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Gary i Level 5 Level 5 (6,190 points)
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Jan 22, 2012 10:46 AM

Hello all. Being an indesign person I am very much used to importing text into various text 'boxes' and clicking a button to create a new text box to flow the text over from the previous box.

 

This to my mind would constitue the very minimum requirement for a programe such as iBooks Author, afterall I cannot see much point in writing whole stories from within the app, could some one tell me how to do it?

  • Epochmaker Level 2 Level 2 (150 points)
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    Jan 22, 2012 3:31 PM (in response to Gary i)

    Copy-Paste?

     

    Drag and Drop?

     

    Just how well those simplistic methods will work with 300,000 word documents will be interesting to see...

  • deivis_alice Calculating status...
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    Jan 23, 2012 1:54 AM (in response to Gary i)

    "If you add more content than can fit, new pages are added automatically and the content flows into them."

     

    Put your text in first page (overflowed) and add pages. It's works.

     

    Isn't Indesign. But body text can flow. 

     

    You can copy-paste from ID to Author as a PDF (image)

  • Epochmaker Level 2 Level 2 (150 points)
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    Jan 23, 2012 2:02 AM (in response to Gary i)

    I have to admit I haven't *used* the software yet, although I have tinkered, partly because of the limitations you describe and many other issues, the ULA being one, that isn't going to change so I will have to make a choice at some point.

     

    I too have been a Pagemaker user from the earliest days, currently In-Design. In some ways that is an impediment, because it leads us to assume the old ways are the only way.

     

    It seems that large institutions and publishers are on board with this project to republish established textbooks etc. in iBook format, so it seems this isn't a home-user only app, it's also being implemented in the publishing industry on a large scale.

     

     

    Quote:

    "If its not available, this program is useless."


    I don't think that is true, It will have many, many very satisfied users, despite not complying with our expectations.

     

    No doubt iBooks Author will evolve over time but I doubt if text flow will feature. Apple are simplifying the entire user experience, some might say over-simplification but that's the way it is.

  • Epochmaker Level 2 Level 2 (150 points)
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    Jan 23, 2012 3:31 AM (in response to deivis_alice)

    If pasting PDF images from ID is the only way of importing to iBA then that will give me a big problem because I am halfway though formatting the text of a manuscript which contains well over a thousand hotlinks, which may well fall apart during the import.

     

    I will have to give it a whirl and find out.

  • Epochmaker Level 2 Level 2 (150 points)
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    Jan 23, 2012 1:42 PM (in response to Gary i)

    OK Gary,  I opened the first template the botanic one. I opened my manuscript document in Preview selected all 200,000 words on 617 pages. Copied the text, clicked on the content of the iBooks SECOND page Selected the Lorium Ipsum text by double clicking, and command V pasted the text which immediatly 'flowed to the end, creating pages as it went, Took15 seconds? on a Mac mini i7 Server.

     

    Screen shot of the last 2 pages of the iBooks Author document but also showing the Preview document pages.

     

    Screen Shot 2012-01-23 at 21.25.04.jpg

     

    So you were right, it's you! [wink] No offence...

     

    I haven't got In Design on this machine yet so I can't try copy-paste of a formatted page from the current document to test if the formatting holds. I have a sneaking feeling it will.

     

    Thanks for asking the Q, it made me test it.

     

    Robert.

  • esagustin013 Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
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    Jan 23, 2012 7:42 PM (in response to Gary i)

    1. Create a new layout within your iBook Author project and give it a name. Your new layout will be blank. A fresh clean canvas.

     

    2a. Create a text box. By default it will center a 200pt (For this tutorial I set my rulers to 'Points') width text box...dead center on your layout. Drag this text box, resize it, do what you need to do.

     

    2_text_box.png

    2b. The key to allow this text box to spawn 'Add Linked Text Box' has to do with a little check mark and assigning the 'body' tag found in the inspector palette. With your box selected do the following: View the 'inspector' and follow the image below:

     

    1_inspector_layout.png

     

    2c. Now your Text Box has gained new abilities:

    3_text_box_edit.png

    3a. Click a blue arrow on either side and this will happen:

    textbox_drag.png

    3b. Rinse repeat for every 'link-text-box' you need and you end up with this linked text boxes:

     

     

    HINT: With your text box selected from step 2c: Format>Text Box>Insert Linked Text Box

    This will create a duplicated sized text box and link them together. Great for those X:Y challenged individuals.

     

    I would go into more detail but I exceeded my inline images allowed for a post.

     

    PS: The reason I am bolding LAYOUT is because too many users are getting confused with the verbage of Layout vs Page. Also iBooks Author should not be confused for a true dedicated layout program like inDesign or Quark. For you Graphic Artists out there...like myself...we must reset the way we think.

  • esagustin013 Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
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    Jan 23, 2012 7:56 PM (in response to esagustin013)

    Text Box Linking Fun:

     

    Click the arrow gets you this:

    iBooks Author.png

    Choosing from the format menu gets you this:

    linked_text_menu.png

    Once you have your layout set. You now apply this layout to a PAGE. Very backward and how I wish you could just do this directly on a PAGE and not have to create a LAYOUT just to create linked text boxes.

  • Gavin Duff Calculating status...
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    Jan 31, 2012 4:38 AM (in response to esagustin013)

    Creating individual linked text boxes is going a very long way around the houses rather than using master pages and this is the same in InDesign - define your layouts first, flow in the text and then you can tweak the pages layouts to your heart's content - you can make plenty of linked text boxes on the master pages to suit your preferred layout

     

    It is always best to seperate the layout from the content in this way so that you can reuse each layout as many times as you want - once you have on preferred layout, you can duplicate and alter as necessary

  • djhousito Calculating status...
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    Jan 31, 2012 1:48 PM (in response to Gary i)

    It could be my version or me :S

    In the spanish version of the iBooks Author, following the same instructions, i don't get the same options ...

     

    Proof:

     

    Captura de pantalla 2012-01-31 a la(s) 15.37.05.png

     

    Is there somehing else i'm missing?

     

    I think i'm missing the "create layout" step, what would be this menu item or how do i create one? Thanks in advance

  • Ruuxx Calculating status...
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    Feb 1, 2012 6:31 AM (in response to djhousito)

    Hola djhousito,

     

    Fíjate en la barra "libro" y arrastra el recuadro con dos rallitas para que te aparezca la plantilla, y así la puedas modificar: ( 1. Create a new layout within your iBook Author project and give it a name. Your newlayout will be blank. A fresh clean canvas).

     

    Acceder_a_plantilla.jpg

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  • roelinvienna Calculating status...
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    Feb 1, 2012 6:36 AM (in response to djhousito)

    I have the same problem in the Dutch version of Author

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