To complicate matters, I have replaced my optical drive with another HD so the optical drive is now external via USB. This really complicated installing Windows in a BC partition (see other threads).

 

Thanks in advance for your suggestions and comments.

MBP 2.8ghz i7, 17" Hi-Res/AG, Mac OS X (10.6.7), SSD + 750gb WD Scorpio Black - 10 second boot
  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,535 points)
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    Apr 27, 2011 3:27 PM (in response to Brumey)

    Cloning Apps for Windows on Mac

     

    You should bite the bullet after making backups and try one or more as if you were writing a review.

     

    Acronis won't. It must support GPT (and EFI). I think the same for Ghost.

     

    One program for 'foreign' OS also means you are asking a lot, maybe a linux CD for instance.

     

    Not everyone has the same results too. Clonzilla works but some thought "oh, that is too complicated."

     

    Casper 6 works for Windows on Boot Camp only, and was the first commercial program. You just use SuperDuper for your HFS partition.

     

    You will need NTFS for your Windows clone.

     

    CopyCatX is more lengthy and sector copy so takes the longest.

     

    Paragon has come out with more programs to support Apple Boot Camp than anyone else, but I only use the one that I need and have not used it in the manner you want.

     

    Paragon Hard Disk Manager 2011 Suite

     

    blog.paragon-software.com

     

    Paragon Drive Copy Pro - Hard Disk Copy, Disk Cloning and System Migration

  • ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)
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    Apr 27, 2011 4:30 PM (in response to Brumey)

    Did you try WinClone?

     

    http://download.cnet.com/Winclone/3000-2242_4-172338.html

     

     

    Yes, it's looking like abandonware, perhaps the developer moved to a new site, but recent posted people find it works just fine, and it's still free.

     

     

    Carbon Copy Cloner is free for your OS X, HFS+ formatted partition.

     

    http://www.bombich.com/

     

     

    Good Luck

  • Ricks ricks@macgurus.com Level 6 Level 6 (11,515 points)
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    Apr 27, 2011 11:10 PM (in response to Brumey)

    My recent experience with using WinClone to restore a BootCamp drive is that the restore process is possible as long as the hardware isn't changed. Unfortunately, the process is also pretty involved:

     

    1) Format a new BootCamp drive.

     

    2) Install a fresh Windows install on it. Fresh install is the only option BootCamp has. If you stop BootCamp without go to install then the BootCamp drive does not get formatted. You will not have to apply any updates to this Windows install.

     

    3) Use Winclone to overwrite your nice fresh and clean Windows installation on your new BootCamp drive.

     

    4) You are now bootable to the Windows exactly as you left it.

     

     

    It works. But it is messy and has holes in the capability.


    Rick

  • AppNewbies Calculating status...
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    Nov 4, 2011 3:27 PM (in response to Ricks ricks@macgurus.com)

    That' exactly what I did, and I agreed with Rick that t is messy.

     

    What I did find out is that if the bootcamp is to be used under VMware Fusion, the restored Winclone bootcamp gave a BSOD indicating 0x74 error BAD_CONFIG_INfO...

     

    The Winclone works perfect for native bootcamp alone especially if you want to change bc partition size but It seems it breaks something that Fusion assumes.......

  • yemesret Calculating status...
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    Nov 6, 2011 7:42 AM (in response to Brumey)

    If you're talking about something like restoring Windows 7 to a time before you installed a specific program or something, then why don't you use the Windows 7 built-in System Restore program? It worked for me once when I installed Microsoft Office Professional Plus and had a problem with Outlook, and I didn't even have to create a backup image.

  • dalstott Level 4 Level 4 (2,445 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 10:06 AM (in response to Brumey)

    I looked at Paragon stuff last week but did not see a boot camp clone soluton. Did I miss something?

     

    Boot Camp is a partition on the HDD in which Windows is installed. It is Windows that you are backing up and in recovery it is placed back into the Boot Camp partition.

     

    For some more info I would suggest you go to the search area above and type this:

     

    paragon backup boot camp

     

    There has been a wealth of material posted regarding experiences with this software.

  • GeekBoy.from.Illinois Level 4 Level 4 (2,730 points)
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    Nov 6, 2011 7:00 PM (in response to Brumey)

    Well,  let me help you a little.  I bought my MacBook Pro late in 2007, and it is the only Mac I own.  Being a notebook computer, it only has one internal harddrive, so for me to have Boot Camp, I must have my MacOS and Widows partitions on the same drive.  FOr a couple years I was in a very similar position as you.

     

    Early on, I had great success using SuperDuper for my Mac volume, and WinClone for my WIndows volume.  I could probably still use that if I wanted to, but sine WinClone is no longer supported, I moved on.  For my Windows PC's I have been an Acronis True Image user for years (since version 6 I believe).  I tried it, and it wouldn't work on my MacBook Pro.

     

    Next, I tried the native Windows backup utility.  It worked to backup and restore my Windows partition, but I noticed a "bad" side effect.  When I would restore a Windows Backup to my HD, it would corrupt my MacOS boot partition, so I would then have to restore the Mac partition as well.

     

    I am one of the people who have had plenty of success using Clonezilla.  Maybe it is because I use the 32bit version even though I am runnign a Core 2 Duo processor, or it may be that I just happen to be technical enough that I understand what I am doing.  In any case, I have clones my internal 500GB HD onto an identicle drive in an external enclosure and then swapped teh physical drives and everything booted just fine.

     

    Most recently I have purchased the Paragon backup software for Windows, and I can boot from th recovery CD to make a full Windows system backup.  I havn't had the luxury of testing this retore yet, but I have little concern since the CD boot for backup had no probelms.

     

    I have been through many different iterations and I still prefer to use SuperDuper for backup up my Mac installation.  Since my MacOS has at least read access to my Boot Camp volume, I tend to use it to copy those few files I deem critical under Windows  onto an external drve so I can access them if I need.  While I still make system backps of my Wndows installation, I am more likel to re-build the windows partition and only recover the little "key data" I have.  I do keep clones of my MacOS installation though...

  • Mihai S. Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Nov 9, 2011 2:51 PM (in response to Brumey)

    You could try CrashPlan - It works on both Mac and Windows, and they have a free version meant for home use.

    http://www.crashplan.com/consumer/crashplan.html

  • Granite Apple Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Jan 30, 2012 7:46 AM (in response to Brumey)

    Brumey wrote:

     

    You could generally use Paragon CampTune 9.5 toaccomplish this task. The main purpose of this software is redistributing diskspace between Windows and Mac OS X partitions without having to delete yourWindows partition with all applications and data to do so. This tool integratesa built-in backup wizard though which would satisfy your needs. Furtherinformation about CampTune 9.5 can be found on the following product website: http://www.paragon-software.com/home/camptune/

     

    Wow, wish I saw this post last week - lost two days trying to accomplish this task with a variety of different tools I saw on a related post.   Giving this a try...

  • Granite Apple Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Jan 30, 2012 8:09 AM (in response to ds store)

    ds store wrote:

     

    Did you try WinClone?

     

    http://download.cnet.com/Winclone/3000-2242_4-172338.html

     

    May not work if you're on Lion.

     

    See https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3203923?start=0&tstart=0

  • Granite Apple Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Jan 30, 2012 8:11 AM (in response to yemesret)

    yemesret wrote:

     

    If you're talking about something like restoring Windows 7 to a time before you installed a specific program or something, then why don't you use the Windows 7 built-in System Restore program? It worked for me once when I installed Microsoft Office Professional Plus and had a problem with Outlook, and I didn't even have to create a backup image.

     

    Tried this - if you're backing up Windows 7 to change the bootcamp partition size, the windows image backup program will resize your windows partition back to its original size when you restore (even though OSX has allocated more space to bootcamp.

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